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Shonky
30th July 2010, 03:31 PM
I guess I am safe enough posting this in a forum that is probably ignored by the people who drive such things as Defenders, Discoveries and Range Rovers.
I was just wondering if I am the only one who feels just a modicum of smugness every time a driver of one of those other vehicles has a gripe about a fault in some gadget on their vehicle that we Series owners know is quite unnecessary in the first place?
Should I feel guilty about the fact that I have to resist the urge to post some biting comment in response every time one of them has a problem with their wind-up windows, their adjustable seats, their trip meter, their AM/FM Radio, their built in Casette Player, their power steering or their full synchromesh gearboxes?
Defender Owners - Does anyone else feel smug? (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/110110-anyone-else-feel-smug.html)
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Lotz-A-Landies
30th July 2010, 03:37 PM
I guess I am safe enough posting this in a forum that is probably ignored by the people who drive such things as Defenders, Discoveries and Range Rovers.
I was just wondering if I am the only one who feels just a modicum of smugness every time a driver of one of those other vehicles has a gripe about a fault in some gadget on their vehicle that we Series owners know is quite unnecessary in the first place?
Should I feel guilty about the fact that I have to resist the urge to post some biting comment in response every time one of them has a problem with their wind-up windows, their adjustable seats, their trip meter, their AM/FM Radio, their built in Casette Player, their power steering or their full synchromesh gearboxes?
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I'll have you know that (some of) my Series Land Rovers have trip meters, adjustable seats, am/fm radios with cassette players and synchromesh gearboxes. all apart from the radio stuff were OEM. :D ;)
isuzutoo-eh
30th July 2010, 03:45 PM
Ummm...Ambrose had a stereo when you bought him, correct?
 Also, series seats are adjustable, you can have a cushion, no cushion for the tall poppies, or lots of cushions for the short ****s.
vnx205
30th July 2010, 04:49 PM
I guess I am safe enough posting this in a forum that is probably ignored by the people who drive such things as Defenders, Discoveries and Range Rovers.
I was just wondering if I am the only one who feels just a modicum of smugness every time a driver of one of those other vehicles has a gripe about a fault in some gadget on their vehicle that we Series owners know is quite unnecessary in the first place?
Should I feel guilty about the fact that I have to resist the urge to post some biting comment in response every time one of them has a problem with their wind-up windows, their adjustable seats, their trip meter, their AM/FM Radio, their built in Casette Player, their power steering or their full synchromesh gearboxes?
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I can't argue with that.
I spent 23 years driving the same Series III LWB and I used to feel even more smug then because I knew that with just a basic understanding of the way an internal combustion engine worked, it was possible for me to solve almost any problem that might occur.  If it had fuel and it had spark, it should run.
I never really got much chance to test my theory though because it almost never failed to proceed. :D
I felt especially smug when I learned on return from my trip to Broome that my work colleagues were running a book on how far I would get before my 26 year old Land Rover broke down.  The only thing that broke on the whole trip up the Oodnadatta Track, the Tanami and the Gibb River Road was the spring in the door latch on the passenger's side.  A spring from Bunnings fixed that.
Seriestwo
31st July 2010, 03:15 PM
I also have felt smug at times. I was at my grand parents farm and we were taking a 4x4 club through the next door neighbors property. I was driving my dads (now mine) series 2 88 with the 2l engine, and the others were driving 80series cruisers and discos and there were a few patrols and pathfinders. We were climbing the hill between the 2 paddocks when the lead car got stuck half way up, no other car could make it up around the car to tow it out of the ditch it was stuck in. So when I said that I will give it a go I heard lots of chuckles and one said i bet he cant even make it half way to the cruiser. Well I drove up and around the cruiser across his slide marks and over all the slide marks from all the other cars that tried. then I pulled up on the hill and attached the snatch. I then got back in and continued to drive up the hill towing an 80 series cruiser out of his rut up a hill. When we got up the top I unhooked and drove back down the hill and promptly asked "who's next" . To be honest I wasn't sure that the landy could do but when it did, I may have rubbed it in very smugly.
I have told this story a few times and I get "yeah sure" and "I highly doubt it", but I am not pulling your leg, it actually happened and I showed a group of people that day what a real 4x4 is.
Johnno1969
13th August 2010, 10:19 PM
I also have felt smug at times. I was at my grand parents farm and we were taking a 4x4 club through the next door neighbors property. I was driving my dads (now mine) series 2 88 with the 2l engine, and the others were driving 80series cruisers and discos and there were a few patrols and pathfinders. We were climbing the hill between the 2 paddocks when the lead car got stuck half way up, no other car could make it up around the car to tow it out of the ditch it was stuck in. So when I said that I will give it a go I heard lots of chuckles and one said i bet he cant even make it half way to the cruiser. Well I drove up and around the cruiser across his slide marks and over all the slide marks from all the other cars that tried. then I pulled up on the hill and attached the snatch. I then got back in and continued to drive up the hill towing an 80 series cruiser out of his rut up a hill. When we got up the top I unhooked and drove back down the hill and promptly asked "who's next" . To be honest I wasn't sure that the landy could do but when it did, I may have rubbed it in very smugly.
I have told this story a few times and I get "yeah sure" and "I highly doubt it", but I am not pulling your leg, it actually happened and I showed a group of people that day what a real 4x4 is.
Yep, stories like this abound....and most of them are probably true. I've often been amazed (though not too surprised) seeing an old Landy get traction and putter on while other big-noise vehicles sit bogged in its humble wake. All good fun.
JDNSW
14th August 2010, 05:42 AM
Not surprising, although in many of these cases it is the driver - a lot of drivers of "big-noise" four wheel drives either don't understand that spinning the wheels is rarely helpful, or are not sufficiently skillful on the throttle to avoid wheelspin (the more power, the more skill needed).  And in the example given, local knowledge, even if subconscious, may have played a part.  And the lighter weight is likely to have helped as well.
John
p38arover
14th August 2010, 07:09 AM
Andrew, you forgot to include heater.
Johnno1969
14th August 2010, 08:16 AM
Not surprising, although in many of these cases it is the driver - a lot of drivers of "big-noise" four wheel drives either don't understand that spinning the wheels is rarely helpful, or are not sufficiently skillful on the throttle to avoid wheelspin (the more power, the more skill needed).  And in the example given, local knowledge, even if subconscious, may have played a part.  And the lighter weight is likely to have helped as well.
John
All very true. Certainly the driver either makes it stop or go at the end of the day.
Scouse
14th August 2010, 09:07 PM
I guess I am safe enough posting this in a forum that is probably ignored by the people who drive such things as Defenders, Discoveries and Range Rovers.
I was just wondering if I am the only one who feels just a modicum of smugness every time a driver of one of those other vehicles has a gripe about a fault in some gadget on their vehicle that we Series owners know is quite unnecessary in the first place?
Should I mention here that I've had to tow more Series Land Rovers than Defenders behind my Range Rover?
More specifically, YOUR Series !!
:p
GSKeeper
15th August 2010, 11:28 AM
This post could't have come at a better time.
 
I am just in the process of selling my Ford RTV (a good allrounder except for the seating capacity) The only 4x4's i have ever owned are series 2A Land Rovers (currently 1963 2A 88 that has never let me down), so naturally I,ve been looking at Discoveries as a replacement for the RTV.
 
Well trolling the Discovery forum has just about done my head in..........:(
It seem the amount of things that can go wrong and the cost of repairs is unlimited.
 
I think I'm just gonna keep driving the 2A 88 as a daily driver for a while and worry about a replcement vehicle down the track.  Maybe not even a 4x4 and just leave that for the series Landy.
 
If well maintained and looked after, the series Land Rovers are reliable, predictable, relative cheap and easy to work on.
 
Long live the series Land Rover........
 
Cheers
 
Ben
chazza
15th August 2010, 01:07 PM
Couldn't agree more Ben; however; the same can be said for the Disco 1. 
I have had a good run from mine for 160 000km now :D Regular servicing and maintenance make Land Rovers as reliable as any other car,
Cheers Charlie
SIImad
15th August 2010, 01:42 PM
It's hard to be humble when you own a "Series" Landy! :p
AJ
Stuck
15th August 2010, 04:51 PM
I'm hearin' ya. Started out with a Holden powered Series 3 which had seen a hard life but a bit of TLC/bush mechanics seen it through 3 years for me. Stage One ute, routine maintenance only, not even a light bulb, for 4 years. 1993 Tdi Disco, Power steering pump, idler pulley, rear suspension upper ball joint x2 and about 5 rebiulds, give or take, of the Magnet Marelli alternator over 9 years. I've now got a 2000 Td5 Disco and I know the many heartaches will arrive, it's just a question of when.
Cheers,
Anthony.
p.s. You wont get a sagging hoodling in a series like the one in my D2 either and your keys are well and truly immune from shedding their buttons plus they'll still work after being dropped in the drink.
GSKeeper
16th August 2010, 07:05 AM
I must admit I have only been looking at/reaserching D2's.... I'll have a look at the D1's....cheaper, simpler. 
 
Then it will be a question of petrol or diesel??
 
Really a disco thread I spose....;)
 
Cheers
 
Ben
RaggedJoe
16th August 2010, 08:23 AM
My father-in -law bought our Serries III brand new in 1976.  Still have it and still going strong.  We have had a Disco 1 and 2 x Disco 2's,  Never again is all I will say.
SIImad
16th August 2010, 05:45 PM
My father-in -law bought our Serries III brand new in 1976.  Still have it and still going strong.  We have had a Disco 1 and 2 x Disco 2's,  Never again is all I will say.
My late father brought our SIII when it was new also (1976 or 77), and its still going strong. They were definitely built to last.:D
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