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VladTepes
30th July 2010, 06:56 AM
Never ride in a ute tray video by RustyNQ - Photobucket (http://s827.photobucket.com/albums/zz199/RustyNQ/?action=view&current=pickup_rollover.mp4)

Rangier Rover
30th July 2010, 07:06 AM
:eek::eek: Thats insane.:o Two of those blokes may have been hurt in that.;)

Lostkiwi
30th July 2010, 07:48 AM
:eek::eek: Thats insane.:o Two of those blokes may have been hurt in that.;)


Two hurt or was it Seven:eek: I lost count they were coming out so fast! Maybe if it was a Landie they wouldn't have be going so fast!:D

buddha D2
30th July 2010, 08:04 AM
:eek::eek: Thats insane.:o Two of those blokes may have been hurt in that.;)

:o I'm figuring the guy under the ute (far side of the road) as it came down is 1 dead, the one under the rear as it came to rest as dead or close to it, maybe the one hanging through the rear window as dying....and the others, who knows??? The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me and I have been going to car accidents for many MANY years. :no2::no2::no2:

Xul
30th July 2010, 09:50 AM
Wow... I've travelled in the back of a ute many times in my life and still do it. Never at high speeds or when doing stupid things though.

flyreels
30th July 2010, 11:01 AM
YouTube- Toyota Landcruiser funny jump

austastar
30th July 2010, 11:01 AM
Hi,
as a kid, two families of 2 + 3 kids, we always travelled in the back of an old GMC ute.
There was only room for 4 adults in the cab, so we always travelled under the canvas in the back.
It was an ex army job, with the fold down seats along the sides.
Yep, scary looking back on it.
cheers

It'sNotWorthComplaining!
30th July 2010, 11:08 AM
YouTube- Toyota Landcruiser funny jump (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWsz0S_j2c0)
That's one for funniest home videos, the audience (canned laughter) always laughs at other peoples misfortunes
Schadenfreude

It'sNotWorthComplaining!
30th July 2010, 11:09 AM
Never ride in a ute tray video by RustyNQ - Photobucket (http://s827.photobucket.com/albums/zz199/RustyNQ/?action=view&current=pickup_rollover.mp4)

That's one for the Ute muster Hall of fame.:angel:

DiscoSaffa
30th July 2010, 11:56 AM
The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me and I have been going to car accidents for many MANY years. :no2::no2::no2:

Gotta be careful with statements like that..... looking are where that is, I am assuming it is not in Australia, where we are educated in the consequences of our actions on the road, and if we are not educated, we are legislated. It is not so much stupity, but neccesity and ignorance that result in situations like that, in the parts of the world that these things still occur.


Wow... I've travelled in the back of a ute many times in my life and still do it. Never at high speeds or when doing stupid things though.

we all have...... grew up in a small town and we went everywhere on the back of a ute..... was great fun......... would I do it now? no, would I let my daughters do it? no, but I now know better, and the roads these days are a far more dangerous place than when I was growing up, and utes travel a whole lot faster than they used to...... :(


YouTube- Toyota Landcruiser funny jump (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWsz0S_j2c0)

tell you what, that bloke was lucky the cruiser stopped in it's tracks! :o

d3syd
30th July 2010, 12:05 PM
Wow that is horrible.

Dave_S
31st July 2010, 08:52 AM
I would say that's probably from Central or South America (ie Mexico or further south). People get around in the back of utes or trucks, whatever is available. It's not unusual to see a cattle truck full of farm workers or even school children. The vehicles are always poorly maintained, with brakes and suspension virtually non-functioning. A lot of the cars come in second hand from Japan and only see a spanner if it's necessary to get them moving.

The death toll on roads in that part of the world is horrendous, but most accidents are single vehicle. Almost every corner in mountain regions has a few crosses on it.

In the video the workers have left a wheel barrow on the road. That is not unusual. Often when soil, bricks, cement, etc is delivered to a worksite they drop it on the road, even if it's on a blind corner. Road hazards are only part of the problem. Lots of people believe they drive better when drunk and at night people think it saves fuel to drive with the lights off.

As for the people in the video who were injured, they'll probably have no access to health care and nothing like sick pay. If they don't have savings or relatives willing to support them, they'll probably die.

rockyroad
31st July 2010, 08:53 AM
As a kid I was forever riding around in the back of utes. Was very lucky when I was in the back of a ute once which hit a tree escaping with just some minor cuts and scrapes.

I would be making an educated guess at at least 2 dead with possiblity of a further 2 being pronounced deceased by medical staff.

I cant even count the number of occupants but I doubt there are many places in Australia where the local emergency services could handle such an incident.

Ranga
31st July 2010, 09:23 PM
Never ride in a ute tray video by RustyNQ - Photobucket (http://s827.photobucket.com/albums/zz199/RustyNQ/?action=view&current=pickup_rollover.mp4)

Mate, you really should post a warning for videos like that :eek:

jimbo110
31st July 2010, 09:32 PM
LiveLeak.com - Pickup truck full of people rolls over

Pickup truck full of people rolls over



CLOSE [X] (http://javascript<b></b>://)


Horrible accident captured on camera when a pickup driver carrying a load of people losing control of his vehicle and crashing on a road in Honduras (Central America).

UPDATE: According to a news report a 15 year old girl died due to serious head and internal injuries, at least 11 people were wounded in this accident. All victims were members of the same family and were brought to the hospital. More.. (http://javascript<b></b>://) The pickup driver was speeding and lost control because of "a fault in the highway".





Nasty,nasty,nasty. Can't say that I could see "a fault in the highway" though...............:(

Bigbjorn
1st August 2010, 08:27 AM
We commonly were carried around in the back of utes or on tray trucks. The trucks generally had no sides or gates. Sometimes school forms were tossed on for seating but mostly it was sit on the floor or stand at the headboard and hang on. We were carted around the west on trucks and utes to sports events. Winton to Longreach, Ilfracombe, Barcaldine, Blackall, Muttaburra and return on the staggeringly bad roads of the day. Heat, dust, freezing cold in winter, etc.

My under 15 Rugby League coach had a 1926 Chev. Capitol converted to a buckboard ute and almost the entire team would travel on it. These had only two wheel contracting brakes. Years later I found out that he had lost a wheel once and smashed the left hand brake and never repaired it. So a ute with ten or more passengers, football gear, overnight bags, etc, a load of a ton or more, with only one wheel braking ability. The bliss of ignorance.

chris_mack
1st August 2010, 05:40 PM
amazing how quicklyy some of them get up after. and the one who the ute nearly lands on at the end looks like he/she was actualy in th cab and comes outa the window.

Cap
1st August 2010, 07:42 PM
Getting up right after an accident is normal... adrenalin kicks in and you want to resume life as normal.

On the occasion where I used to fall off my motorbike, I concisely would stay on the ground and start by moving hands/feet first, then limbs and then torso head in case I couldnt feel any breakages due to adrenalin.

Sad accident, especially losing a 15yo due to stupidity.. err Fault in the highway

Disco Denmark
2nd August 2010, 11:03 AM
Stupid things like that also happened in Australia.

Back in the 80's the staff at the Kununara checkpoint used to bet on the number of people you could fit into a landcruiser trayback ute.

The record was 27, 4in the front and the rest standing in the cage on the back.

After a number of serious accidents the rules were changed to prohibit people from riding on the back of utes or trucks.

That explains the number of landcruiser wagons in some communities.

Disco Denmark

JDNSW
2nd August 2010, 11:38 AM
As commented, typical for many third world countries. But it is worth considering that the danger of riding in the back of a ute is not significantly different from riding in an open vehicle (such as a rag top Landrover), particularly without seatbelts, which is perfectly legal to do in Australia if the vehicle predates seat belt legislation. But you very rarely see this sort of accident here - this accident was caused by overloading, excessive speed, and quite likely vehicle defects; the injuries/death as a result were contributed to by passengers being unrestrained and unprotected.

But before we feel too superior about it, remember that there are far too many accidents in this country with similar results (although usually to fewer people) where the advantages of a closed vehicle and passenger restraints, and probably better maintenance, are negated by the much higher speed attained because it is not overloaded. I think of a recent double fatality for example, where the driver was unlicenced, drunk, and the car was stolen.

On a different tack, until I was about eight, the family "car" was a light truck (a Ford T , then a Reo). In the Ford, there was a narrow open sided cab, where obviously mum and dad travelled. The three kids travelled in the back. But the Ford had a top speed of 15mph. The Reo was a lot faster, but we still travelled in the back, although in inclement weather the cab was wide enough for five, albeit pretty cramped.

The Ford had a transmission service brake, with rear wheel parking brake, and the Reo had rear wheel brakes only, actually quite good, considering.

Dmmos
3rd August 2010, 03:23 AM
As commented, typical for many third world countries. But it is worth considering that the danger of riding in the back of a ute is not significantly different from riding in an open vehicle (such as a rag top Landrover), particularly without seatbelts, which is perfectly legal to do in Australia if the vehicle predates seat belt legislation.

Agreed - when I got the series I flirted with the idea of taking the roof off and (trying to) legally remove the seatbelts. I decided though that I wouldn't only be using it on the property and I'd be using it quite a bit on the open road; it's staying in one piece, and I'm considering roll-over protection if the funds are available.

btw - thanks for posting the video; I've watched it 5 times and will be a hell of a lot more careful when I'm next driving :eek:

JDNSW
3rd August 2010, 06:45 AM
Agreed - when I got the series I flirted with the idea of taking the roof off and (trying to) legally remove the seatbelts. I decided though that I wouldn't only be using it on the property and I'd be using it quite a bit on the open road; it's staying in one piece, and I'm considering roll-over protection if the funds are available.

btw - thanks for posting the video; I've watched it 5 times and will be a hell of a lot more careful when I'm next driving :eek:

Actually, Series landrovers are relatively unlikely to roll, due to the low centre of gravity (although a high load can change this), and the fact that the combination of long travel suspension and no sway bars means that usually body roll frightens the driver before anything adverse happens. Of course it is possible to roll them, but it is usually in extreme circumstances such as getting sideways on a steep slope - and as I commented on the video, the accident was due to overloading with a high centre of gravity.

John

disco2hse
3rd August 2010, 07:27 AM
OK I counted what looked like 13 heads, mostly adults (10 in the back and 3 in the front). If they have an average weight of say 90kg, that's around 1170kg of people alone. It's only a Toyota ute so its maximum capacity would be 750kg(?), it was grossly overloaded and it is little wonder, considering the speed it was going when it hit the trough, that it got the speed wobbles. You can almost see it bottom out just before it starts swerving.

A combination of speed and overloading. It is possible the vehicle was also not in top mechanical condition.

BBC
7th August 2010, 02:48 AM
OK I counted what looked like 13 heads, mostly adults (10 in the back and 3 in the front). If they have an average weight of say 90kg, that's around 1170kg of people alone. It's only a Toyota ute so its maximum capacity would be 750kg(?), it was grossly overloaded and it is little wonder, considering the speed it was going when it hit the trough, that it got the speed wobbles. You can almost see it bottom out just before it starts swerving.

A combination of speed and overloading. It is possible the vehicle was also not in top mechanical condition.

Overloaded? Nearly...........

Transport in Mozambique is similar to many developing countries....how many Mozambicans can you fit into a bus or into the back of a truck..? Always one more.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/08/1277.jpg

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The bloke at the front right was concerned about my taking photos of his Chapa...no doubt...like most...unlicensed. The Govt attempts to license these operators but, the demand is so great, it is worth the effort to dodge.

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Overloaded vehicles are a fact of life....and...it is never really full until there is at least one goat on top.

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You can note that this bus is not yet fully packed.....no goat.

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The numerous water containers you see strapped to the back of the bus are for the woman to take off, as she gets off the bus, so she can bring a full container of water back to the house with her.

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You read/hear about the road deaths in Africa, a bus crashes, and many die. I was headed north on the EN1 on the 27th September 00, and I came across a two vehicle accident where a truck had taken out the side of a bus going in the opposite direction. I, and a Mozambican compatriot, were the first vehicle on site, I had UHF comms, and I spent the next 4 hrs doing our best to triage and evacuate the wounded people...7 dead.[/QUOTE]

JDNSW
7th August 2010, 05:48 AM
This sort of overloading (maybe not as extreme) was not uncommon in Australia sixty years ago, and worse before the war. But there was a major difference. Sixty years ago power weight ratios were nowhere near as high, so that overloaded vehicles were necessarily limited to much lower speeds (except down hill - and the brakes were nowhere near as good either!). This is part of the reason why road deaths now are so much lower.

John

Bigbjorn
7th August 2010, 11:14 AM
This sort of overloading (maybe not as extreme) was not uncommon in Australia sixty years ago, and worse before the war. But there was a major difference. Sixty years ago power weight ratios were nowhere near as high, so that overloaded vehicles were necessarily limited to much lower speeds (except down hill - and the brakes were nowhere near as good either!). This is part of the reason why road deaths now are so much lower.

John

I have a number of photos of my families mail and service cars from about 1919 into the early thirties. The number of people squeezed into what were basically five seat touring cars, often nine or more, and the amount of boxes, mail bags, suitcases, spare tyres, water bags tied on the rear rack, running boards, over the mudguards and on top of the bonnet was an eye-opener. With three people sitting in the folding intermediate seats, the top had to be lowered as they sat up too high for the top. Lovely in the heat, dust, flies of a western summer, and the freezing mornings and nights of the winter.