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vnx205
29th July 2010, 09:40 PM
I guess I am safe enough posting this in a forum that is probably ignored by the people who drive such things as Discoveries and Range Rovers.

I was just wondering if I am the only one who feels just a modicum of smugness every time a driver of one of those other vehicles has a gripe about a fault in some gadget on their vehicle that we Defender owners know is quite unnecessary in the first place?

Should I feel guilty about the fact that I have to resist the urge to post some biting comment in response every time one of them has a problem with their electric windows, their heated seats, their sat nav, their surround sound, their built in entertainment system, their parking sensors or their cup holders?

Blknight.aus
30th July 2010, 01:40 AM
Nope, wail on the whole lot of the smug decadent elitist bastards with their fancy gimmickry, electric wind up windows, heaters that work in the winter, floor mats. And cup holders, really dont get me started on cup holders, whats wrong with your hands? most of them have power steering and automatics that do the cogswappin for them you cant tell me that cup holders arent just there for sheer one upmanship value. "I could hold my starbucks coffee but Id rather show off pushing buttons and waving from inside my glass cocooned bubble of warm smarmy gittededness than do anything for myself...."


I tell ya, back in MY day..

Drover
30th July 2010, 07:28 AM
Go for it vnx205,

All of the electric BS is the whole reason that I ditch my D3, prob after prob.

With D'fer it is all good, 21,000k's not one warning light or warning chime or extra visit to the dealer or dash display "Suspension Failure - Transmission failure ......."

The writing was on the wall for the D3 after the Missus said one day "It just like a big car, isn't it, I could drive this all of the time"

Cheers

VladTepes
30th July 2010, 07:35 AM
vnx205 I see you have recent threads titled

"How to fit electric windows to a Defender?

"Heated seats would be handy this far south"

"Where can I get a self dimming mirror for my Series 3?"

"Anyone found after market cup holders that can acccomodate baby-cham glasses?"




LOL.

Lotz-A-Landies
30th July 2010, 07:43 AM
http://abll.info/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/019a8_smug-alert-south-park.jpg

Lightweight
30th July 2010, 07:50 AM
What I find even more Smug is the wry smile i have on my face AFTER i pull up next to a Disco driver at the lights.... I think.... If only his other half would have let him get the LR that he really wanted....

Scouse
30th July 2010, 08:03 AM
I feel quite smug when I see the countless repairs being done to current Defenders in the workshop while my Classic & P38 keep motoring on.
:p:p

Sly
30th July 2010, 08:14 AM
Some times Disco drivers do grow up and get a Defender !.;)

Lotz-A-Landies
30th July 2010, 08:16 AM
What I find even more Smug is the wry smile i have on my face AFTER i pull up next to a Disco driver at the lights.... <snip>http://www.southparkstudios.com/img/content/season10/1002.jpg

Blknight.aus
30th July 2010, 08:39 AM
(normally I direct this at toyota drivers but hey, I'll make an exception)

I feel smug when they complain about the cost of fuel, or if the fuel quality at part thus and so of the trip will be ok. or if they will be able to carry enough fuel to go thus far.


I feel smugger when I point out that it usually costs me less to fill my 300l worth of tanks than it does for them to fill their 60l aux tanks


I feel smuggest when after being greeted somewhere before Ive even gotten out of the car a bloke who frequents the place as often as I do asks how they know its me all the time and I get to point out that "its because my car is as distinctive and individual as I am, not just some common heartless thing"

Allan
30th July 2010, 09:00 AM
I feel smug when I tell my D3 owning son that my Defender needs a 3rd clutch in 20,000km and that it spends so much time at the dealers it may end up one of the lowest km vehicles in Australia.

Allan

tony66_au
30th July 2010, 09:11 AM
LMFAO!

Tsk tsk, is that a hint of Range Rover envy I see amongst you?

Let me see now............

The BEST Landy I ever sat in had (Wait for it!) a Range Rover Chassis and Drive line......................

Then again I dont consider anything with fuel injection to be a real 4WD anyway and dont get me started on bum warmers or electric anything.

As for cup holders?

Thats why Jenn comes with me on long trips!

1984 baybee! it all went pear shaped after that.


Tony

ugu80
30th July 2010, 02:46 PM
What I find even more Smug is the wry smile i have on my face AFTER i pull up next to a Disco driver at the lights.... I think.... If only his other half would have let him get the LR that he really wanted....

Exactly what happened to a mate of mine. He wanted a Defender, the missus wouldn't let him ("Its ugly"). Ended up with a Discovery (which I never let him forget) and he hates it.

PAT303
30th July 2010, 02:56 PM
Well I have both and my L322 has been vice free and probably done more travelling across Oz than most defenders so I feel smug either way.It still has a loooooooooooong way to go to match my old Tdi defender though. Pat

JBM770
30th July 2010, 03:15 PM
Exactly what happened to a mate of mine. He wanted a Defender, the missus wouldn't let him ("Its ugly"). Ended up with a Discovery (which I never let him forget) and he hates it.

What he said. Hopefully I wont hate it.

Shonky
30th July 2010, 03:34 PM
Series Owners - Does anyone else feel smug? (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-2-2a/110156-anyone-else-feel-smug.html#post1301431)

:angel:

one_iota
30th July 2010, 03:46 PM
Smug?

Hell no: I drive a Puma......

the entire thing is a gadget filled with Discovery and RR pretensions.

djam1
30th July 2010, 04:19 PM
Nope, wail on the whole lot of the smug decadent elitist bastards with their fancy gimmickry, electric wind up windows, heaters that work in the winter, floor mats. And cup holders, really dont get me started on cup holders, whats wrong with your hands? most of them have power steering and automatics that do the cogswappin for them you cant tell me that cup holders arent just there for sheer one upmanship value. "I could hold my starbucks coffee but Id rather show off pushing buttons and waving from inside my glass cocooned bubble of warm smarmy gittededness than do anything for myself...."


I tell ya, back in MY day..

What electric or wind up windows pfft wusses everyone knows that real Land Rovers have sliding windows

danske
30th July 2010, 04:47 PM
Having a RRC 92 Vogue SE , Disco 03 TD5 SE, and 08 SVX Puma , I have to say I feel smug that i can drive all three when I want or have the urge to drive something different. All three have given me headaches at some point , but honestly ,I can't seem to let go of any of them and will probably get the wife into a D4 at some point when her D2 is EOL. I'll be struggling to trade that in I reckon as I like it too. Of the three the Rangie still is the most comfortable , but the SVX is the most fun ! Disco is the most reliable at this point. Hard to decide , guess that's why i still have them. :)

dobbo
30th July 2010, 05:09 PM
I feel smug when I compare the driveline components of my County to the matchsticks fitted to post Isuzu 110's.

I felt smug when I dragged off a tdi Defer and beat it by a car length. This smugness was also felt by both drivers as we drag raced past a marked Police car and the officers were not aware of any speed related hooliganism. Just two dirty diesels driving by.

I feel smug when a post Isuzu 110 tops out on the freeway as I keep picking up speed, slowly but acceleration is still there.

I feel smug as I admire my galvanized body bits not fitted to post 86 110's.

But the main reason I feel smug driving my Isuzu is due to the exhaust sitting below the passenger side footwell and the heat does not travel over to the drivers side, and that my AC doesn't work, so whilst my passenger is very comfortable in winter, I have to rug up, jacket up, and don a beanie.

Benny_IIA
30th July 2010, 09:43 PM
I feel smug when I compare the driveline components of my County to the matchsticks fitted to post Isuzu 110's.

I felt smug when I dragged off a tdi Defer and beat it by a car length. This smugness was also felt by both drivers as we drag raced past a marked Police car and the officers were not aware of any speed related hooliganism. Just two dirty diesels driving by.

I feel smug when a post Isuzu 110 tops out on the freeway as I keep picking up speed, slowly but acceleration is still there.

I feel smug as I admire my galvanized body bits not fitted to post 86 110's.



You would not want to drive next to my td5 and see my chassis then [tonguewink]


But the main reason I feel smug driving my Isuzu is due to the exhaust sitting below the passenger side footwell and the heat does not travel over to the drivers side, and that my AC doesn't work, so whilst my passenger is very comfortable in winter, I have to rug up, jacket up, and don a beanie.


dfgdfgdfgdfg

Didge
31st July 2010, 12:11 AM
What electric or wind up windows pfft wusses everyone knows that real Land Rovers have sliding windows
yeah, mine slide up and down - hahahaaaaaaaaa - you guys make me laugh. We should have a campfire one day.

tazd
31st July 2010, 11:51 AM
but isnt the best when you drive onto some wet muddy grass and all the others are getting out to lock hubs in and you can just keep going :)

spudboy
31st July 2010, 12:45 PM
...With D'fer it is all good, 21,000k's not one warning light or warning chime or extra visit to the dealer or dash display "Suspension Failure - Transmission failure ......."


Do Defenders even have warning chimes? :p

Shonky
31st July 2010, 12:57 PM
yes - miniature wind chimes hanging from the rear view mirror which warn you that your vehicle is in motion. :p

Tombie
31st July 2010, 03:46 PM
I feel smug knowing I've had both :cool:

And that there is nothing about either vehicle I dislike or regret...

However, I will be smug even more when the 2012-ish Defender arrives and is in my driveway...

Until then, I'll remain smug that my Discovery is freehold :p

LandyAndy
31st July 2010, 10:01 PM
I guess I am safe enough posting this in a forum that is probably ignored by the people who drive such things as Discoveries and Range Rovers.

I was just wondering if I am the only one who feels just a modicum of smugness every time a driver of one of those other vehicles has a gripe about a fault in some gadget on their vehicle that we Defender owners know is quite unnecessary in the first place?

Should I feel guilty about the fact that I have to resist the urge to post some biting comment in response every time one of them has a problem with their electric windows, their heated seats, their sat nav, their surround sound, their built in entertainment system, their parking sensors or their cup holders?

I have just invested little money in one of these modern Series Landies.
Even had to remove one of the 2 cup holders so I could plug my Nannocom into its brains!!!!
Handeling,Turning Circle,Cabin Room,NOISE,Heater and Aircon:D:D:D:D:D:D LOVE MY D2
Actually,for the short time we have owned it,LOVE THE DEEFER TOO!!!
Andrew

abaddonxi
31st July 2010, 10:30 PM
<snip>

I feel smug as I admire my galvanized body bits not fitted to post 86 110's.

<snippety snip>


Showoff.

Which bits of your body did you get galvanised?


Couldn't you just get a tattoo, or some exotic piercing?



I'm all for keeping up with the Isuzu Joneses, but I'm going to need pics before I proceed with this caper.


Oh, and a detailed explanation of how galvanising my parts is going to improve my driving on wet muddy grass?

Quarks
1st August 2010, 07:33 AM
Apparently it stops your parts getting rusty after getting dirty. ;)

:D

tony66_au
1st August 2010, 01:46 PM
Apparently it stops your parts getting rusty after getting dirty. ;)

:D


I quite like it when my parts get dirty,

and considering they are always well soaked in oil they would never rust.

Shonky
2nd August 2010, 05:56 PM
Apparently it stops your parts getting rusty after getting dirty. ;)

:D

Excessive.

I just give my parts a good rub down and polish in between dirty weekends. :D

lardy
4th August 2010, 05:15 PM
having had a liking for the P38 diesel when it appeared in the old dart
I suffered a huge amount of smug pride when at lights in North Perth a p38 driver pulled up alongside the tanker and said now that's a real Landy ..too cool I thought :p