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bluerazor

30th July 2010, 06:02 AM

Hi everyone
Today i received an email from Mattia the Contact person
for Nanocom
Apparently the New Version is Out very soon with a lot of tricks up it's sleeve
IT will do all the same functions as the old one, BUT with a easy and more user friendly interface
By late September there will also be an update to cover the Ford engine plus other new applications.
The Very good news is that there will be a very low cost expansion card
to connect to the Evolution so that it will be possible to connect to analog
thermocouple sensors (PT100-PT1000) and different temperature /pressure sensors and be able to operate threshold outputs directly from the touch display.
My opinion it's worth waiting for
Regards
Vince

simonmelb

10th August 2010, 11:04 AM

The Very good news is that there will be a very low cost expansion card
to connect to the Evolution so that it will be possible to connect to analog
thermocouple sensors (PT100-PT1000) and different temperature /pressure sensors and be able to operate threshold outputs directly from the touch display.

Does this mean it will be able to work as an EGT guage with a warning alert?

fourteen8

16th August 2010, 11:30 AM

Anyone know how much are they? I checked the nanocom website and yes it is available

DougLD

2nd September 2010, 04:04 AM

Hi All
I received a email from Nanocom this morning and the new Nanocom is now available for what i can see for approximately $500 looks like a good buy. I would love one but as i have just bought one of the older ones i will have to make do with it.
Doug

one_iota

2nd September 2010, 06:59 AM

latest:

:: Nanocom :: (http://web.nanocom.it/default_i.cfm)

Fluids

2nd September 2010, 12:04 PM

It says on the site that the new evolution model will come will all the existing functionality of the current Nanocom 1, and will be VIN free for the Deefer & Disco II Td5 ... it the goes on to say ...

"
and soon there will be new modules:

DISCOII PETROL V8
DISCOII AUTOGEARBOX
DISCOII SRS
These 3 modules will be available also for the NANOCOM series I (COM and USB):

... available for existing Nanocom 1 units!!

YES! Auto gearbox ... hopefully, allowing adjustment of the torque converter lock-up speeds (lowering)

... holds breath ....

Kev..

simonmelb

2nd September 2010, 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=Fluids;1323231]
YES! Auto gearbox ... hopefully, allowing adjustment of the torque converter lock-up speeds (lowering)

Yes, as well as lowering the upshift speeds. A chipped TD5 could easily cope with much lower upshift speeds, esp around town when it's just loping along. I drove a brand new Prado 4Cyl diesel in NZ a few weeks ago. The transmission shifted up at much lower road and engine speeds, reducing cabin noice and I assume improving economy a bit.

Being able to tweak the D2 ZF box shift & lock up points would be cool, but not sure what's possible ?

LOVEMYRANGIE

2nd September 2010, 09:51 PM

Just checked my email and there it was too

:twobeers::arms::misclock::burnrubber::banana::ehi gh5::thumbsup::TakeABow:

crash

3rd September 2010, 10:29 AM

Got an update from Mattia today - Officially on sale now for $273 euro or approx $390 australian.
Now just need to check the finance before ordering one.
Has anyone bought directly from Mattia before? If so what is he like to deal with?

LOVEMYRANGIE

3rd September 2010, 10:37 PM

its half of what I expected price wise!

Bet theres going to be a few Nano 1's appearing in the Markets section! :p

Cheers

Andrew

Fluids

4th September 2010, 08:32 AM

Being able to tweak the D2 ZF box shift & lock up points would be cool, but not sure what's possible ?

Check the Ashcroft Transmissions web site, and look at the Compushift ... that should give you an idea of what is possible.

Kev..

peter5111

7th September 2010, 09:42 AM

Ordered my Evolution today.

309 Euro delivered.

Now to hurry up and wait..

999

7th September 2010, 06:52 PM

Ordered my Evolution today.

309 Euro delivered.

Now to hurry up and wait..

Where did you order it from? Direct from Mattia?

I'm in correspondence ATM with him.

peter5111

7th September 2010, 07:07 PM

Where did you order it from? Direct from Mattia?

I'm in correspondence ATM with him.

Yep.

I expressed an interest a few months ago.

Once a release date was announced I just asked for a shipping quote and went from there.

I don't know if anybody is going to take up as a distributor in AUS? I certainly don't have the time or capital to do it, but I hope somebody does.

Pete

ssk

7th September 2010, 08:00 PM

I have just ordered my nanocom evo now and paid via paypal direct to Mattia.. Will keep you informed as to when it is delivered...Can't wait to get my hands on it...:p

999

7th September 2010, 08:04 PM

How did you pay via paypal did you get a money request or just pay straight in to the account?

ssk

7th September 2010, 08:19 PM

I registered with paypal and set up a credit card account.. Then it is a simple matter of entering Mattia's email address (info@nanocom.it)
as the payee and its done.. Paypal recognises the business "ELECTROBYTE"
from the email address and sends the payment with a confirmatory email...All very secure and safe.

dmdigital

11th September 2010, 05:07 PM

Just got an e-mail of Mattia, the Evolution still doesn't work with the Puma engine yet but is to be added soon :(

one_iota

11th September 2010, 05:43 PM

It seems that the Puma owners wait in hope :(

999

11th September 2010, 09:08 PM

Well I've just ordered the Evo along with the SD card.:)

discodancer

11th September 2010, 10:02 PM

999

11th September 2010, 11:40 PM

I realise that Mattia will be busy with the forthcoming distribution date on 13/9....but I sent him an order by email last Tuesday...using his link orders@nanocom.it and then a copy on Thursday to his info@nanocom.it ..again using the direct link from his website.

No response/acknowledgement to date!

Any idea please, as to how long it has taken others to place an order?/receive reply?

I don't want to hassle him..but it leaves me wondering whether my emails are hovering in the ether somewhere?

Cheers
Bob

I asked for a PayPal payment request to be emailed to me last Tues and it arrived in my inbox on Sat. Overall its taken 10 days from initial communication to until I made a payment.
Now all I have to do is wait for delivery. Should give me enough time to form a convincing reason to tell my partner why I needed to buy a new tool.:eek:

999

15th September 2010, 06:53 PM

Should have my nanocom evo soon just got an email from TNT with a consignment number.:D

peter5111

15th September 2010, 07:56 PM

Me too, although the tracking number is wonky

Xtreme

15th September 2010, 08:10 PM

I'm interested to hear how these new Evo units perform.

peter5111

15th September 2010, 09:05 PM

Well I have the three amigo's, a weird fuel gauge problem, window,alarm and doorlock behavior I want to change so mine is up for a busy few days as soon as it gets here.. :) Will report once I have something constructive.

I have not seen / used the old nanocom so I have nothing to compare against though.

LOVEMYRANGIE

16th September 2010, 09:49 PM

Pretty keen to order one. Might wait for the initial rush to pass...

ingy

17th September 2010, 04:15 AM

My new evolution was waiting for me when i arrived home tonight.. Ripped it open and read the one page of instructions. I had to plug it into the car to get the unit ID so I could register it on the nanocom site. Recieved an instant reply email with my username and password, so logged on to get my unlock codes. You can imagine how excited I was, but no codes!!!!

Have emailed asking for help, but not expecting a reply for a few days.

I have to say though that it is very neat, the menus are clear, and the touch screen seems to work well.

Will post again when I have it working.

peter5111

17th September 2010, 08:15 AM

Me too, although the tracking number is wonky

According to TNT, mine is on the move finally :)

ssk

18th September 2010, 09:50 PM

So too is mine!!! In transit from Heathrow... Can't wait to get my hands on it... Order placed on 7 September.. Dispatched from Italy on 15 september.. Will let you know when I receive it... Another Nanocom for the register..Hey!!

peter5111

20th September 2010, 03:44 PM

Evo arrived today. 10 minutes from sending the registration email to having unlock codes and clearing ABS faults. Sweet.

Now I KNOW which wheel sensor is being stupid and why I am down on power.

The Body Computer software module is still under development by the looks of it, but there is supposed to be updated firmware comming out on Thursday. Upgrading is a matter of connecting a USB cable and copying the new files to the Evo. Simple as.

Only minor problem is clearance for the USB connector. The hole in the case is a little small, but easily fixed with a file and a phillips screwdriver. I have emailed Matia about it already.

More info to follow once I have the Body Computer firmware. Happy to answer any questions on functionality for anybody thinking of buying one. I am in Northern Adelaide suburbs if anybody wants a peek at one.

999

20th September 2010, 06:23 PM

Still waiting on mine its been at the depot in melb since 5:30 am. I thought I'd get it today, Hopefully it will be tomorrow.

biggin

21st September 2010, 02:15 PM

999

21st September 2010, 06:28 PM

Can anyone do a OBD port test on there evo I'm getting an error on line 5.:eek:

you can find the test under NANOCOM>SETUP>OBD PORT TEST

peter5111

21st September 2010, 08:03 PM

Can anyone do a OBD port test on there evo I'm getting an error on line 5.:eek:

you can find the test under NANOCOM>SETUP>OBD PORT TEST

Mine is the same. Maybe flick Mattia an email ?

Communications seem to work. I wish there was a decent developers reference manual...

999

21st September 2010, 09:16 PM

Mine is the same. Maybe flick Mattia an email ?

Communications seem to work. I wish there was a decent developers reference manual...

Thanks maybe it's normal. I sent a question from there website regarding #5 line.

Have you created a restore file yet? Was the first thing I did, just in-case.

Here's a few photos of the unit.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/09/624.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/09/625.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/09/626.jpg

The last image is a shot of the EVO backing up the TD5 ECU MAP to a sd card.

Sorry about the picture quality but hey its a phone.

peter5111

21st September 2010, 09:48 PM

Restore files were priority 1. Last thing I need to do is brick it.

I also made a raw backup of the complete file system. Did you have any issues with USB connector clearance ?

Can't believe how slow the file transfer was though. It is like the SD card is hanging off the end of a 56k modem.

First few items on my wish list is to be able to configure the Instrument display to show the half dozen readings I happen to care about and not the ones Mattia thinks are important. Having to flick between screens is a bit annoying.

Next on the wish list is logging of fuel flow. Integrated with time / distance etc gives a trip computer with pretty good accuracy. I used it al the time when I had the ScanGaugeII.

And finally (on the preliminary list anyway ;) ) is info on the external connector and some way to stream data too / from the connector

999

21st September 2010, 11:24 PM

I got a reply from Mattia about the OBD port tests (talk about a fast response)

Hi,
The OBD port test has the pourpose to test the unit without the car. it send 10 bytes to the line OBD and it check if they get back. the OBD K lines are 1 wire so data sent can be also read. It is normal that the line 5 get error because this is a 2 wire line so to test it you have to short circuit 2 wire (the 11 and the 12)to allow the data sent to loop back.It is used in the air suspension of the P38.For discovery and Defender the line used are the 7 and the 8.

Regards
Mattia
So no need to worry:D

mildred

22nd September 2010, 11:34 AM

peter5111

22nd September 2010, 01:21 PM

This is all very interesting and I now wonder if a small laptop computer can be connected up to, or via the unit to facilitate using a larger screen than that of the nanocom itself? :)

As far as I can tell, not easily. But I have not had a close look at the layout yet. The USB connector gives direct access to the file system on ( I think) a watchdog processor that holds the .hex files for all the other micro's. So firmware upgrades a a cinch.

There does not appear to be an easy way to talk directly to the micro that handles the display and touch screen.

LOVEMYRANGIE

22nd September 2010, 02:35 PM

Have you downloaded the PC software from the website???
Should connect the same as the Nanocom 1 and give the same results....

ssk

22nd September 2010, 10:36 PM

Nanocom Evo arrived on Monday 20 September.... Hoping to have a play Thursday and do all the registering and backups!!! How do I add my location to the Nanocom owners register ?

peter5111

23rd September 2010, 09:20 AM

Have you downloaded the PC software from the website???
Should connect the same as the Nanocom 1 and give the same results....

I had a 15 second look at the PC software (In the middle of exam study)

It looks like the PC software requires a serial port to talk to the Nanocom, which the Evo does not have.

Unless there is a trick to making it talk over USB?

Also, the Evo appears as a flash drive natively when connected to a host so I suspect it isn't going to be quite so easy. Nor is there any mention of connecting the Evo to PC software on the Nanocom website.

I will be ecstatic if I am wrong though. Being able to use the netbook display would be great in the car.

I will have a closer look this weekend once I have some free head space.

Pete

mildred

23rd September 2010, 05:16 PM

I had a 15 second look at the PC software (In the middle of exam study)

It looks like the PC software requires a serial port to talk to the Nanocom, which the Evo does not have.

Unless there is a trick to making it talk over USB?

Also, the Evo appears as a flash drive natively when connected to a host so I suspect it isn't going to be quite so easy. Nor is there any mention of connecting the Evo to PC software on the Nanocom website.

I will be ecstatic if I am wrong though. Being able to use the netbook display would be great in the car.

I will have a closer look this weekend once I have some free head space.

Pete

have you tried to contact the vendor?
an email will probably answer all your question and no guess work at all!
If I eventually buy a nanocom their email will be glowing hot with any questions that I need to ask
Just do it and wait for replys and of course let us know the results :D

LOVEMYRANGIE

23rd September 2010, 11:55 PM

I hae just emailed Mattia on the above plus queried when the manual will be out.
Will post his reply when it comes.

Regards

Andrew.

PaulP38a

27th September 2010, 10:23 PM

I don't know if anybody is going to take up as a distributor in AUS? I certainly don't have the time or capital to do it, but I hope somebody does.

If there is enough interest from Defender and Disco owners, I'm happy to have a serious chat with Mattia about Hard Range becoming an Australian distributor for Nanocom, especially now that he is introducing support for P38 Rangies as well.

It would potentially give some good balance to the other diagnostics stuff we do.

We'd need to get enough of a discount from him so we can sell it at a competitive price to getting from Italy, but with the advantage of 1-2 days delivery to most of Australia. That is the same principle I work on for FaultMates, EAS Buddy's and ABS Amigo's.

So, if there are half a dozen folks who are keen to go, I'll make the call and see if we can get some local stuff happening. Drop me a PM or send me a message through http://hardrange.com (http://hardrange.com/)

Cheers, Paul.

FenianEel

28th September 2010, 07:22 PM

have you tried to contact the vendor?
an email will probably answer all your question and no guess work at all!
If I eventually buy a nanocom their email will be glowing hot with any questions that I need to ask
Just do it and wait for replys and of course let us know the results :D

I hae just emailed Mattia on the above plus queried when the manual will be out.
Will post his reply when it comes.

Regards

Andrew.

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

Good Luck with that......
Sent several emails, even order requests, never ever hear back, which is a common occurence apparently.
I dunno how you other buggers got a reply or an Evo.
Just bought the 'old' Nanacom and will make do with that. ;)

pohm66

29th September 2010, 10:37 AM

I emailed Mattia about whether or not the new Evo will allow us to alter the boost cut-out control at the ECU for D2s and it was 8 days later I got a reply.....

Oh and for the record the boost control cann't be altered. 8-(

dustnmud

29th September 2010, 12:59 PM

LOVEMYRANGIE

29th September 2010, 01:35 PM

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

Good Luck with that......
Sent several emails, even order requests, never ever hear back, which is a common occurence apparently.
I dunno how you other buggers got a reply or an Evo.
Just bought the 'old' Nanacom and will make do with that. ;)

Im an optimist!

peter5111

29th September 2010, 05:51 PM

Hi all,
Ordered the nanocom evo on the 17th, it arrived on the 27th.Went to register it and as usual my failure to read the instructions properly meant that I was unable to enter the machines ID.Due to the good wife being away with the D2 I then found a power source of the right specs to recover the ID only to be told FIRMWARE DISK not found ,No restore file found,Reboot system, Now I am severely limited in my understanding of things electronic but I if it was referring to the 2GB flat card then it was inserted in the top of the unit. If anyone can tell me what this means and how to "reboot" this system I would be most grateful although I will probably have to email Italy.

Hmm, sounds like an issue with the device firmware.

What happens if you try to boot the device without the memory card fitted? If you have the same symptoms, the please do the following :

Remove the memory card
do NOT connect a power supply
Connect just the USB cable to your PC.

If the device comes up as a removable drive then I can help you out with the current firmware here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9735122/Firmware%20v1.0.zip).

The loose files need to end up in the root directory of the Nanocom. (NOT on the SD card. Make sure you leave the SD card out of the Nanocom until we get everything up and running)

If that does not work then probably a return to Italy :(

Pete

dustnmud

29th September 2010, 07:51 PM

Thanks for your reply Peter and the recommendations you made which I have tried but to no avail.
The screen still says Kernel firmware Rev 1.00
Graphic Controller Firmware Rev1.1
Error:NC_FIRMWARE DISK not found!!!
I think that some of the younger generation(when they finish laughing) will have to take over from here.
Thanks again for your help.
Regards Bob.

peter5111

29th September 2010, 09:28 PM

G'day Bob,

What happened when you plugged in just the USB cable ? I assume you are using a reasonably current version of Windows ?

Did you manage to copy the firmware onto the Nano ?

I expect there will be some computer savvy AULRO-ians close to you but if not, I am happy to have a look. PM me if needed.

mirror11726

30th September 2010, 09:39 PM

Well my Evolution turned up yesterday, pretty quick delivery time, and I had no issues with communication or payment.

So I went out for a play tonight and cleared my three amigo faults, it registered 23 intermittent faults. I was tinkering around with the suspension type or transport mode, and now the D2 is sitting on her bum with a self-leveling suspension warning light.

:wasntme:

When I drive it pumps up, but the light remains, and dumps the pressure when I shut it down. No fault is logged, and this is the SLABS setting data output:

param;value
Test Status;ENABLED
Transport Mode;ENABLED
ECU Calibrated;YES Suspension Type;
AIR Left Stored Height;
091 Right Stored Height;106

I've tried changing the Transport mode and Suspension type mode, but it hasn't changed. Any ideas on how to clear or reset this fault? :confused:

Cheers,

Pete
Largs North, SA

ssk

30th September 2010, 09:56 PM

dustnmud Hi... Sent you an email ...

The firmware version on the nanocom restricted site is for the older unit.. Information in the quick reference guide (download from Nanocom Evolution area) outlines a procedure to create a restore file from which it can restore the NC_FIRMWARE, in case of file system corruption..

[URL="http://web.nanocom.it/download/NANOCOME%20VOLUTION%20QUICK%20REFERENCE%20R1.0.pdf"]

Very important to create that restore file before exploring the potential of the new unit... Keep a copy on pc as a backup...
Will post some pics of the unit in action... soon..

ingy

1st October 2010, 06:01 AM

Hi mirror11726 (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/mirror11726.html)

I had exactly the same with my new Evo. After a few days I found the answer.

With the ignition on
1. Go to DiscoveryII
2. SLABS
3. Scroll to page 2 and Go to Utility
4. SLS HEIGHT CALIBRATION
5. Raise left and right to the desired height.
6. DO NOT STORE HEIGHTS
7. Click the X 3 times
8. SLABS
9. SETTING
10 Scroll to next page
11. Check left and right stored heights are similar and WRITE SETTINGS
12. turn ignition off as it instructs.
13. Do not touch anything for 60 seconds as it says.
14. click OK

Hopefully switch engine on - no fault light - car stays up.

Ingy

mirror11726

1st October 2010, 06:02 AM

Well I cleared my ABS fault, the ride height needed to be between 150 and 180. Got the car to the correct height and saved the settings. All good.

Lesson learned: don't press buttons to see what happens :angel:

Pete.

scott oz

1st October 2010, 07:47 AM

I'm thinking of buying the new nanacom.

The site talks about a future "expansion board" allowing sensors.

Is this a hardware modification to the "Evolution" that you need to open it up and just “plug in” a component? Or is this some serious modifications?

If I do buy one, my old nanacom (never used) will be for sale

wsp

1st October 2010, 10:28 AM

dustnmud

1st October 2010, 06:13 PM

Hi once more,
All is good now. I mailed Mattia and He was back within the hour with the suggested fix and the offer of a replacement if it didn't work out. It did, and I've been busy for the last couple of hours finding out what it can do.
Probably wont post much for a while, guess you'll know why.
Thanks for all suggestions and interest
Regards Bob

peter5111

1st October 2010, 06:54 PM

What was the fix ?

dustnmud

1st October 2010, 07:31 PM

Don't ask me!
Seriously with the instructions Mattia sent and a 40 year younger brain than mine it was a good combination.
I may be able to post the instructions ifyou like.

LOVEMYRANGIE

1st October 2010, 09:57 PM

So wheres all the pics of them???????

Plug them in, take some pics of the different screens and post godammit!!!!!!!

You all know the rules, "it never happened without pics...."

peter5111

2nd October 2010, 10:03 AM

What do you want pic's of?

The menu structure is pretty involved and really not worth taking hundreds of pictures of.

This is how the Nano sits bets (for me) in the console. Showing one page of the real time engine instruments. I don't think there is any option to change which instruments are available on which page.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9735122/IMAG0004.jpg

The display is small for the size of the box and is lacking in contrast / brightness. It isn't awful, but there is always room for improvement.

The brightness can be changed in software but there is no way to wire it up to the dash lighting to dim the display automatically when the headlights are on.

I am not a fan of the 15 pin D shell connector comming straight out from the side of the Nano. It makes it impossible to mount neatly.

LOVEMYRANGIE

6th October 2010, 09:35 AM

Few of the different real time data screens, any of the special function screens etc to give people an idea of what its like. As there is no graphic manual and nothing on the website, it helps to show potential buyers what they get.

I really would have thought the DB9 connector would have been removed and the cable terminated properly inside too. Queried this with Mattia when he first released pics on the website... Looks very low budget, lack of detail etc but when you look at a Nano1........ Well........

peter5111

6th October 2010, 03:24 PM

The live instrument windows have the following displays;

*RPM, Coolant Temp, Manifold Pressure, Battery Voltage
or
*Ambient air pressure, Airflow, Air inlet temp, Fuel temp
or
*Cylinder balance
or
*Accelerator Supply voltage,Accel position 1/2/3
or
*Road Speed,Idle speed error, EGR Duty Cycle, EGR inlet, Wastegate modulator duty cycle

peter5111

6th October 2010, 04:20 PM

Main menu structure for the Defender. I will do the Disco and Nanocom structures shortly.

This is why I didn't want to post photo's....

Defender TD5
++TD5 Engine
+Faults
-Clear faults
-Save text to SD card
+Setting
+Input Switch
*
-Brake switch 1
-Brake switch 2
-Clutch switch
-Transfer ratio
-Gearbox
-Cruise control
*
-Cruise resume
-Set Accelerate
-AC clutch request
-AC clutch drive
-AC fan request
-AC fan drive
+Input Fueling
*
-Engine speed (RPM)
-Idle speed error (rpm)
-Road speed (kp/h)
-Battery (V)
*
-Accel Way 1(V)
-Accel Way 2(V)
-Accel Way 3(V)
-Accel Supply (V)
*
-Coolant temp (C)
-Fuel temp (C)
-Inlet air temp (C)
-Air Flow (gr/hr)
*
-Ambient pressure (kpa)
-Manifold Turbo Pressure (kpa)
-EGR Modulator (%)
-EGR Inlet (%)
-Wastegate modulator (%)
*Cylinder Balances
-Cylinder 1,2,3,4,5
+Output
-Test AC clutch
-Test AC fan
-Test MIL lamp
-Test fuel pump
-Test glow plugs
-Pulse rev counter
-Turbo waste gate mod
-Temperature gauge
-EGR inlet Modulator
-Injector 1/2/3/4/5
+Utility
-Learn security code
-Get security status
+TD5 Map
-Read Map from ECU
-Write Map to ECU
-Write tuning to ECU
+AS10 Security System
+Event
-Clear event
-Save text to SD card
+Setting
+Setting group 1
*
-Time error
-Comms
-Interior light
-Welcome light
*
-Arm/Disarm flash
-Arm/disarm confirm
-Arm on lock
-Resync on arm
*
-Relock
-Mislock
-Mislock noise
-Resync on lock
*
-Plip immobilize
-Plip Relock
-Key immobilize
-Passive immobilize
+Setting group 2
*
-Key Disarm
-CDL When ARM
-Flash on alarm
-Alarm sound
*
-Time sync
-Low battery error
-Battery error
-Tamper warn
*
-Cat overheat
-MEMS Failure indic
-Immobilizer
-Vehicle
+Alarm coding data
*
-Year
-Week
-Serial number
*
-Plip Easy resync
-Plip for resync
-Bad plip Allowance
-Plip for low battery
*
-Plip 1 [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
-Plip 2 [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
-Plip 3 [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
-Plip 4 [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
*
-EKA Code
-EDC Code
-EGR-DDS Code
-GEMS Code
-TD5-MEMS Code
*
-Plip Learnt
-Volumetric sens. g.
-CAT Threshold

+Write settings
+Open file
+Save file
+Set Country

+Input
*
-Driver sill
-Passenger sill
-Driver door
-Passenger door
-Door key
-Ignitoin stage 2
*
-Bonnet
-Factory mode
-TD5 Learnt
-MIL light
-MIL status
*
-Spider 1
-Spider 2
-Spider 3
-Crank output
-Interior light
*
-Plip 1
-Plip 2
-Plip 3
-Plip 4
*
-Volumetric sensor 1
-Volumetric sensor 2
-Catalyst input 1
-Catalyst input 2
+Output
*
-Lock door on/off
-Unlock door on/off
-Sounder on/off
-Alarm LED on/off
*
-Immobilizer light on/off
-Hazard light on/off
-Interior light on/off
+Utility
-Plip learn
-RF test
-Set default data
-Clear factory mode
-Set to immobilize
+WABCO ABS
+Faults
-Clear faults
-Save text to SD card
+Input
*Sens (V)
-Front right
-Front left
-Rear right
-Rear left
*Wheel speed (kph)
-Front right
-Front left
-Rear right
-Rear left
*Inlet valve (V)
-Front right
-Front left
-Rear right
-Rear left
*Outlet Valve (V)
-Front right
-Front left
-Rear right
-Rear left
*
-Engine speed (rpm)
-Engine Torque (N/m)
-Throttle position (%)
-Ground reference (V)
-Brake relay (V)
-Pump relay (V)
*
-Pump monitor (V)
-Ignition supply (V)
-Valve supply (V)
-Shuttle switch (V)
+Output
*
-Front Right inlet valve on/off
-Front right outlet valve on/off
-Front left inlet valve on/off
-Front left outlet valve on/off
*
-Rear right inlet valve on/off
-Rear right outlet valve on/off
-Rear left inlet valve on/off
-Rear left outlet valve on/off
*
-Pump relay on/off
-Valve relay on/off
-Brake warning LED on/off
-HDC warning LED on/off
*
-T.C lamp on/off
-Speedo on/off
-HDC info LED on/off
-HDC fault LED on/off
+Utility
-Power Bleed
-Modulator BLeed
-Front right test
-Front left test
-Rear right test
-Rear left test

peter5111

6th October 2010, 05:21 PM

Discovery II

+TD5 Engine
++ Faults
+++ Clear Faults
+++ Save text to SD card

++ Setting
+++ Injectors - THrottle
++++ Injector 1 [*****]
++++ Injector 2 [*****]
++++ Injector 3 [*****]
++++ Injector 4 [*****]
++++ Injector 5 [*****]

++++ Accellerator Type
++++ Write settings

+++ Info
++++ Config Tune ID
++++ Fuel Tune ID
++++ ECU part number
++++ Homologation

++++ Temperature gauge
++++ Tachometer
++++ SLABS
++++ Road Speed
++++ Radiator Fan
++++ MIL Lamp

++++ Fuel used
++++ Fuel Temperature
++++ EGR Modulator
++++ EGR Inlet
++++ Cruise Lamp
++++ Cruise Control

++++ Clutch switch
++++ CAN Bus
++++ Auxilliary fan
++++ Auto gearbox
++++ Air Conditioning
++++ Active engine mount

++++ Ambient sensor
++++ Wastegate modulator
++++ ECU status

+ Input Switch
++ Brake Switch 1
++ Brake Switch 2
++ Clutch Switch
++ Transfer Ratio
++ Gearbox
++ Cruise control

++ Cruise resume
++ Set Accelerate
++ AC Clutch request
++ AC clutch drive
++ AC fan request
++ AC Fan drive

+ Input Fuelling
++ Engine speed (RPM)
++ Idle speed error (RPM)
++ Road Speed (kph)
++ Battery (V)

++ Accel Way 1 (V)
++ Accel Way 2 (V)
++ Accel Way 3 (V)
++ Accel Supply (V)

++ Coolant Temp (C)
++ Fuel Temp (C)
++ Air inlet Temp (C)
++ Air Flow (gr/hr)

++ Ambient pressure (kpa)
++ Manifold turbo pressure (kpa)
++ EGR Modulator (%)
++ EGR Inlet (%)
++ Wastegate Modulator (%)

++ Cylinder Balances
++ Cylinder 1/2/3/4/5

+ Output
++ Test AC clutch
++ Test AC fan
++ Test MIL lamp
++ Test fuel pump
++ Test glow plugs

++ Pulse rev counter
++ Turbo wastegate mod.
++ Temperature gauge
++ EGR inlet modulator
++ Injector 1/2/3/4/5

+ Utility
++ Learn Security Code
++ Get Security Status

TD5 Map
+ Read map from ECU
+ Write map to ECU
+ Write tuning to ECU+
SLABS
+ Faults
++ Clear Faults
++ Save text to SD card

+ Settings
++ Test Status
++ ECU Calibrated
++ Transport mode
++ Suspension Type

++ Left stored height
++ right stored height
++ Write settings
++ Save file
++ Open file

+ Input
++ Input ABS
+++ Sense (V)
++++ Front Right
++++ Front Left
++++ Rear Right
++++ Rear Left

+++ Wheel Speed (kph)
++++ Front Right
++++ Front Left
++++ Rear Right
++++ Rear Left

+++ Inlet Valve (V)
++++ Front Right
++++ Front Left
++++ Rear Right
++++ Rear Left

+++ Outlet Valve (V)
++++ Front Right
++++ Front Left
++++ Rear Right
++++ Rear Left

+++ Pump Monitor (V)
+++ Pump Relay (V)
+++ Battery (V)
+++ ECU Internal Supply (V)
+++ Ground Reference (V)

+++ Engine speed (RPM)
+++ Engine Torque (n/m)
+++ Throttle position (%)
+++ HDC Brake (V)
+++ Shuttle switch

++ Input SLS
+++ Left Sensor Value
+++ Right sensor value
+++ Left sensor supply (V)
+++ Right ensor supply (V)

+++ Left Valve (V)
+++ Right valve (V)
+++ Exhaust valve (V)
+++ Compressor relay (V)

++ Input switch
+++ Neutral switch
+++ Low range switch
+++ Diff lock switch
+++ Reverse switch

+++ HDC switch
+++ Any Door Switch
+++ Plip signal

+ Output
++ Front right inlet valve on/off
++ Front right outlet valve on/off
++ Front left inlet valve on/off
++ Front left outlet valve on/off

++ Rear right inlet valve on/off
++ Rear right outlet valve on/off
++ Rear left inlet valve on/off
++ Rear left outlet valve on/off

++ SLS Left valve on/off
++ SLS right valve on/off
++ SLS exhaust valve on/off
++ ABS pump relay

++ Speedometer on/off
++ SLS compressor on/off
++ SLS buzzer on/off
++ TC lamp on/off

++ ABS warning lamp on/off
++ HDC warning lamp on/off
++ Brake warning lamp on/off

++ SLS Lamp on/off
++ Offroad lamp on/off
++ HDC fault lamp on/off
++ HDC brake lamp on/off

+ Utility
++ ABS Bleeding Test
+++ Power bleed
+++ Modulator bleed
+++ Front right test
+++ Front left test
+++ Rear right test
+++ Rear left test

++ SLS Height Calibration
+++ Raise Left
+++ Raise right
+++ Lower Left
+++ Lower right
+++ Store Heights

VALEO BCU
+ Read inputs
++ Body 1
+++ Lights
++++ Side lights
++++ Main beam
++++ Dipped
++++ Front fog light
++++ rear fog light

++++ Left indicator
++++ Right indicator
++++ Hazard
++++ Daytime run lights
+++ Doors
++++ Passenger door switch
++++ Driver door switch
++++ Bonnet
++++ Key lock
++++ Key unlock

+++ CDL Lock
+++ CDL unlock
+++ Inertia
+++ Ignition key inserted
+++ Transfer box neutral
+++ Park/Neutral

++ Body 2
+++ Transmission
++++ Reverse idle
++++ Transfer Neutral switch
++++ Autobox W switch
++++ Autobox X switch
++++ Autobox Y switch

++++ Autobox Z switch
++++ park neutral switch

+++ Windows
++++ Front left down
++++ Front left up
++++ Front right down
++++ front right up

+++ Wash / Wipe
++++ Front intermittent
++++ Front wash
++++ Front wiper parked
++++ Front wiper speed

++++ Rear wiper
++++ Rear wash

+++ Heated Windscreen
++++ Heated windscreen switch
++++ Ignition 2
++++ Engine speed signal

++ Instrument
+++ LH DI
+++ RH DI
+++ LH Tailor DI
+++ RH Tailor DI
+++ Seat Belt
+++ Diff lock

+++ Transfer neutral
+++ Autobox manual
+++ Autobox sport
+++ Offroad level
+++ ABS
+++ Traction COntrol

+++ SRS
+++ HDC select
+++ Glow plug
+++ Brake
+++ Oil pressure
+++ Altenator

+++ Check Engine
+++ Fuel filter
+++ Transmission temp
+++ Check ACE
+++ Checl HDC
+++ Check SLS

+++ Instr mileage (km)
+++ BCU mileage (km)
+++ IP trip switch

++ Power Distribution
+++ BCU ignition pos 1
+++ BCU ignition pos 2
+++ BCU ignition pos 3
+++ IP ignition pos 2
+++ IDM ignition pos 2
+++ IDM battery (V)

+++ BCU switch power
+++ BCU relay power

+ Settings
++ Light Windows-Seats
+++ Front fog lamp
+++ Daytime run lights
+++ Courtesy head lamps
+++ Headlamp power wash fitted

+++ Electric front window
+++ rear window sunroof
+++ Heated front windscreen
+++ Electric front seats

+++ Programmed wash wipe
+++ seatbelt warning
+++ seatbelt warning sound

++ Transm-lock-warn
+++ Transmission
+++ Shift interlock
+++ HDC

+++ Superlock
+++ Unlock option
+++ Speedlock option

+++ Mislock option
+++ Bathrobe lock option

+++ Odometer error warn
+++ Key warning
+++ Low battery warning

++ Instrument pack
+++ Transmission
+++ Engine
+++ ACE
+++ SLS

+++ Gulf
+++ Police
+++ HDC
+++ TRC

++ Alarm-other
+++ Alarm
+++ Alarm option
+++ Alarm disarm
+++ Alarm sounder

+++ Alarm tamper
+++ Engine Immobil
+++ Passive immobil
+++ Inertia switch

+++ Hazard option
+++ Volumetric sensor
+++ Market
+++ EKA option

+++ Cruise control
+++ Air COnditioning
+++ Fuel burning heater

+++ Passive coil
+++ transit mode

++ Write settings
++ Save file
++ open file

+ Output Body
++ Lights
+++ Front fog lights on/off
+++ Rear fog lights on/off
+++ Daytime running lights on/off
+++ LH indicator enable on/off
+++ RH indicator enable on/off

++ Window
+++ Front left window up on/off
+++ Front left window down on/off
+++ Front right window up on/off
+++ Front right window down on/off

+++ Rear window enable on/off
+++ Sunroof enable on/off

++ Wash wipe
+++ Front wiper enable on/off
+++ tail wiper enable on/off
+++ Headlamp power wash on/off

++ Heated windscreen
+++ Heated windscreen enable/disable
+++ Heated rear screen lamp on/off

++ Check Engine
+++ Check engine lamp on/off

+ Output Security
++ Security
+++ Horn on/off
+++ BBUS ALL on/off
+++ BBUS ST on/off
+++ Fuel flap on/off
+++ Alarm led on/off

+++ Ignition interlock on/off
+++ Crank enable on/off
+++ Volumetric power on/off
+++ Robust immob on/off
+++ Transponder power on/off

++ Locking
+++ Lock on/off
+++ Unlock on/off
+++ Superlock on/off
+++ Single point entry on/off

+ Key Programming
++ Key Code 1 [*****] set
++ Key Code 2 [*****] set
++ Key Code 3 [*****] set
++ Key Code 4 [*****] set
++ Update

++ Key1 Sync
++ Key2 Sync
++ Key3 Sync
++ Key4 Sync
++ Key Detect

++ Suspension Plip
++ Set Code 1
++ Set Code 2
++ Update
++ Rolling Code

+ Utility
++ Reset the New flag
++ RF test
++ Sync Odometer to BCU
++ Sync BCU to Odometer

++ [ ][ ][ ][ ]
++ Read
++ Set

ACE
+ Faults
++ Clear Faoults
++ Save text to SD card

+ Input
++ Engine Speed (RPM)
++ Road SPeed (kph)
++ Battery Voltage (V)
++ DCV1 Current (AMPS)
++ DCV2 Current (AMPS)
++ PCV Current (AMPS)

++ Pressure sensor (bar)
++ Residual pressure (bar)
++ System pressure (bar)
++ Upper lateral accelerometer
++ Lower lateral accelerometer

++ Ignition switch
++ Reverse switch
++ Main relay
++ Warning lamp

+ Output
++ Main relay (Force ON)
++ Main relay (Force OFF)
++ Warning lamp
++ Dir Control valve 1
++ Dir Control Valve 2

+ Utility
++ Calib Accelerometer 1
++ Calib Accelerometer 2
++ Set Calibrated
++ Set Tested

++ Ace System Bleeding
+++ Step 1 start / stop
+++ Step 2 start / stop
+++ Step 3 start / stop

topnham

8th October 2010, 10:35 PM

Can anyone please tell me what their paypal info? So hard to make sense out of them, language barrier is a bit of a problem!

Slunnie

8th October 2010, 10:56 PM

Does this thing work fully with the early TD5 D2's that were pre OBDII and pre flash ECUs?

999

8th October 2010, 11:05 PM

Can anyone please tell me what their paypal info? So hard to make sense out of them, language barrier is a bit of a problem!

I didn't find any barrier with the language at all.
Have you emailed Matia and asked for a paypal request?

Just follow the "How to buy' segment on the web site.

topnham

8th October 2010, 11:38 PM

so what is it then

Slunnie

9th October 2010, 08:41 AM

Can anyone please tell me what their paypal info? So hard to make sense out of them, language barrier is a bit of a problem!

I registered with paypal and set up a credit card account.. Then it is a simple matter of entering Mattia's email address (info@nanocom.it)
as the payee and its done.. Paypal recognises the business "ELECTROBYTE"
from the email address and sends the payment with a confirmatory email...All very secure and safe.

Does this thing work fully with the early TD5 D2's that were pre OBDII and pre flash ECUs?

peter5111

9th October 2010, 10:43 AM

G'day Slunnie,

Mine is a 99 D2 and it works fine. You obviously can't flash new fuel maps but apart from that it is all good. I don't have airbags so I can't comment on that.

Occasionally it gets confused when you try to switch which computer you are talking to, but when ALL the computers in the car talk on the same single wire in the ODB port I figure it is fair enough. Cycling the ignition clears things up.

Regards,
Pete

peter5111

9th October 2010, 09:28 PM

so what is it then

Have you asked for total cost including shipping yet ?

The response I got when I ashed for the shipping costs made perfect sense and has precise payment information.

If you try to just send the 270 (ish) euro without the shipping costs then your probably will end up with a heap of language related headaches trying to figure it out.

Direct from the website (http://web.nanocom.it/default_i.cfm)

"
HOW TO BUY

Until the ecomerce page is not available, to order the NANOCOM EVO you can send an e-mail to orders@nanocom.it,
with your complete details, NAME, SURNAME, ADDRESS (Company name and VAT ID, for company customers), specifying if you want the SD card and what payment method you prefer.
We will reply with the price including the shipment costs with TNT express curier for your world area, and the payment details.The goods will be delivered after the payment arive to our account.

We accept paypal or bank transfer
"

RTFM, It really is pretty simple. :angel:

I had a few days between request and response. Maybe due to them needing to work out actual shipping costs? Maybe because they are just snowed under with the demand? They must have hundreds of Evo's going in the post every week just to catch up on back orders..

Be patient, the Evo REALLY is worth the effort.

Slunnie

9th October 2010, 09:34 PM

scott oz

10th October 2010, 12:00 PM

wsp

10th October 2010, 04:06 PM

Anyone able to help with the above question
Scott Oz,
The Evolution comes with an expansion port in the side of the unit. My understanding is that the new expansion board cable would just plug into the port to enable you to "manage extra sensor and drive optionals devices as fan, lights etc directly from the touch display."
Regards
Bill

mools

10th October 2010, 08:19 PM

peter5111

11th October 2010, 07:06 AM

Peter5111,

Quick question...

looking at those menu structures you posted for the Td5 defender; would I be right in thinking that the ECU's cruise control function can actually be used via the evo? Or does it just report the settings / faults with it?

I was going to fit a cruise but also buy a Nanocom Evo. soon, maybe I don't need to bother wiring up a cruise if the unit can be used to access the facility. I'd appreciate your comment.

Thanks,

Ian.

G'day Ian,

I don't have a Defender to check for certain, but I am pretty sure it is purely for diagnostics.

Even if you could 'drive' the cruise control, I don't think it would be that practical from the Evo.

Regards,
Pete

LOVEMYRANGIE

20th October 2010, 11:32 PM

I hae just emailed Mattia on the above plus queried when the manual will be out.
Will post his reply when it comes.

Regards

Andrew.

No PC software for Evo :(
Emailed Mattia as follows

Hi Mattia

The Evo's are starting to show up here in Australia and are looking good with good feed back.

One of the questions being asked on www.aulro.com (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/../) is if the Evolution is compatible with the original Nanocom PC software and if it will actually work with it.

Also, the Users Manual, can you advise when it will be available to download.

I am on the verge of ordering an Evolution but would like more information before I commit to it.

Regards

Andrew
'LOVEMYRANGIE'
www.aulro.com (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/../)

His Reply:

Hi,
I decided to cut the PC software because it cause me a lot of ptoblem.
It may seems to be something less than before and you can also think that I stop the PC software because I'm not able to manage it. It is almost true....
But since nanocom was born Microsoft change from XP-SP2 XP-SP3, VISTA and now WIN7.
I started with the COM and A lot of customer had problem with the adaptors...I was realy tired to wast time fo follow the Microsoft evolutions, and also MAC and LINUX customers was cut away.

I decided to put a nice display with touch, that allow an easy and nice usage.
I spent a lot of time in that interface, but now I think it can be very apreciated and it allow me to easily develope. Now that a lot of unit are in the hands of the customers many problems will come out, But the platform is completely designed by me so I know that I can fix all with short time.

Now Nanocom can be connected to all PC MAC and LINUX because it is seen by the computer as a removable memory device. You can exchange file maps and so on easily without install drivers and so on.

The diagnostc values are store in CSV format that can be opened with EXCEL and many other calculation and graphic programs.

The upgrade is very easy because you have only to drag drop files in the unit memory.

I tested the unit wery carefuly and I also fixed some bugs of the old units as the suspension plip programming.

Now I'm working to as V8 dor disco and PUMA and then I will make also the last upgrade for the old nanocoms(without the puma).

Regards
Mattia

Cheers

Andrew

PaulP38a

21st October 2010, 12:16 AM

Oh well, fair enough. Can't really blame him for not trying to keep up with every flavour of Windows, Mac OS and Linux variants.

The drag 'n drop approach makes it multi-platform and every O/s has programs that allow you to manipulate CSV files.

This is actually a positive step, as it will allow him to focus on system functionality rather than end-user device connectivity and user interface nuances of various operating systems.

Logical next step is for it to evolve from USB to a wired or wireless port and present itself through a browser as so many other consumer and industrial devices do these days. Then it will truly be platform independent... sort of... depending which browsers and app-dev environments it supports.
Just my 10 cents as an observer/participant of technology trends... (my day job).

On a less positive note.
Damn shame that Mattia takes so long to respond to questions. I was/am interested in making Hard Range a distributor of Nanocom but if he is unwilling or unable to respond to enquiries in a timely manner then that will reflect badly on my own business if/when I need to escalate issues to him.

Last correspondence I received, he took over a week to respond and then it was along the lines "I'm busy... if I don't get back to you in a week, send me another e-mail".

Sorry, not good enough. As a supplier/vendor you need to be a bit better organised than that. Once you acknowledge receipt of a customer message, the onus is on you to respond.

peter5111

21st October 2010, 07:15 PM

All Evo owners should be on Mattia's mailing list, but if not, the latest firmware was released today. I have put a copy here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9735122/NANOCOM_EVOLUTION_UPGRADE_PACK_21_10_2010.zip) for those who did not get the email.

brookvale

2nd November 2010, 09:08 AM

I see these (http://www.landrovertuning.com.au/shop/discovery/engine-tuning-discovery/nanocom-evolution-td5-diagnostic-tool-with-touch-screen.html)people selling them

mools

22nd January 2011, 02:15 PM

After sending an e-mail to Matia one long, long wait with no response I have finally got some info. about getting a Nanocom Evo......Strangely though the response came from someone else.

Seems that Nanocom (Mattia) has gone into partnership (or taken over, sold out...who knows exactly) with a former competitor, black box solutions.

[url=http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/] has an announcement to this effect and you can also order a nanocom evo. from their web shop (under blackbox basic bits).

Moderators; note that I have NO affiliation with either Nanocom or Blackbox - just sharing information I have. If it's a problem please remove this post.

This development may address the customer service issues that so many people seem to have; freeing up Matia to concentrate on the technical side whilst blackbox to provide the customer support - guess only time will tell.

So having now ordered one I'll wait for it to show up.

How are people getting on with the ones they already have? This thread has been quiet for ages, is there discussion elsewhere or just no issues?

Ian.

LOVEMYRANGIE

22nd January 2011, 10:22 PM

Link to the announcement on Blackbox site. Only thing on Nanocom site is a new pic of the unit but still shows pricing the old pricing.

http://blackbox-solutions.com/docs/BBS-NANOCOM.pdf

BBS Guy

23rd January 2011, 02:26 AM

Hiya Guys
Yea the Nanocom.it site content needs major overhaul and update which i am trying to fit in and should complete the main parts shortly ;)

I just added a quick news item on the Nanocom.it site about the changes in line with what is already posted up about it on our BBS site. lest you think it strange nothing be mentioned on the Nanocom.it site yet ;)

On behalf of Mattia, and myself, i can but only apologize to anyone who has written and got no response, and promise that things will now be very different in that respect :angel:

Regards the NANOCOM EVOLUTION:
Blackbox Solutions is, and always has been, widely acknowledged as being the provider of the highest quality and most capable equipment for Land Rover vehicle diagnostics, albeit at a price that meant most could only ever look to our single vehicle equipment. In it's original guise the Nanocom 1 (COM or USB) did not even come close. However the Evolution is a world apart and offers a degree of technology at a price point that is totally un matched. Hence we are so willing and able to add it to our existing product line up.

daljames

23rd January 2011, 07:45 AM

"On behalf of Mattia, and myself, i can but only apologize to anyone who has written and got no response, and promise that things will now be very different in that respect"

Gee i hope you find the time to hire someone for customer service!

Hmmm, maybe then there could be an answer to some of the queries i have put on the BBS forum about certain functions not performing in vehicle explorer that i postedOn 22/9/2010 then checked up again on 29/11/2010, only to be told things are a low priority and not to do with diagnostic etc, even though my query was to do with checking ignition and starting systems through Vehicle Explorer.

Colin, i will continue to tell people to buy your gear, it is the best going, but your "customer service" is beyond woefull. From a customer perspective, the feeling one has is that we, customers, are a nuisance to be tolerated with only thinly disguised disdain at best.

LOVEMYRANGIE

23rd January 2011, 12:27 PM

Hi Colin
I guess the big question is
1- if Mattia wasn't pricing the Evo to enable future expansion and support, is there going to be an increase in the price once you take it over.
2- when is it officially your product and when do you have stock
3- who is selling in the meantime and at what cost??

Mattia had stated fro the start that ability to interogate the ZF trans is planned plus with the addition of the V8, it's going to open up an extended market. However the concern is that there will be a premium for it.

I had plans to order one over the next few weeks from the UK agent as Mattia was too hard to get hold of but now this has me wondering what is going to happen and now how long I need to wait.

Cheers

Andrew.

Sent from my mobile tellingbone using rock carvings.

Fluids

23rd January 2011, 05:29 PM

Hey Andrew ... they offer some decent discounts for volume orders ...

Defender, Discovery II, Puma Licensed Versions - $442.52 w/o VAT

1 to 4 Units = 0% discount
5 to 9 Units = 10% discount
10 to 19 Units = 20% discount
20+ Units = 22.5% discount

10 units at 20% off = $354.00 AUD + postage. It's a group buy opportunity.

You'd have to get them sent in pairs direct to a pair of purchasers to stay under the $1k limit though. 1 order of 10x shipped to 5x addresses.

Rimmer

23rd January 2011, 07:51 PM

Group buy, I'm in!

What do we do? Start a thread.

Tod.

Hey Andrew ... they offer some decent discounts for volume orders ...

Defender, Discovery II, Puma Licensed Versions - $442.52 w/o VAT

1 to 4 Units = 0% discount
5 to 9 Units = 10% discount
10 to 19 Units = 20% discount
20+ Units = 22.5% discount

10 units at 20% off = $354.00 AUD + postage. It's a group buy opportunity.

You'd have to get them sent in pairs direct to a pair of purchasers to stay under the $1k limit though. 1 order of 10x shipped to 5x addresses.

LOVEMYRANGIE

23rd January 2011, 08:09 PM

Might be an idea, but let's see what is happening first with the change of hands.

Cheers

Andrew

Sent from my mobile tellingbone using rock carvings.

Rimmer

23rd January 2011, 08:20 PM

Thankyou Andrew,

A very wise notion!

Geeze I'm glad there are blokes like you out there, to stop me making "another" brazen purchase!

Tod.

mools

23rd January 2011, 08:55 PM

beefy

23rd January 2011, 09:19 PM

if we go for the group buy i would be in for one.

regards
keith

MR LSD

23rd January 2011, 10:27 PM

I am up for it - need one bad plus I would like to be able to help others in time of need:angel:

KarlB

23rd January 2011, 11:35 PM

Me also.

BBS Guy

24th January 2011, 02:19 AM

daljames, I am sorry you feel you have cause for complaint or criticism about our customer service, we do our best and in fact are very often complimented for it.

My comment on this thread was indicative of the fact that where in the past there was only Mattia attempting to respond to NANOCOM e-mail inquiries, along with dealing with everything else, i already have a team of at least five people to do so. Thus it is extremely unlikely that anyone should get no answer at all. I do not see that as justification for any criticism in this case !!!

All problems that are reported about our MSV-2 system on our forum are duly noted, however, we have a lot of customers and cover a lot of vehicles and systems, so sadly we cannot just drop everything to immediately concentrate on one persons particular problem, which i appreciate may be frustrating to that person.

Andrew, all your 3 questions are effectively answered by the fact that we already offer the NANOCOM EVOLUTION from our web shop :)
https://www.blackbox-solutions.com/shop/?browse=BLACKBOX%20BASICBITS
To my knowledge we are now the sole holders of stock of NANOCOM EVOLUTION units.

Regards future upgrades to the NANOCOM EVOLUTION, the previous owner of NANOCOM, Mattia had indeed indicated that his future plans and hopes involved adding additional coverage, DII Autobox, V8 and SRS, P38 Range Rover and even Disco 3.

I am quite sure that Mattia was most sincere in his future hopes and desires for the NANOCOM, however, the reality is that things have panned out very differently, And while future plans and hopes may not still be quite the same, the overall fact is that the NANOCOM EVOLUTION product has been saved and given a new lease of life thanks to Mattia and BBS reaching this conclusion and collaborating as we have. ;)

Once all the dust settles, we will of course look at upgrade possibilities, which will automatically then much easier to add based on BBS's existing technical knowledge and experience.

phil&liz

24th January 2011, 02:09 PM

I'm interested

discostu

24th January 2011, 07:48 PM

Group buy
I'm in!

MR LSD

24th January 2011, 10:02 PM

i need one so bad haha;)

IceFyre

25th January 2011, 08:09 AM

I will be in on a group buy :-)

Rosscoe68

25th January 2011, 09:59 AM

miky

25th January 2011, 10:52 AM

While this may be the case for the new unit it is the way of the world with stuff that is software driven.

You buy something and it can be updated or modified via software.
Many companies use a generic module which will do heaps of stuff but you may only get it doing one specific thing. Want it to do more or something different and you pay for it.

With some computer programmes it may only be a case of using a different "password" or code to activate different features.

A business is there to make make money. Can't really blame them.

.

Disco_ute84

25th January 2011, 11:26 AM

umm
looking at the online shopping site, it appears you need to buy the new nanocom, and then all the unlock codes are extra purchases. where the old nanocom you got all the unlock codes with it. is this correct, or am i reading it wrong ?
if it is correct it will be a quite expensive unit to get up to the same capability as the old nanocom.

This is how it looks to me. In the nanocom store if you bought a disco unit it did every thing, if you bought a defender unit, it did everything on a defender. Now you have to buy a basic Disco unit, at a higher price, and then buy additional unlock codes to end up with the same functionality as was available originally.

Rosscoe68

25th January 2011, 12:16 PM

yep i agree, don't mind paying more for a newer model with nice interface, but do object a little to paying more for a less functional unit if this is the case.

IanP

25th January 2011, 12:33 PM

I would be interested!

Ian

LOVEMYRANGIE

25th January 2011, 02:37 PM

yep i agree, don't mind paying more for a newer model with nice interface, but do object a little to paying more for a less functional unit if this is the case.

Agreed. Colin, you need to address this as it is one of the issues that comes up with devices like this.
The fact that it originally would access everything and now since you have taken it over you are now charging for different vehicle models is not really palatable to a lot of potential customers.
That is what has mad ethe Nanocom so successful an now it's as though your buying out competition and making the customer pay.

It's one thing that will stop me buying it.

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Xtreme

25th January 2011, 02:52 PM

I have a Defender Td5 and a D2.

Do I need a separate unit for each vehicle or can the unlock codes for both the Defender Td5 and D2 be uploaded to the one base unit (say the Defender Td5 one) or do I have to buy a base unit for each vehicle?

Confused as there are separate base units listed for Defender Td5, Discovery II and Defender Puma.

If I can get by with only one base unit, then I would be interested in the group buy possibility.

IceFyre

25th January 2011, 03:12 PM

LOVEMYRANGIE

25th January 2011, 03:22 PM

I could be wrong but the way I read it was:

You could buy a base Disco , Defender or Puma Nanocom. Then if you wanted you could purchase the additional modules which would unlock the other systems.

eg. I purchase a Base level Disco Nanocom Evolution (299 Euros) then if further down the track I wanted to to get full Defender functionality I could purchase the unlock module (49 Euros) . Giving me a Nanocom that Fully supports both the Disco and Defender.

Is this not that way the Evolution always worked ?

No. Anything TD5 related was on one unit, anything Puma related was on another for ?273 but for ?350 i think it was, you could get the TD5 and Puma complete in one unit non VIN specific. All the pricing was on the Nanocom website.

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Xtreme

25th January 2011, 04:07 PM

I could be wrong but the way I read it was:

You could buy a base Disco , Defender or Puma Nanocom. Then if you wanted you could purchase the additional modules which would unlock the other systems.

eg. I purchase a Base level Disco Nanocom Evolution (299 Euros) then if further down the track I wanted to to get full Defender functionality I could purchase the unlock module (49 Euros) . Giving me a Nanocom that Fully supports both the Disco and Defender.

Is this not that way the Evolution always worked ?

If that is the case then why are there separate base units listed on the BBS website for Disco, Defender and Puma.

A reply from BBS may clarify the situation.

IceFyre

25th January 2011, 04:57 PM

Just found an old Email from Mattia and you are right. It was €273 (TD5) + €76 Euro (Puma) - So overall it's $65 Australian dearer than it used to be. I would still be in on a Group buy :)

No. Anything TD5 related was on one unit, anything Puma related was on another for ?273 but for ?350 i think it was, you could get the TD5 and Puma complete in one unit non VIN specific. All the pricing was on the Nanocom website.

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Rosscoe68

25th January 2011, 07:42 PM

GRIFF

25th January 2011, 08:16 PM

put me down for 1 defender td5 thanks

Xtreme

25th January 2011, 10:09 PM

my bad, i didn't read enough into it before i posted.
quote from their website for TD5 D2 model for example.
"The Nanocom Evolution is a small stand alone unit with a 3.5 inch full Colour Graphic display. This version includes unlock codes to allow coverage of the TD5 Engine Management system, the Valeo Body Control, Active Cornerering enhancement (ACE) and the combined Air suspension and ABS (SLABS) system which are all applicable to the TD5 Discovery II. This is a Multi Vehicle unit, meaning it can be used on any vehicle of the same type and is not locked to any VIN. Includes The main NANOCOM EVOLUTION unit, an OBDII cable and a USB cable."

so you buy a vehicle specific unit then can unlock to other vehicles with additional purchases of unlock codes

That explanation makes a lot of sense - thanks.

So, to cover my DII and Defender I will need to purchase a Td5 DII main NANOCOM EVOLUTION unit (299 Euros) plus the unlock codes for the Defender (49 Euros).
A total of about $475Aus - group buy discount + freight. Sounds very reasonable to me.

MR LSD

25th January 2011, 10:24 PM

can we get a oder together then

PaulP38a

26th January 2011, 01:49 AM

Folks - Hard Range Australia (http://hardrange.com) is a local distributor for BBS products, and we have been holding off on the Nanocom thing for a while. I looked at becoming a distributor for Mattia last year, but did not proceed when he didn't respond promptly to enquiries.

So now that the Nanocom kit is supported by BBS I have a much higher comfort level that Nanocom has a future. True, BBS do not always give you the answer you want and support is predominantly through their forums... however, there is no doubt in my mind that their LR diagnostic products are the best available at the moment.

I am not sure that I understand why Nanocom products have been grouped within the Blackbox "Basic Bits" catalogue as these products have limited support. Perhaps this is an intermediate thing while the products are assimilated? With the capabilities of the Nanocom as it is, and what it can be, I hope to see it closer aligned to the FaultMate MSV-2 over time.

I am happy to facilitate a group buy of the Nanocom products and pass on the savings to you. Points to note:

anyone importing 20+ Nanocoms will attract the attention of Customs and you will get charged 5% Import Duty plus 10%GST on [the full retail value (before discount) of the shipment (+ the 5% duty) plus shipping cost].
BBS do not split orders for avoidance of Customs duty. It is not worth their while as a reputable business to be party to tax avoidance.
We already handle quantities of BBS product and can usually get the Customs process expedited to avoid delays, but not the charges unfortunately.
Once the goods are landed, we can Express Post to most capital cities overnight, and within 2-3 days for most regional locations at a cost of $10-15.

This is just an offer to help out fellow LR owners. I don't expect to make any profit from it, and product support will be via BBS... at least until we have more hands-on experience with the Nanocom.

If you are genuinely interested in a group buy and prepared to commit your hard-earned, please respond to this post or via info@hardrange.com by Saturday 5-Feb-2011.

I will tally up the interested parties and get a firm quote from BBS for delivery, apply the tax and local distribution charges and let you know your individual cost.

Think about it, do the sums, and let me know if I can help.

Cheers, Paul.

BBS Guy

26th January 2011, 04:05 AM

As Rosscoe68 has now read up and posted details of, the per vehicle type Nanocom units we offer all come with 2 unlock codes to cover the respective and designated vehicle model. Of course the TD5 allows access to TD5 engine managements on Defender and Disco II and the Defender 10AS alarm and Wabco ABS allows access to these systems on either a TD5 or Puma Defender, so there is some cross over.

So for a DIY owner to just cover their one vehicle model, there is absolutely need to also buy any of the additional / optional unlock code items.

They have been provided simply as options so that now anyone can expand a NANOCOM EVOLTION in the future, partly, or to full vehicle spec as they wish, Which is of course an option that was not previously available at all.

There is of course some small price increase in differing requirement situations, but as everyone will appreciate, this is not much, and easily countered with our discounting policies, that often allows a system to be purchased at a lower price than before and of course you have to remember that we are now providing our purchasers with a Technical support forum as well.

In fact, although some might be looking and comparing before and after situations, and complaining about small differences and increases, but overall, given that the initial pricing of the NANOCOM EVOLUTION has obviously proved to be near unworkable, that we have offered it at all, and for anything like its original price is actually really quite commendable.

Re PaulP38's offer
I simply cannot believe what a genuine and generous offer he has made on behalf of the members of this board, and frankly without him, i doubt that any group buy would happen at all.

It is easy to find a dozen or so members who will agree to buy a product at such a good bulk rate discount. But it typically all falls apart when it comes to finding a suitable and trust worthy enough person to act as the agent and willing to put in the time and effort to sort it all out.

For example, Member X might offer, but then without really knowing anything about Member X, everyone is expected to send them their money up front and hope that Member X supplies them with a system. You can't help but wonder, what if you never hear from member X again.

However when Member X is a well known and reputed company, already engaged in the diagnostic supply business, with ties to the supplier and has much more to loose than a forum membership, it's a whole different ball game.

My trust in Paul is absolute, and as such as the owner of Blackbox and now Nanocom too, i will underwrite and personally back his most generous hosting offer myself.

In other words, anyone purchasing a system under this quite unique offer via Paul is absolutely guaranteed to get a system, even if i have to send one to them directly myself.

In addition Paul is quite right, As far as we are concerned, the bulk discount rates we offer is only applicable when one person buys the requisite quantity in one go to be delivered in one consignment to one address.

BTW Paul
you are quite right again with regard to shop placement of the Nanocom Evolution in the Basic bits section being only temporary;)

Regards

Colin

LNDRVRED

26th January 2011, 09:40 AM

I want a Nanocom Evolution ASAP for my 2004 Defender 90 TD5!!!! Please Please Please where do I get one?

LOVEMYRANGIE

26th January 2011, 10:24 AM

Set it up Paul! I'm happy to accept all WA freighted items and hand out to purchasers if there is enough and freight can be reduced.

Andrew

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Rosscoe68

26th January 2011, 11:23 AM

good work here guys, i can see a good future for this product and the supply chain

IceFyre

26th January 2011, 01:27 PM

Not to throw a spanner in the works but with a 20% discount with the group buy, the 10% GST and 5% Import will make obviously only give us a 5% discount in the end. Would it be better just to order directly form BBS with the 10% AULRO discount ?

Just asking thats all.

sclarke

26th January 2011, 02:23 PM

I'm in for one.

mattg

26th January 2011, 02:29 PM

my bad, i didn't read enough into it before i posted.
quote from their website for TD5 D2 model for example.
"The Nanocom Evolution is a small stand alone unit with a 3.5 inch full Colour Graphic display. This version includes unlock codes to allow coverage of the TD5 Engine Management system, the Valeo Body Control, Active Cornerering enhancement (ACE) and the combined Air suspension and ABS (SLABS) system which are all applicable to the TD5 Discovery II. This is a Multi Vehicle unit, meaning it can be used on any vehicle of the same type and is not locked to any VIN. Includes The main NANOCOM EVOLUTION unit, an OBDII cable and a USB cable."

so you buy a vehicle specific unit then can unlock to other vehicles with additional purchases of unlock codes

Hey guys.

I read this and if I bought a Disco II Nanocom that is all I need for my truck because when I look up the Disco II unlock code it lists this "This is the unlock code for a Nanocom EVOLUTION to unlock access to the Valeo Body Control, Active Cornering Enhancement (ACE) and the combined Air suspension and ABS (SLABS) system of the Discovery II." All of this is included in the original unit. my understanding is that I would only need to buy a second module if I owned a Defender as well. Is this correct?

In an email from Mattia when the Evolution first come out he said that the Auto Trans control upgrade would be on the way and would be sent out as an upgrade at no charge, is this still in the plans?

cheers

Matt

phil&liz

26th January 2011, 06:00 PM

I've emailed Paul my expression of interest and I am happy to accept other peoples units for pick-up from my place in Macleod, Melbourne

Phil

PaulP38a

26th January 2011, 06:49 PM

I've emailed Paul my expression of interest and I am happy to accept other peoples units for pick-up from my place in Macleod, Melbourne

Phil

Thanks guys. We are out doing the Australia Day thing today, but I will be online later tonight and will respond to your emails and well-wishes then.

Cheers, Paul.

IanP

27th January 2011, 02:40 AM

I will be interested to see the figure you come up with Paul as I tend to agree with IceFyre i.e. that there is little benefit of a group buy (Price wise) with the GST and Duty versus ordering individually with the AULRO discount.

The issue of Tax Avoidance on imported goods is a 'non issue' as the Taxation Department clearly states 'there is no requirement to pay duty and Goods and Services Tax (GST) on imported goods valued at or below A$1000'

So the only issue seems to be Colin's wanting to send one large parcel rather than 10 parcels containing two units each? If Colin was prepared to bend his 'Rule' of 'the bulk discount rates we offer is only applicable when one person buys the requisite quantity in one go to be delivered in one consignment to one address'. then the group buy would be very attractive.

Although that would require all money to be collected and placed as one order, the problem does not seem insurmountable or am missing something?

Cheers
Ian

ds23man

27th January 2011, 05:11 AM

Before everybody jump's this wagon, read this:

BBS Guy Black Box Solutions - Land Rover Zone (http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f37/bbs-guy-black-box-solutions-133559.html)

A F.cked old Nanocom User!

:firedevil:

PaulP38a

27th January 2011, 08:46 AM

I will be interested to see the figure you come up with Paul as I tend to agree with IceFyre i.e. that there is little benefit of a group buy (Price wise) with the GST and Duty versus ordering individually with the AULRO discount.

Good point, it will come down to what can be done with the shipping from Cyprus. I shall let you guys know as soon as I have some info.

Cheers
Paul.

Disco_ute84

27th January 2011, 09:00 AM

So a couple of final question from myself before I jump in by one.

Are the Nanocom evolutions going to stay Vin free?

If I buy a Disco II unit do I need to purchase the TD5 EMS unlock code? What does it enable and what does it do?

Cheers,

pohm66

27th January 2011, 03:15 PM

Another question... purely from a functional perspective..... I'm interested in the "group buy".

With the ABS/SLS module.... does this mean that the SLS can be raised/lowered real time???

Will sort out the issued others have been trying to resolve without going to LR for their SLS remote fob and setup $$$$s.

PaulP38a

28th January 2011, 01:03 AM

I've been doing some research and corresponding with the folks at BBS about this proposed buy. To clarify what you get...

The NCOM01 kit for Defender TD5 includes support for the following modules/ECU:
TD5 Engine Management System
10AS Alarm
Wabco ABS

The NCOM02 kit for Disco II TD5 includes support for the following modules/ECU:
TD5 Engine Management System
Valeo Body Control
ACE
SLABS

The NCOM03 kit for Defender PUMA includes support for the following modules/ECU:
PUMA Engine Management System
Instrument Pack
10As Alarm
Wabco ABS

All units are multi-vehicle.

The additional "Unlock Code" modules allow you access the other modules on a different model. e.g. if you have a D2 TD5 unit, you can also access the TD5 EMS on a Defender Td5, but if you want to access the 10AS Alarm and Wabco ABS on the Defender TD5 you will need to purchase the NCOM12 licence as well.

Colin - if you read this, please tell me if I've got it wrong...

So far I have recieved 10 genuine expressions of interest (EOI). Doing the "hub and spoke" distribution thing does not seem to work yet as the EOI'ers are scattered around NSW, Vic, WA and Qld.

The Simple Facts:
Shipping for a single Nanocom unit out of Cyprus to Oz will cost between $45 and $75 depending on shipping method.

Shipping 10 units costs around $260, and 20 units almost $400. Let's say $26 each for 10 units and $20 each for 20 units.

A quick calculation of Import Duty and GST gives a landed cost of approx $425 each for 10 units, or approx $405 for 20 units.

My accountant tells me I have to charge GST if I pass this through the Hard Range books, to negate the import GST, so the per unit price becomes $470 (for a group buy of 10) or $440 (for a group buy of 20). This seems a little odd to me... if I pass-through the Import GST to you, which I should be able to claim back through my quarterly BAS, why should I have to charge you GST again once the kit is landed? Any accounting types out there who can advise please?

Add $15 for Express Post from me (in Canberra) to you. I can fit 2-3 units in an Express Post pack if you want to "spoke" with a couple of mates to reduce the domestic shipping a bit.

As IanP states, a sub-$1000 purchase should not attract GST or Import Duty (unless Customs catch you doing several sub-$1k purchases from the same supplier in a short period). For 1-2 units at a time, and between mates, this could be a goer.

I have NFI about a 10% AULRO discount... wish I knew about that when I bought my FaultMate MSV-2 a couple of years ago ;)

So, that's what I have so far... you can buy direct from BBS individually for around $510 inc shipping... or you can save $20-70 through a group buy with me.

Up to you if think it is worth it. Either way, I will stand by my promise to facilitate a group buy if you want it.

I am yet to have a play with a Nanocom Evolution but I sell a lot of FaultMate MSV-2 Extreme's for a few hundred dollars more than this in single-vehicle and multi-vehicle configs, and that is for all ECU's in the car (e.g. for Disco 2... + SRS, Transmission, HEVAC and Cruise) and it comes with the Vehicle Explorer software for your PC which is pretty powerful.

Anyway, I'm just presenting my findings so far... subject to change if/when better info comes through.

Cheers, Paul.

B-A-S

28th January 2011, 05:45 AM

Are the Nanocom evolutions going to stay Vin free?

Yes.

IceFyre

28th January 2011, 07:45 AM

The 10% AULRO discount can be found here (http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/downloads/terms_&_conditions/aulro.pdf).

IanP

28th January 2011, 08:21 AM

Paul, I am not an accountant but my understanding is that if you do put the money through your business; yes you do need to charge GST.

Re the AULRO 10% discount - Ron at BBS has said '10% is offered to established members but only on the MSV-2 systems and not the Nanocom, FCR or any Basic Bits'.

A quick 'back of the envelope' calculation on the different methods of getting the Nanocoms indicates a group buy figure of $487 assuming that Paul (or whoever) was able to pass the money through a personal (non business) account. This includes the quantity discount, plus freight, duty, GST and local freight. If Paul passed the money through the business account, the price would be approx $530 (not sure how GST on GST works).

The cost of buying direct would be $517 - $442 (no discount) plus $75 freight.

If Colin was prepared to accept a quantity order (and a single payment) then dispatch to individual members; the the price would be $428 - $442 less 20% plus $75 freight.

So Colin - how can we make this work and dispatch to individual members! :)

Cheers
Ian

IceFyre

28th January 2011, 08:33 AM

As per this post by Colin, the Nanocom does qualify for the discount :

Also, sorry if this comes over salesey, but i should perhaps remind anyone who forgot and tell those that don't know, the NANOCOM of course now also falls under our long running established AULRO member discount offer. :angel:

Critera and how to get it is detailed for that here.
http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/downloads/terms_&_conditions/aulro.pdf

IanP

28th January 2011, 08:58 AM

Thanks IceFyre, It seems like we are getting different stories regarding the AULRO discount depending on who we talk to! :o

IceFyre

28th January 2011, 09:08 AM

I think we need to wait for someone from BBS to clarify all this as it is a tad on the confusing side :) Price/Discounts/Postage etc

mools

30th January 2011, 08:43 PM

Well I'll let you all know how my order goes. I was quoted around 5 (working) days by TNT courier to get a unit to Sydney - ordered it on BBS's web site on saturday night so I guess the clock is ticking.

ian

Ordered 23rd delivered Friday 28th. Quick, no fuss. DHL tracking let me keep an eye on it all the way. I'll give BBS this - they did exactly what they said they would and kept me informed.

I hope the after market support is as good - time will tell but this is an excellent start and I have no reason to doubt them based on this. Just have to lay my hands on it now - delivered to my Sydney office the day I got posted regionally :mad: - it'll have to catch me up.

I didn't hear about the AULRO discount but wouldn't have qualified for it since I don't / haven't posted enough. So I payed the price on the website - I'm happy with that and I think it's reasonable; if the product support is better than before then it'll turn out to have been a real bargain. If you feel you need to shave off some more $s then the group buy sounds attractive but if you wan't it speedy I'd just take the full price - sounds like quite a bit of hassle for what may turn out to be not that many $s.

Anyway guess I'll be posting a bit more on the threads relating to using the unit rather than getting one - see you there once you get one.

Ian.

LOVEMYRANGIE

30th January 2011, 10:20 PM

Maybe instead of the AULRO discount on the unit, Colin could offer the extra unlock code of your choice for free. Works out about the same ;)

C'mon Colin, sounds like a good deal to me!! :thumbsup:

Andrew.

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BBS Guy

1st February 2011, 05:09 AM

Thanks Ian
We try our best :D

We do sometimes screw up and get torpedoed by customs, but it's pretty rare ;)

Re support, I really cannot pretend that my guys are anything like up to speed on this system yet, as we did not develop it, but as everyone knows, we really do know our stuff and have years of experience, we are therefore presently going through the system with a fine tooth comb, testing absolutely everything and noting anything that needs addressing. But at least now you will get an answer.

IceFyre, sorry if Ronnie confused you, i will have a boss like word ;) The Nanocom is deffo included in the 10% discount for established members.

LOVEMYRANGIE:
Nice Try Andrew ;)

I have no problem helping out as best i can and have already contacted Paul with a couple of options that are already above and beyond.

But there is a limit and you have to be fair.

Most seem to think and assume i took over the Nanocom product to either significantly hike the price up or kill a competitive product. But in reality and fairness i have done neither of these.
What i have done is improve availability and support and added a discount structure.

It does not take a genius to recognize that the Nanocom Evolution is already the best value for money diagnostic system on the market and backed by BBS know how and support, it is exactly as Ian says, a real bargain, even at the regular web shop price.

Rosscoe68

1st February 2011, 10:23 AM

Colin, don't mind us aussies.
we have a tendancy to complain about the price of everything. i know i commented earlier re the extra addons, however i corrected myself so please forgive.
i am sure if you could give the unit to us for free there would still be aussies complaining about having to pay for the postage. it astounds me sometimes the mentality of people . i regularly get ppl squeezing me for price. show them the cost and they still want me to sell below cost and come up with the classic line
"your boss is making heaps he can afford to lose on this one"

anyway well done on taking on this unit and supporting it. hope it works well for you.
i will be looking at getting one of these not too far in the future.

Rosscoe

discolaw

1st February 2011, 11:34 AM

PaulP38a

1st February 2011, 03:03 PM

Colin has sent some more numbers through which I will do some analysis on tonight and report my findings to the group.

Cheers, Paul.

PaulP38a

1st February 2011, 11:33 PM

Just want you guys to know that I'm not witholding information, just getting clarification before posting an update.

It is looking better than my previous post regarding pricing, but I don't want to state the price yet in case I've got it wrong.

Stay tuned, you will know soon after I do :D

Post midnight update: there is one price I can share that should be correct, and relates back to IceFyre's link to the AULRO discount:

to qualify, you must be an active AULRO Forum member with more than 50 posts and at least 6 months membership
it is a one-off offer for first time BBS customers
you check-out at the BBS shop and Enter AURLO1 in the Promo Code box
Send Colin (BBS Guy) a PM with your order reference number
wait for BBS to contact you with the final price
pay it and your goods will ship

(dot points are a summary of the BBS offer)

BBS Web Shop Price for a Nanocom Evolution to suit (one of) Defender TD5, Defender Puma or Disco II TD5 is $442.52 AUD (VAT does not apply).

10% AULRO Discount brings the buy price down to $398.27 AUD

Allow $50 AUD for shipping via EMS DataPost, so price becomes $448.27 AUD.

If you do an International Money Transfer (IMT) expect your bank to charge you $20-25 (CBA charges $22). New total = $470.27
or
If you do a PayPal transaction (by arrangement with BBS), add 3%. New Total = $461.72

Now you can see what we are aiming to beat to make the group buy worthwhile ;)

Cheers, Paul.

pohm66

2nd February 2011, 11:32 AM

Thanks for the leg work on this Paul....:clap2:

PaulP38a

3rd February 2011, 01:31 AM

I think the BBS folks are still trying to interpret my "what if and how" questions ;)

If my calculations are correct, and with the generous shipping discount that Colin has offered me to facilitate this "deal", I think we can get a Nanocom Evolution (Disco 2 TD5, Defender TD5, or Defender Puma) delivered to your door for just under $450... and that includes a Tax Invoice inclusive of GST from Hard Range Australia Pty Ltd.

So, if you can claim the GST component of the sale the Nanocom will effictively cost you around $405 if you get it through this group buy.

I'm taking my better half to the Sting concert at the Sydney Opera House on Thursday night, and will be returning to HRA HQ (aka home) on Saturday night. My kids (grown up, in age anyway) and Hell-Hounds (pic attached of what the "clever" Boxer did to her bed tonight) will still be here but they aren't much help when it comes to responding to HRA enquires :p. I will be contactable via mobile (0412 012 025), Blackberry e-mail (info@hardrange.com) and maybe via this forum on iPad, depending on mood and sobriety level ;)

Forum replies are good to share info with the group, although if you actually want to contact me quickly, please e-mail me direct at info@hardrange.com

I always try to reply within 24 hours... and mostly within 1-8 hours... please check your SPAM or Junk-Mail folders if you haven't got my reply sooner. If I ask for a Read Reciept it is only to confirm that you got my message ok.

On Saturday night or Sunday I will collate the EOI'ers and seek confirmation of intent at the agreed price.

Cheers, Paul.

hiline

3rd February 2011, 01:52 AM

whats the delivery time on these orders ???

i'm looking at getting one as well,just waiting on a refund off another sorce :mad:

PaulP38a

3rd February 2011, 02:13 AM

whats the delivery time on these orders ???

i'm looking at getting one as well,just waiting on a refund off another sorce :mad:

Expect to have them ordered by mid-2nd week in Feb when funds arrive from firm EOI'ers, and delivered to you by end of Feb.

hiline

3rd February 2011, 02:17 AM

well i'll get back to you in a few days with my order
all things going well :D

if i was to pay the normal price would it arrive any quicker ??

PaulP38a

3rd February 2011, 02:28 AM

well i'll get back to you in a few days with my order
all things going well :D

if i was to pay the normal price would it arrive any quicker ??

No prob, I shall publish my latest findings on Sat or Sun with a firm price.

Re delivery... nope, 1-2 weeks is the norm for stuff to arrive from Cyprus whether by EMS DataPost or DHL in my experience.

hiline

3rd February 2011, 02:30 AM

no probs mate ..........

LOVEMYRANGIE

3rd February 2011, 09:43 AM

I'm in! Will email you.

Cheers

Andrew

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greg-g

3rd February 2011, 12:56 PM

I'm very interested, will send you an email.

PaulP38a

6th February 2011, 02:05 AM

Looks like we have 15 takers so far, so we should be right for the 20% discount, but not enough for the 22.5% discount.

Still waiting for BBS to get back to me with the "what-if" questions I sent a few days ago. I will re-send to them with the "firm-ish" numbers.

So, what I am asking for now is, would those guys (I have no responses from ladies AFAIK) please confirm to me via PM or e-mail to info@hardrange.com:

that they are happy to pay $450 for a Nanocom Evolution, includes delivery to your door and a GST-inc Tax Invoice
your AULRO name
your real name, phone number and full address for shipping
which version you want - Defender TD5, Defender Puma or Disco 2 TD5
preferred payment method - cash (if in/near Canberra), direct deposit, PayPal (to sales@hardrange.com) or credit card (by arrangement as I will need to be in front of a computer screen to enter your CC details over the phone - I DO NOT want your CC details by e-mail, for your protection)
if you want to add another module, allow $70

Cheers, Paul.

LOVEMYRANGIE

6th February 2011, 10:11 AM

Disco W.A

6th February 2011, 10:43 AM

Email sent

Rosscoe68

6th February 2011, 03:28 PM

still trying to work out whether i will actually achieve much upgrading from first nanocom
:/

LOVEMYRANGIE

6th February 2011, 04:10 PM

Dave, if you read this, how about a sub group specifically for group buys?
Maybe a sub thread in The Verandah??

Cheers

Andrew

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Xtreme

6th February 2011, 06:00 PM

Hi PaulP38a,

I'm in on group buy.
Email & PM sent.

Thanks for organising.

Mellow Yellow

6th February 2011, 06:08 PM

PM sent

MTB

6th February 2011, 07:57 PM

e-mail send.
I am on board.

Rimmer

7th February 2011, 07:58 AM

E-mail on it's way!

Tod.

IceFyre

7th February 2011, 07:59 AM

Count me in. I will send an email in a sec. Thanks so much for this :-)

harro959

7th February 2011, 04:34 PM

email sent, thanks for all of the effort paul

robbotd5

7th February 2011, 06:53 PM

Yes I am very interested.
Regards
Robbo.

KarlB

7th February 2011, 09:28 PM

Email sent.

Cheers
KarlB
:)

hiline

7th February 2011, 09:30 PM

PM sent Paul :D

thanks heaps mate :BigThumb::BigThumb:

PaulP38a

8th February 2011, 03:38 AM

The group buy is good to go lads (and one ladette).

$450 is the price for delivery to your door for a Nanocom Evolution (Defender TD5, Defender Puma, or Disco II TD5), and you will get a GST inclusive Tax Invoice from Hard Range Australia Pty Ltd.

Thanks to all those folks who have confirmed. Only waiting on 3 EOI's to confirm yay or nay:

Disco_ute84 (D2)
Sclarke (Def TD5)
jwb (model?)

For those folks who want to do the direct deposit, please put your name or AULRO ID in the notes field to:
Bank: Commonwealth
Branch: Queanbeyan, NSW
Account Name: Hard Range Australia Pty Ltd
BSB: 062593
Account No: 10388015
Please drop me an e-mail to info@hardrange.com when done so I can keep an eye out for incoming payments.

For PayPal to sales@hardrange.com also include your name or AURLO ID.

For those who indicated preference for CC, I will call you between 6pm and 9pm on Tuesday 8-Feb... need phone no for mattg

I'm going to get myself one to play with even though I don't have a TD5 or Puma to try against... they just look cool ;) maybe one day for a P38 V8 or a TD4 Freebie...

Cheers, Paul.

woody64

8th February 2011, 04:25 AM

thanks Paul im in :)

Rimmer

8th February 2011, 04:58 AM

Folding stuff is in the ether, on it's way!

Disco_ute84

8th February 2011, 06:31 AM

Email sent.

Thanks Paul

pohm66

8th February 2011, 09:05 AM

I'm in....

PM sent.....

disco_thrasher

8th February 2011, 11:14 AM

this is a very well worth it buy guys ,jump on it

Basil135

8th February 2011, 11:17 AM

this is a very well worth it buy guys ,jump on it

Already jumped.

Just hope I don't break anything.

IceFyre

8th February 2011, 12:45 PM

We must be close to 20 units and the extra 2.5% ??

So hurry up people jump in and grab a bargain.

PaulP38a

8th February 2011, 01:48 PM

We must be close to 20 units and the extra 2.5% ??

So hurry up people jump in and grab a bargain.

Yep only need a couple more to get the extra 2.5%
Still working off the $450 figure and I will refund the diff if/when we reach the 20.

Got an email from Colin this morning re supply. Stock is getting low and they are struggling to keep up with demand for the Nanocoms. We might have a delay in shipping from Cyprus by a few weeks.
I will do a tally tonight of who has paid to see if we have enough to place the order now and avoid the coming delays.

LOVEMYRANGIE

8th February 2011, 02:20 PM

Yep only need a couple more to get the extra 2.5%
Still working off the $450 figure and I will refund the diff if/when we reach the 20.

Got an email from Colin this morning re supply. Stock is getting low and they are struggling to keep up with demand for the Nanocoms. We might have a delay in shipping from Cyprus by a few weeks.
I will do a tally tonight of who has paid to see if we have enough to place the order now and avoid the coming delays.

I'll forward payment Thursday- Friday.
Maybe if you ordered the extra 2 or 3 needed for your own stock...????

Cheers

Andrew

Sent from my backyard TeePee using smoke signals.

mickygee

8th February 2011, 06:03 PM

i'm in too, pls let me know where to send cash

Rimmer

8th February 2011, 06:32 PM

All the required info is contained in the thread!

The group buy is good to go lads (and one ladette).

$450 is the price for delivery to your door for a Nanocom Evolution (Defender TD5, Defender Puma, or Disco II TD5), and you will get a GST inclusive Tax Invoice from Hard Range Australia Pty Ltd.

Thanks to all those folks who have confirmed. Only waiting on 3 EOI's to confirm yay or nay:

Disco_ute84 (D2)
Sclarke (Def TD5)
jwb (model?)

For those folks who want to do the direct deposit, please put your name or AULRO ID in the notes field to:
Bank: Commonwealth
Branch: Queanbeyan, NSW
Account Name: Hard Range Australia Pty Ltd
BSB: 062593
Account No: 10388015
Please drop me an e-mail to info@hardrange.com when done so I can keep an eye out for incoming payments.

For PayPal to sales@hardrange.com also include your name or AURLO ID.

For those who indicated preference for CC, I will call you between 6pm and 9pm on Tuesday 8-Feb... need phone no for mattg

I'm going to get myself one to play with even though I don't have a TD5 or Puma to try against... they just look cool ;) maybe one day for a P38 V8 or a TD4 Freebie...

Cheers, Paul.

harro959

8th February 2011, 06:50 PM

money sent.

Thanks paul

PaulP38a

8th February 2011, 07:00 PM

Am off to watch Top Gear and will be back on this later tonight. Am happy to take phone calls for those who want to do the CC thing later tonight (up until midnight, Canberra time), or can do it tomorrow night.
Got a busy day at work "my day job" tomorrow so won't be able to do it during the day.
Cheers, Paul.

hiline

8th February 2011, 11:33 PM

PM me your number mate and i'll get the good lady to ring you tomorrow night
and pay the amount needed :D

mickygee

9th February 2011, 12:10 AM

money sent via Paypal, thanks

PaulP38a

9th February 2011, 02:04 AM

Looking good folks... we have broken the 20 mark.

I have either recieved payment or direct deposit notification for 12 out of the 24 EOI'ers. Am expecting a few CC payments tomorrow night.

If you are one of the folks who wants to pay via CC, please call me between 7pm and 10pm on Wednesday or Thursday night. I repeat my earlier statement... for your own protection do not send me your CC details via e-mail

...alternatively...

I have set up a special product entry at hardrange.com to allow you to pay by PP or CC at your own convenience rather than waiting on a phone call. See this link Nanocom Evolution (AULRO Group Buy) | Hard Range Australia (http://hardrange.com/node/118)

This product entry will be removed from hardrange.com on Friday night.

Per IanP's suggestion, I have put a post in the The Verandah to catch any other interested buyers who want to get in on this.

DD and CC funds should clear by Friday and I will place the order with BBS on Friday night for however many I have cleared funds for.

Price stands at $450 (inc GST) unless I get payment for more than 20 units by Friday, then it will drop a bit by whatever I can pass on taking the exchange rate and shipping in to account, plus PayPal or CC fees I have incurred along the way. I will work out the refunds after I have paid the Customs duties.

Cheers, Paul.

hiline

9th February 2011, 08:40 AM

i'm happy to pay the $450 and if there is any refund please feel free to donate mine back to the site :D

once again Thanks for your work :clap2::clap2:

one_iota

9th February 2011, 08:47 AM

I'm with you Ray...happy for any improvement on $450 to be donated to AULRO

IceFyre

9th February 2011, 10:44 AM

What they said :-)

Psimpson7

9th February 2011, 10:50 AM

This may be a stupid question, but if I was to buy one with Defender and D2 functionality, will it read the ABS/Body control etc on our D2a which is a v8?

I currently have the older nanocom and it will sometimes.

PaulP38a

9th February 2011, 10:27 PM

12 payments cleared :D
6 direct deposits in progress ;)
7 yet to pay (or advise me that direct deposit has been made) :(

It is now unlikely that non-Commonwealth Bank direct deposits via Internet Banking will clear by Friday CoB, although I guess you could do it "old school" and walk in to a bank with cash :eek:

PayPal will clear instantly (but not those silly eCheques that take a week), and Credit Card payment via Nanocom Evolution (AULRO Group Buy) | Hard Range Australia (http://hardrange.com/node/118) will clear overnight.

The group buy order will be placed with BBS on Friday night.:spudnikboogie:

GRIFF

10th February 2011, 06:14 AM

paid by paypal thanks :)

LOVEMYRANGIE

10th February 2011, 10:23 PM

Paid via debit card on the website.

Cheers Paully!

Andrew

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PaulP38a

10th February 2011, 10:47 PM

20 members have paid, and their funds cleared in to my account. Thanks to:
Basil135
Brookvale
Disco W.A
Disco_ute84
Discostu
greg-g
Griff
harro959
hiline
IanP
KarlB
Lovemyrangie
Mellow Yellow
mickygee
MTB
one_iota
pohm66
Rimmer
woody64
Xtreme

If your name is not on the list and you believe it should be, you need to contact me ASAP before I place the order with BBS on Friday night.

Cheers, Paul.

Basil135

11th February 2011, 08:40 AM

:ehigh5:

:banana:

Nova

11th February 2011, 12:59 PM

Hi Paul,

Just made payment through hardrange with PP. Email sent to you with the other details. Thanks for organising this.

Cheers,
Nova

IceFyre

11th February 2011, 03:23 PM

Paid via the HardRange website with PayPal.

Again Thanks Paul :-)

PaulP38a

11th February 2011, 06:05 PM

This Nanocom Evolution Group Buy is now closed!! :p

I have removed the special product from hardrange.com and we have 23 units in the group buy.

Will tally the results/payments/details and get the order off to BBS tonight.

Stay tuned for updates...

Cheers
Paul.

IceFyre

11th February 2011, 07:13 PM

These (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RS232-RS-232-DB9-9-pin-M-F-angle-90-degree-Adapter-/390287275267?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5adeef3503#ht_3168wt_1139) might come in handy as the orientation of the serial connector is not ideal IMO. I have ordered one as I will be mounting mine next to my EMS1 on my dash pod.

BBS Guy

13th February 2011, 04:04 AM

Congratulations to all participants of this group buy.
And on behalf of everyone an especial thanks to Paul for all his hard work and effort which i am quite sure has resulted in breaking the 20 mark and getting the highest possible discount for everyone ,and certainly the lowest price Nanocoms have ever been available for. :arms:

I know i did a little helpful fiddling, to smooth things a bit, but it was nothing compared to the hard work that Paul has put in on your behalf in making this possible.

But i would just like you to all know a little something you do not know. While this group buy has been taking shape, we have been selling our limited stocks of Nanocoms like hot cakes. We are now totally sold out and won't have any more for at least a couple of months while we get our own production of them set up.

Under normal circumstances, we would almost certainly have to disappoint at least half the participants of this group buy.

However as Paul is an official BBS distributor, he has worked with us to ensure we reserve sufficient Nanocoms for every participant.

So Paul not only helped members of this board get a Nanocom at the lowest price ever, but also ensured that they got one at all.

Warmest Regards

Colin

PaulP38a

13th February 2011, 11:26 PM

I know i did a little helpful fiddling, to smooth things a bit, but it was nothing compared to the hard work that Paul has put in on your behalf in making this possible.

Thanks for the kind words Colin. Not wanting to turn this thread in to a Blackbox/Hard Range mutual appreciation society:p but I must thank you and Victoria for working out some very good pricing on the units and shipping, and your prompt response to my enquiries on behalf of the group buy.

Looking forward to recieving these units, getting them out to the members and having a play myself... now to find a Defender and Disco II TD5 to play on :D

Cheers, Paul.

LOVEMYRANGIE

14th February 2011, 09:07 PM

Excellent work from both of you I will say.
Any idea on how long before we all get our "happy endings"? ;)

Sent from my backyard TeePee using smoke signals.

PaulP38a

14th February 2011, 09:40 PM

Any idea on how long before we all get our "happy endings"? ;).

Mate, my "value add" customer service attitude only goes so far... unless your name is Angelina Jolie, Elle McPherson or Liz Hurley :o

Hoping to have them in my hands by end of Feb (Nanocoms that is), assuming no delays through Customs, and they will be shipped out within a day or two.

Cheers, Paul.

BBS Guy

15th February 2011, 05:36 AM

Everything we ship must first pass a very explicit and fully documented test procedure, performed by the same person who will ultimately be providing first line support for it, in the event anyone should ever need it :)

I only wish that were Angelina Jolie , Elle McPherson or Liz Hurley [tonguewink]

dullbird

19th February 2011, 09:58 PM

I cant believe I missed this....

PaulP38a

22nd February 2011, 10:26 PM

For those who are anxiously waiting...

Accrding to DHL tracking, and confirmed by BBS staff, the package (containing all 23 ordered units :cool:) was collected from BBS last Thursday.

As of midday yesterday (Monday) it was "ON HOLD" in the DHL facility in Larnaca, Cyprus.

The folks at BBS are following up with DHL to find out what the delay is.

I will update when I have new info.

Cheers, Paul.

LOVEMYRANGIE

22nd February 2011, 10:44 PM

Anxious???? I'm 2 knuckles into my fingernails, now wearing incontinence pads and sucking back cans of Mortein to control the butterflies!!!!!

Sent from my backyard TeePee using smoke signals.

PaulP38a

25th February 2011, 08:42 PM

The Nanocoms arrived at Sydney Airport this morning.

Spoke with DHL this morning ready to sort out the paperwork, but it seems Customs still have the package on hold.

Proabably won't hear any more from them over the weekend now.

We are almost there guys :)

peter5111

26th February 2011, 09:59 PM

This is directed to Colin from BBS but there are quite a few Nanocom Evolution owners on the list that bought their hardware direct from Mattia, pre BBS involvement. I suspect they will be interested in the response so I figured it was appropriate to post the question in the public forum.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the impression I get from the Nanocom.it website is Mattia is still involved with the Nanocom Evolution development ?

If this is the case, what is the roadmap forwards with respect to firmware upgrades on Pre BBS Nano Evo's? The options as I see them ;
'Mattia' owners will get direct access to BBS developed firmware.

or There something going on in the background that will allow Mattia to post firmware updates to the Nanocom.it website?

or 'Mattia' owners are going to be orphaned to just support from Mattia independently developed firmware?

or are we going to get left out in the cold?

Cheers,
Pete

BBS Guy

28th February 2011, 12:23 AM

Hello Pete

Thank you for airing your high levels of personal concern and obvious mis trust and giving me an opportunity to respond to them publically. I recall many also imagining other unfounded negative aspects, such as we would hike up the price, or lock them to a VIN etc, even retrospectively can you
believe. However as you can see from this thread alone, none of this is true either, and in fact these lucky participants of the group buy are getting their Nanocoms at a price probably well below what you
paid !!!

From your questions, i guess you must have completely missed my announcement letter, which is linked to from the front pages of both the BBS and the Nanocom website.

It quite clearly states that the intent behind our agreement is to make a massive improvement for "everybody" and that it would allow the origional developer (Mattia) to concentrate soley on future developments.

Already in a very short period, we have indeed made significant improvements in many areas.
1) Any E-mail for support or information is now responded to almost instantly (Within our working hours
of course) And you will hopefully note that we do not ask or care where it was purchased from.
2) There is now a web shop for instant purchase of Nanocoms and additional unlock codes.
3) We are very pleased to be working with reputable people like Paul to set up more local supply
arrangements.
4) We have already re worked quite a few of the documents and have produced system coverage
documentation and instructional videos to better aid owners.

Despite what you seem to imagine, there are no double standards and no mechanism exists for releasing future software upgrades, other than the single reserved for owners area on the Nanocom.it web site.
There simply is no possibility for upgrades to be released that will only work on some Nanocoms and not others.

As many more will shortly discover for themselves, the Nanocom Evolution is a simply stunning piece of technology. It is a real credit to it's origional developer, and the collaberation between us means it will only get better and have a much brighter future.

peter5111

28th February 2011, 05:48 PM

G'day Colin,

Cheers. I appreciate you laying down your policy in black and white.

Apologies if I came across as either negative or a cynic, that certainly was not my intention. I simply caught myself head scratching and wondering exactly where things stood. A bit of a habit when I am involved in the engineering side of through life support of equipment with a 30+ year life expectancy.

Somewhere in the flurry of activity I must have either missed your original post detailing the current state of play, or I simply mis interpreted. Either way I now have a clear picture in my mind about support for my Evo.

Thankyou

PaulP38a

28th February 2011, 11:15 PM

The package cleared Customs today @ 6:23pm and is on it's way to me, duties paid.

At 10:59pm it was sitting in the DHL depot in Sydney.

DHL reckon it will be on my doorstep on Wednesday... past experience says 50% of the time that means someone will do a drive by and put a "sorry we missed you" card in my letterbox. No biggie, their depot in Canberra is not far from where I work anyway.

Next post should be me saying I've got them and am sorting them to send to y'all.

If any of you Victorians are attending the AULRO get-together at Greendale this coming weekend, let me know and I will hand-deliver your Evo to you... or if you have a mate attending and want me to give it to him/her instead of posting, let me know.

Cheers, Paul.

LOVEMYRANGIE

1st March 2011, 12:43 AM

:D :banana: :D :BigThumb: :D :banana: :D :BigThumb: :D :banana: :D :BigThumb: :D

hiline

1st March 2011, 09:55 PM

Paul i'd love for you to hand deliver my Nanocom on Saturday :D

PaulP38a

1st March 2011, 10:27 PM

Paul i'd love for you to hand deliver my Nanocom on Saturday :D

No worries... look forward to meeting you.

DHL has the package in Canberra but have not yet attempted delivery or contacted me. I will contact them in the morning.

About to send out e-mails to all buyers with Tax Invoice and to confirm shiping details.

Edit @ 1:10am my web host and mail provider picked a great time to have a connection problem to my sites... 20 e-mails backed up in my outbox folder and I can't get to the main hardrange.com site... first time this has happened to me with them.

Another Edit @ 2:20am - all is good again... mail flowing and the web site is responding ok.

AULRO group buyers - please check your e-mails and the attached Tax Invoices I have sent you, and reply asap to confirm/correct the shipping details.

Will do the maths re final price once I've got the units in my hands.

Cheers, Paul.

PaulP38a

2nd March 2011, 12:47 PM

Collected the package today... Appears to be ok. Will start sorting and putting in to Express Post bags tonight. Some folks will have theirs by Friday.

Will also put some links up tonight showing how to register your Evo, recover your unlock codes and enter new ones.

Cheers, Paul.

Basil135

2nd March 2011, 01:07 PM

:banana:

:ehigh5:

PaulP38a

2nd March 2011, 10:59 PM

With the exception of a handful of folks who are getting their EVO's hand-delivered, the rest have been packed in Express Post bags and will be dropped off at the Post Office in Santa Sacks on Thursday by my lovely assistant in her TD4 Freelander.

Most people in metro areas on the East Coast should have them Friday, other areas next Monday or Tuesday. Brookvale in NZ, yours is coming Registered International Post so more like the end of next week from past experience.

I have just gone through the registration process and unlocked my EVO. Here are a few tips, with thanks to Colin for the links:

to register at the nanocom.it site you will need the NANOCOM ID of your unit. It IS NOT the 4 digit number stamped or written on the back of the unit. To get the NANOCOM ID you need to power up the unit (either through the OBDII port of your car, or with a 12VDC/500-1000mA power supply) and go to the NANOCOM -> SETUP -> NANOCOM ID menu item. It is the alpha-numeric 6 digit code. This is what you enter at the registration screen.
See the video tutorial at Created by Blackbox Solutions Ltd. (http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/downloads/videos/Nanocom_ID.html)
After registering, it only took a few minutes before I got an email back with my password. See Created by Blackbox Solutions Ltd. (http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/downloads/videos/Nanocom_Registration.html)
I was then able to log on to the "Restricted Area" imediately and recover my unlock codes from the "browsing licenses" menu. See Created by Blackbox Solutions Ltd. (http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/downloads/videos/Obtaining_Nanocom_Codes.html) Note: these codes are case-sensitive.
I found entering the unlock codes a bit fiddly with my fingers using the on-screen keyboard of the Evo. See Created by Blackbox Solutions Ltd. (http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/downloads/videos/Nanocom_Unlock_Codes.html) The paper Quick Setup Guide mentions that you can use a toothpick or pencil, but that didn't work for me. However, the stylus from my iPad worked just fine.
After entering the codes, keep scrolling to the right until you see the "SAVE UNLOCK CODE" button, press it, wait and then keep exiting menus until you see the power button in the bottom right corner. Press it, wait for the unit to power down, unplug the power and then plug it back it.
Nanocom Evo is now unlocked and ready to use.

Please familiarise yourself with the tips and instructional videos above as it will make setup quick and easy.

For the TD5 Defender and Disco 2 folks attending Greendale this weekend, I will be bringing my unit along so you can have a play if you want.

Cheers
Paul.

IceFyre

4th March 2011, 09:29 AM

Nanocom arrived :-) Off to get some unlock codes now. Thanks to Paul and Colin for being instrumental in organising this.

LOVEMYRANGIE

4th March 2011, 02:23 PM

Nanocom arrived :-) Off to get some unlock codes now. Thanks to Paul and Colin for being instrumental in organising this.

Instrumental... No pun intended! ;) hehe

Sent from my backyard TeePee using smoke signals.

harro959

4th March 2011, 04:43 PM

Just got mine, Thanks so much to the "instumentals"

One quick question, how long is it taking for people to get the email from the nanocom website with the login info?....

ive been waiting 5 minutes and getting really jittery because i want to play with my new toy

IceFyre

4th March 2011, 05:07 PM

I fired my registration off at 9.30am this morning. Still nothing back in the email. I put it down to Time differences. But its hard having it sit there and do nothing ... lol

Just got mine, Thanks so much to the "instumentals"

One quick question, how long is it taking for people to get the email from the nanocom website with the login info?....

ive been waiting 5 minutes and getting really jittery because i want to play with my new toy

one_iota

4th March 2011, 05:20 PM

I'm still sitting on the verandah waiting for the postie to arrive :D

Mellow Yellow

4th March 2011, 05:34 PM

Got mine this morning. Now waiting for the e-mail with the details I need to obtain my unlock codes.

I'm assuming the delay is due to the time difference between here and the UK.

harro959

4th March 2011, 05:37 PM

Good to know im not alone in this.....

Good luck with the veranda one_iota, hope you have a few beers handy

Disco_ute84

4th March 2011, 06:55 PM

Mine got delivered today:D Just registered it on the nanocom.it site, now the wait... Can I play with it yet?:(

Disco_ute84

4th March 2011, 07:03 PM

Great news! Got an email back in less than 2 mins.... I'm off to the shed for a while.:D:D:D:tease:

IceFyre

4th March 2011, 07:20 PM

Great news! Got an email back in less than 2 mins.... I'm off to the shed for a while.:D:D:D:tease:

They must have missed my registration from this morning ... will try again

edit: And that time the email response was instant ..

IceFyre

4th March 2011, 07:47 PM

For those that have their unlock codes and up are and running can you access all you are supposed to ? I can only get into TD5. SLABS, Valeo and ACE all say locked. Will keep trying and see whats going on.

EDIT: Fixed ... I received a Unlock Code 1 and and Unlock Code 3 .. they must be entered into the correct Unlock field on the Nanocom ... not just one after the other.

harro959

4th March 2011, 08:44 PM

Soo.......... i now have a piece of paper filled with fault codes.... any help on where i find what they all mean and maybe a manual for the evo?

IceFyre

4th March 2011, 09:02 PM

Email coming your way Colin .. My Evo's internal memory seems to be corrupted :twisted:

I was writing the ECU Map to SD Card ready for a new TD5 Alive remap when it just hung.

On startup it then said mainexec.mex not found. Downloaded the update files from the nanocom.it restricted area. Plugged it into the USB and accessed the internal memory of the evo (as outlined in the readme) I copied the update files across. Boots up but menu does not display.

Hope this doesn't happen to anyone else.

Update: After getting a copy of the internal memory from a helpful soul I am back up and running. So my advice, backup your internal memory before doing too much.

pohm66

4th March 2011, 10:06 PM

Thanks Paul... got mine in the mail also today.... Happy days ahead....

MTB

4th March 2011, 10:13 PM

Thanks Paul
All is well, and it is working fine.
Immobiliser on, immobiliser off etc etc all good.

MTB

4th March 2011, 10:18 PM

Thanks Paul
All is well, and it is working fine.
Immobiliser on, immobiliser off etc etc all good.

d@rk51d3

4th March 2011, 10:29 PM

I cant believe I missed this....

x2 :(

IceFyre

5th March 2011, 09:07 AM

Final update on my Nanocom evolution.

Colin replied via PM and also I had an email not long after from BBS support with a fix to my problem before the weekend. Happy to say the Evo is up and running again.

Support and Service has been fantastic. They replied and fixed my problem within hours of me contacting them. So to all those with Nanocoms or thinking of purchasing from BBS I can vouch 100% for the after sales support. Well done guys and thanks.

BBS Guy

6th March 2011, 04:02 AM

Thanks for your comments of appreciation and thanks IceFyre.
Glad you are all sorted and smiling again ;)

My staff typically respond to all E-mails within a maximum of only a couple of (GMT+2) working time hours. So already this is a vast improvement for any existing owner of a Nanocom, or for those looking to buy one.

Once anyone has installed a suitible SD card in an Evo, it is advisable to use the system back up function to create a restore file as soon as possible.

If anyone has any problems or needs support of any kind, can i ask you to E-Mail support@nanocom.it directly and include either your Units Nanocom ID code or your units BBS serial number if you have one, rather than just PM me.:thumbsup:

This will produce the fastest possible response for you, as i usually only log into forums after work and sometimes not for days, and also provides enough info for my support staff to send you stuff by return e-mail if required.

hiline

6th March 2011, 06:27 AM

Colin thanks heaps for the units :D

mine seems to be working fine,just need to find out what all the numbers and settings on the car should be .........:angel:

Paul it was also great to meet you in person and hope things pan out well in the future venture........

big thank-you also for your help and service :thumbsup:

pohm66

6th March 2011, 01:52 PM

I was checking out the menu options and noticed that the setting for the SLS had enabled Transport mode which i thought odd.

I now always get the SLS fault alert on the dash... Don't know it is a coincidence but I also replaced the engine mounts yesterday as well.

Anyway disabled it and wrote changes but it always defaults back to transport mode even though the height setting are higher. I start the engine, suspension goes up however when I exit the vehicle is lowers back to the bump stops.

I have tried different options to get it to save but sometimes after the "ignition off and wait 60 seconds" the screen lock up and I have to disconnect the nanocom.

I saved a correct setup to the SD card and when I try to save it it doesn't seem to take.:(

Has anyone got any tricks / clues for me to fix the problem??

Cheers....

harro959

6th March 2011, 01:58 PM

When you open the door and it goes to the stops, is the engine still running?

We can back up the settings to an sd card..... Sweet

pohm66

6th March 2011, 02:18 PM

Hi Harro

Here are the SD settings I try to load but for some reason fails to take

NANOCOM - SLABS.APP - DISCOII SLABS setting file

param;value
Test Status;ENABLED
Transport Mode;DISABLED
ECU Calibrated;YES
Suspension Type;AIR
Left Stored Height;156
Right Stored Height;156

As for engine running no... it holds the manual height without the compressor toping up so no leakage

BBS Guy

7th March 2011, 01:56 AM

Hiya Pohm66

Seems there is a simple bug in the current SLABS software app where the "Transport mode" status is apparently inverted.

So you simply need to set it to "enabled" until we produce the next upgrade ;)

hiline:
Thanks for the coments of appreciation.
I made a recent post here which might help some with figuring out all the data.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/electronic-diagnostics/123940-nanocom-engine-temp-reading.html

pohm66

7th March 2011, 11:02 AM

Thanks for the heads up Colin.....

Will give it a go.....

one_iota

7th March 2011, 01:29 PM

I'm up and running. :)

I received the email with the registration code within minutes early this afternoon.

I've found it to be intuitive to use....even cleared a few fault codes: one, I think, being a hangover from when I blew a rear brake light and another being the dreaded EGR actuator. Hopefully the latter won't reappear.

Thanks Paul and Colin and the rest of you guys for making it happen.

LOVEMYRANGIE

8th March 2011, 05:27 PM

Mine arrived today :)
Registered and had response within minutes!

Sent from my backyard TeePee using smoke signals.

PaulP38a

8th March 2011, 11:06 PM

By my count, approximately half of the group buyers have let me know their Evos have arrived. With the exception of Neil in NZ, who probably has a few days more to wait, all the Aussies should have theirs by today or tomorrow.

If you have recieved your Evo, please let me know either via the forum or e-mail.

BTW: remember to register your Evo at the http://nanocom.it (http://nanocom.it/) site not the Blackbox Solutions site.

Haven't worked out the refunds yet, but will do so soon... still catching up from stuff I didn't do over the weekend (for both Hard Range and my day job) when I caught up with some AULRO folks at Greendale.

Cheers
Paul.

Xtreme

8th March 2011, 11:24 PM

Received last Friday - away for weekend and haven't had time to play with it yet.

Thanks again for the great service Paul

greg-g

9th March 2011, 07:16 AM

Mine arrived last Friday, again I haven't had much of a chance to play with it.
Registration was almost instantaneous, but the codes took longer to enter as I didn't initially realise I had to delete the ?????? marks.
I now have an SD card and will give the set-up a go.
Thanks for your help with the procurement and all the other work.

Basil135

9th March 2011, 12:32 PM

Received mine on Monday. Just picked up a SD card, so now off to play.

Rego codes came back within a couple of mins.

Thanks again to all who organised this group buy.

Now, if we could just have a manual.....

Maybe someone can tell me how to get it to turn on with the car when in instrument mode?

MTB

9th March 2011, 12:52 PM

Basil135

I think all you need to do is press the screen for 5 seconds after you have started the car, that should then bring the screen to live (assuming you have already set instrument pac in the start up mode).