Wots been Happening in 101 World

[101RRS]

Well its been almost a month since anything has been posted in this section.

So whats been happening in FC world? Not much with my 101 - need to replace the water pump but it doesn't seem to lose coolant when running, only when cooling down.

I went for a run up in the Brindies last week and got caught in a deep clay rut and had to use the winch on myself for the first time (not with your cable Ron). That went well but I put the handbrake on and forgot to take it off so it looks like I have burnt out the shoes - thought the smell was the brakes drying out.

The electronic ignition is working well and starts first go on LPG even on a -3 morning. Starting cold on petrol is still a bit hit and miss but a shot of LPG from the LPG cold start button gets it going.

So what has been happening with your 101 or FC?

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

Nuf'n.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

You'se lot have tickets on yourselves. 101 World! Ha

There aren't even enough 101s to fill a small city! :D

Diana :p

[101RRS]

Nuf'n.

Oh - come - how many 101s have you got? 3? Something must have happened - sort out your engine numbers with rego authorities?

[101RRS]

There aren't even enough 101s to fill a small city! :D

Diana :p

But I heard that you did have enough Landies to fill a small city but none of them work:D

Whats been happening on your FC front??

[Lotz-A-Landies]

But I heard that you did have enough Landies to fill a small city but none of them work:DThat's blatantly untrue, The '91 RRc is running fine and has returned from a medium-term loan to another enthusiast, while his SIII-FFR had a gearbox repair.
The '85 RRc just drove down to Melbourne and back and I have it in the carpark at work today.
The SIII FFR is sitting at home waiting for something to do or some place to go!
The Mk3 is Registered and waiting.What about your S1 station wagon!
Whats been happening on your FC front??In SIIB district

I have had new front brake hoses made up this morning to finish fitting the hybridised CV front end.

I have purchased a new Bearmach raised air intake to move the silly plastic concertina tube air ram from the drivers eardrum up to the "A" pillar. A new Donaldson is on the way and I now have an adapter to fit to the carby to direct everything the correct way.

Once the front wheels are back on I'll be heading down the back to remove the rear springs and have them either re-set or replaced with uprated leaves to carry the weight of the body.

The Civvy SIIB "Capt Pneumo" was out in the paddock a couple of weeks ago and the other two SIIB are just waiting for the person who wants to buy them has the money.

[Mick_Marsh]

Oh - come - how many 101s have you got? 3? Something must have happened - sort out your engine numbers with rego authorities?
Two, but a third would be a good idea.
I haven't been to SA since. Hopefully this summer. I'll give it another go then.
It's not as if I've been doing nothing. It's just that nothing has been done on the 101's.
Of course I've been working hard at the day job (that's my story and I'm sticking to it).
Unfortunately I'm out of storage. Many suggestions have been made to solve the problem usually involving demolition of the house and living in the vehicles. I'm currently working on getting some land and erecting a large workshop with a two post hoist, rigid frame for the chain block and lots of work space.
The SIII has taken a slice of the time and budget but the Finnie has taken most of the available resources. It's getting a new drag link next weekend.
If all goes to current plan, all my babies will be in their new nursery by Easter next year.

[Mick_Marsh]

You'se lot have tickets on yourselves. 101 World! Ha

There aren't even enough 101s to fill a small city! :D

Diana :p
I live in a small city and the neighbours reckon two 101's are two too many.

[101RRS]

That's blatantly untrue,

The '91 RRc is running fine and has returned from a medium-term loan to another enthusiast, while his SIII-FFR had a gearbox repair.
The '85 RRc just drove down to Melbourne and back and I have it in the carpark at work today.
The SIII FFR is sitting at home waiting for something to do or some place to go!
The Mk3 is Registered and waiting.



So to this list we need to add the FCs, the trailers and what happened to the series 1s.;)

[101RRS]

What about your S1 station wagon!



but the Finnie has taken most of the available resources. It's getting a new drag link next weekend.


I know the problem of too many projects. I need to do a few more things on the 101, then the E-Type needs to be completed - that will take a lot of $$$$$$ - then the Station Wagon.

Then no more projects for me.

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

So to this list we need to add the FCs, the trailers and what happened to the series 1s.;)Firstly you claimed None of them work!

Did you not read, Capt Pneumo was out in the paddock a couple of weeks ago, and the other 2 of them are waiting for the buyer to come up with the money.

Remember not too many months ago, Gog drove up from Tasmania, he can't go anywhere ATM because his front brakes are off and I only today picked (had made) up new brake hoses. If I finish the brake work, I could probably drive him tomorrow afternoon.

There are now only 2 series 1's and I'm bored with 80" at the moment, but I'm happy for you to come over and paint Bemboka and then he too can have his body fitted and go for a drive, his running gear is all assembled just waiting for a body.

[101RRS]

Was just noting that these were not on your list - but in the narrative - though looking back over things it is a list of operational landies.

The station wagon will start and will move under its own power - does that count?:D

I still haven't located any other swb station wagons other than one each in SA, Vic, Sydney, and SE Qld and mine. (Tickfords not included)

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Was just noting that these were not on your list - but in the narrative - though looking back over things it is a list of operational landies.

The station wagon will start and will move under its own power - does that count?:D

<snip>Yes it does count. The statement was "work" not "registered", but I do have 3 currently registered Landies and a Mk3 International.

[101 Ron]

Hi everyone.
I have been quiet because of internet problems and will be for some time.
I have some good vid of my 101 in action , but cannot post it currently.
This weekend is another one with the local 4wd club at the family farm, and it looks like a wet one.
I have been chasing electrical problems in my 101 for some time as the wiring was much changed by a previous owner and done poorly.
After 4 years of owning the vehicle I finally found the thing had fuses in the non standard wiring hidden away behind a non standard panel that takes alot of work to remove........a not very clever idea.
Next weekend I will be going to abercombie national pk for the AMVCS winter rallie ?
I have heard very little abut it this year and believe numbers will be down because of back too the track is on too.
I will go regard less as I like the area and the run.
Ron

[101 Ron]

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[iain reed]

hi all very quite in 101 world , took the wife and kids to lake eyre and the flinders in the 89 rr much fun .. it rained of course as i was camping.will try to get weekend off for the obereon run what are the details again ron ?:)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

<snip>
Next weekend I will be going to Abercombie National Pk for the AMVCS winter rallie ?
I have heard very little abut it this year and believe numbers will be down because of back too the track is on too.
I will go regard less as I like the area and the run.
RonThe LROC hasn't been invited this year and in view of Eastern Creek Classic issues I'm pretty sure we won't be invited. :(

[iain reed]

oh yeah thought the date rang a bell
hope to see you there!!!!

[PeterP]

Well its been almost a month since anything has been posted in this section.
So whats been happening in FC world?
I'va managed to do a bit. Have got the winch fitted with the new cable and all is working well.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/07/49.jpg

Also got the other defender seat fitted. Even though the base of the passenger seat if a different colour they fit and work well and they were freebies from a parenties.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/07/50.jpg

The rear towbar was an issue as the pintal hook was to low for the trailer but thats been sorted also.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/07/51.jpg
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Just need some decent tyres and a paint job and it will be ready for its maiden voyage.

Also been looking at the trailer, see separate post.

CanDo web site - Peter's Photo Directory (http://users.comcen.com.au/~peterp/101index.html)
Cheers,
Peter

[iain reed]

looks great peter well done !!!!

[101 Ron]

The LROC hasn't been invited this year and in view of Eastern Creek Classic issues I'm pretty sure we won't be invited. :(

I am in Nowra and dont know whats going on too much in the old army vehicle world , especially with politics.
It is my understanding the LROC was going this year if they wanted too.
The last AMVCS club news letter had incorrect dates in it.
I understand the winter rallie is on for this next weekend as per last year.
A rallie to Warren Browns property is on for the weekend after at Crookwell too.
I will be taking a friend from the Shoalhaven 4wd club on the winter rallie as well.
What was the problem at Eastern CK ?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I am in Nowra and dont know whats going on too much in the old army vehicle world , especially with politics.
It is my understanding the LROC was going this year if they wanted too.
<snip>
What was the problem at Eastern CK ?No invitation for LROC to AMVCS Winter Rally has been forthcoming yet. In that light, it's suffice to say that I won't be attending.

As for ECC, you need to get that information from AMVCS. (or Offline)

[101 Ron]

Only a small number this year.(back to the track is on at the same time)
At least one LROC member and vehicle made it.
Three 101 landies made the show.
Dates for this run was only set a week before it happen for various reasons.
My internet is only running at dail up speed,,,,I will try and post pics

[101 Ron]

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Sorry Garry...:D:D:D:D:D:D:o
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[101RRS]

:eek2: :mad:

[drifter]

:D:D:D:D not his best side :eek::eek::eek::eek:

[101 Ron]

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[101 Ron]

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[101 Ron]

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[101 Ron]

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[101 Ron]

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[101 Ron]

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[101 Ron]

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[101 Ron]

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[101RRS]

Some more pics:

Black Springs
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Camping/100_0846.jpg

Ron's and Iain's 101s
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Iain's 101
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Camping at the Beach in Abercrombie NP
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Ron coming out of the Water (click to watch the video)
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Camping/th_100_0851.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Camping/?action=view&current=100_0851.mp4)

[iain reed]

great pics ... much fun had by all thanks to ron and garry and the team
will try to get some pics up soon :):):)

[101RRS]

And thanks for the tow and use of the shovel.

Garry

[iain reed]

more pics

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Thanks guys looks like the troops present had a good time, perhaps the name should be changed from the Winter Rally to the 101 reunion.

Wish I could have come along, but I was assisting a friend move. Moved at least 5 ton of assorted bits including Larkspur radios and other ex-army paraphenalia including an 88" so the trip would have been much more interesting. :)

Iain - I love the black and white tac plate! :D

Diana

[iain reed]

thanks for that
i remember that you have lots of friends when you have a van ( or was that share house days ):)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

thanks for that
i remember that you have lots of friends when you have a van ( or was that share house days ):)I don't think it is just share house days and a van, its also when you have a big trailer.

You would have enjoyed doing the move, a couple of three pedestal bases for Zeiss 35/70mm projector lamp houses, good I didn't have to move the Super Troopers as well!

[iain reed]

cool have not seen those since the old days in the hordern
did you need a crane to move them ?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

cool have not seen those since the old days in the Hordern
did you need a crane to move them ?No I/we didn't need to move the Troopers, just the projector pedestals with cast iron bases and platforms, and yes the "crane" on the trailer was used.

[Mick_Marsh]

Thanks for this thread Gary.
Great photo's of the 101's at play. Ron's fording the river sounded great.
It inspired me to do something. I put a new brake fluid reservoir in 30-248. It then started raining, so I went home. (30-248 is stored in a friends mothers back yard.)
I noticed there was brake fluid around the front R/H hub, so I'll probably get some new brake cylinders from AJ's (http://www.101spares.com) on my way back from Dandenong in a couple of weeks time.
I might do another job tomorrow.

[101RRS]

Yeah - everyone had gone quiet so I thought I would post a thread basically about nothing in the hope that something would pop up.

So everyone - even if you haven't been doing much post up in new threads what you have been up to so we can all learn something - hey I learned that the water pump belt is 950mm long :).

I put my 12v alternator back in after a bearing failure and it don't work - might pull it back out tomorrow and go to work with the multimeter to try and find the fault. I have a bosch alternator off my spare series 1 engine and while the casing is different the armature looks to be almost the same - so I might try it in my casing before buying a new one - $120 on ebay (40A) or I could go a nice chrome GM (100A) one for about $150 ebay.

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Garry

Why don't you take the OEM alternator to your local auto sparkie, there is likely to be a Bosch replacement for it. My Rangies all have Bosch 85 Amp fitted in place of the OEM Lucas 55Amps, the Bosch are far more reliable. In fact the alternators are the same arrangement as the 85 Amp I recently upgraded on my FFR - it's the standard unit for Holden Red/Black/Blue 6cyls. Paid about $240 trade price at my local Repco, so likely to be cheaper options.

I am going to standardise on the same 85 Amp Bosch on all my vehicles even if I have to modify the mounts to do it. A failed alternator on Good Friday was the reason that I missed the LR 60th, so now I have a reconditioned spare in the garage waiting for the next failure.

Diana

[101RRS]

Hi Diana - this is not an OEM alternator - I have the main OEM 24v alternator that is huge and sits on top of the engine but the previous owner had also fitted a Bosch 12v 40Amp alternator (seems to be out of a Sigma GE) on a home made bracket on the bottom passenger side of the engine. This is to provide 12v power and charge the deep cycle battery. This is the one that failed. I was going to get another from the wreckers but a friendly Toyota driver said I might just get a dud - so I bought new bits - I think I wrecked the slip rings when I cleaned them up - again on advice of the toyota driver.

Anyway - I have subsequently gone to the wreckers and bought a newly reconditioned 60Amp Bosch out of a Cortina for $50 so it is going in. As a bonus it uses the same bearings and regulator/brushes that I already have so I will keep them as a spare.

One thing I want to do it rig up a charging light so I need to do some research to get a wiring diagram to see how to rig it up. As the same belt runs the water pump - a charging light coming on will let me know if a have a belt failure before the engine gets hot due to the water pump not turning.

Cheers

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

Rather than a charge light, why don't you put in a 12V voltmeter? Tells you more. The charge light only glows if there is a difference between the voltage of the battery and the voltage of the alternator/generator.

[101RRS]

I have a voltmeter - if the alternator fails it then just reads the voltage from the battery and with a large deep cycle that is fully charged it takes a long time for the voltmeter to indicate the alternator has failed.

The voltmeter is good for measuring what is going on with the battery but in the short term not the alternator - an amp meter or a light is better - I have no room for another gauge at the moment so it needs to be a light. Later when I get working water temp/oil temp gauges in the standard land rover cluster I will have a spot for an amp gauge but a light still catches your attention quicker.

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

<snip>
One thing I want to do it rig up a charging light so I need to do some research to get a wiring diagram to see how to rig it up. As the same belt runs the water pump - a charging light coming on will let me know if a have a belt failure before the engine gets hot due to the water pump not turning.

Cheers
GarryGarry

AFAIK all the internally regulated Bosch use the B+ post for the battery cables and the D+ is the terminal for the exciter (charge warning lamp) basically Ign+ to the lamp then from the other side of the lamp to the D+ on the alternator.

In your application I would use a 24V continuous duty (normally open) headlamp relay in the circuit. The coil (switch) side is (85 see below) to the IGN+ and (86) chassis ground on the 24V side and the contacts are (30) +ve from the secondary 12V battery and the (87) terminal mimics IGN+ on the secondary battery. This you can use (87) for a feed to the warning lamp circuit on your 12V Bosch alternator, a 12V radio etc and if you ever need to use a 12V coil/distributor again you have the IGN feed. (Without having to add a switch for the coil.)

Diana

i.e. NARVA 68040
http://www.narva.com.au/products/browse/normal-open-4-5

85 = 24V IGN+
86 = chassis ground
30 = +ve from secondary 12V Batt
87 = Secondary IGN - to 12V warning lamp \~/ to D+ on alternator.
87 = Spare 12V IGN+ radio etc (although you may wish the radio to work when the vehicle is in ACC+)

[101 Ron]

A bigger altenater a deep cycle battery is not really a good thing in Garrys application as it is for a battery running a fridge and other 12 volt applications , like a radio.
A deep cycle battery likes a slower charge rate and a altenator likes some sort of load, which it will have little of once the deep cycle battery is charged.
The altenator will not work until it is excited via indicator light globe ( 24 volt ) via the ignition switch.
The relay Diana indicated is not really nessary.
The up shot of this is if you use the 60 amp altenator, it is not a ideal system.
Bigger altenators like bigger continous loads.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

A bigger altenater a deep cycle battery is not really a good thing in Garrys <snip> < O.K can accept that >
The altenator will not work until it is excited via indicator light globe ( 24 volt ) via the ignition switch. <Absolutely correct, and I was wondering where the second alternator was getting it's exciter current!>
The relay Diana indicated is not really nessary. <see below>
The up shot of this is if you use the 60 amp altenator, it is not a ideal system.
Bigger altenators like bigger continous loads.Not sure I can agree with you about the 24V exciter current powering up a secondary 12V system.

The use of the relay is to electrically isolate both systems otherwise you have the 24V and 12V systems electrically connected.

Using a relay is also what the Australian Army does in it's 12V/24V SIII FFR.

[101RRS]

Diana - thanks for the wiring information. I changed over the 24v ignition system to a 12v one a few weeks back and already have the relay in place working on switched 24v to activate 12v for the ignition so I can just take a 12v lead from there to a 12v ignition light and then back to the alternator. Just wasn't sure where it had to go on the alternator.

At the moment the 24v (90amp) system charges two 12v 600cca starter batteries, the starter, lights, wipers, washers, fuel pump, instruments and switching relays for the 12v system. The 12v system (now 60amp) charges the dual purpose 105 Ah deep cycle/starter battery, the LPG system, trailer lights, radios, and anything connected like fridge, camp lighting, phone, laptop etc - it will also run my spare portable 15,000ib electric winch if I were to carry it.

It sounds all convoluted but it is a really simple solution that works well. I also carry an electronic 30amp 24v - 12v converter just in case the 12v system crashes and if the 24v system crashes I can play around with the 12v connections to give 24v with the aid of a portable power pack and a crank starter when I make it if needed.

I researched either changing over to 12v completely or having a 12v charger but it is not simple to simply pull the lot out - likewise a 12v charger with high enough amps to cover all scenarios is very expensive. So I have stayed with what was there as it does work well.

Thanks for all the comments

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Garry

Sounds like you have it all in hand! :)

Diana

[101RRS]

Not sure I can agree with you about the 24V exciter current powering up a secondary 12V system.

The use of the relay is to electrically isolate both systems otherwise you have the 24V and 12V systems electrically connected.

Using a relay is also what the Australian Army does in it's 12V/24V SIII FFR.

The alternator has the main cable going from the main connector to the battery. It also has a second wire on this main connector going somewhere - not sure where. There is no exciter on a seperate connector to D+. As the LPG does still work with the engine running and the secondary 12v battery removed, I assume 12v exciter for the 12v alternator comes from one of the starter batteries (2x12v in series) - the current required to excite the alternator is quite small so will not upset the charge levels of the two starter batteries.

If it stops raining tomorrow - I will see what is happening and find out where the excitement is coming from. Maybe the alternator gets its excitement from just one wire - I will investigate.

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Too much excitement is not good! :D

Seeing that you have the two systems, it may be an opportune time to separate everything so that all 12V equipment works off the one 12V system and all 24V stuff off the 24V. Otherwise it all starts getting too confusing which of the three 12V batteries is running which 12V item.

As they say: Make it simple stupid! - Not suggesting that you are, but knowing that you have inherited the setup from the previous owner. (Although as I understand it, the 24V 101 has a number of functions that are 12V standard, like the fuel guage and sender. This may be the source of the LPG and 12V exciter current.) )

[iain reed]

good advice di
be careful or it could end in tears , dont let the smoke out garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Someone else expert in AC power generation may have to answer this for us. however I believe that the alternator initially needs an exciter current to the field to generate AC, which is then rectified into DC. If there is no exciter current, the globe blows or the wire disconnects, some alternators will self excite once they reach a certain speed.

This may be the reason your alternator has been working up to now without the exciter wire, however using the exciter/lamp circuit makes the generation more efficient, particularly at low revs.

[iain reed]

yes that is right .. the alternator needs a dc voltage to activate
i had a duel system on my old 6 tonner it worked fine ran a lead from 12 v positive teminal and a switch worked for years no dramas :)

[101RRS]

Someone else expert in AC power generation may have to answer this for us. however I believe that the alternator initially needs an exciter current to the field to generate AC, which is then rectified into DC. If there is no exciter current, the globe blows or the wire disconnects, some alternators will self excite once they reach a certain speed.

This may be the reason your alternator has been working up to now without the exciter wire, however using the exciter/lamp circuit makes the generation more efficient, particularly at low revs.

But some alternators are self exciting on one wire - ie the one wire that connects the alt to the battery - as I understand these the alternator has in effect an internal relay that does not allow 12v power into it and drain the battery when the engine is stopped. When the engine is started, the alternator triggers the relay and allows power in to excite the coils and the alternator then generates power which then runs back up the one cable to the battery.

Anyway - I will connect the light as suggested and will see what happens.

Iain - you fixed that fuel leak yet?

Garry

[bee utey]

Some alternators will self-excite from residual magnetism, although this is quite rare. The diodes fitted to alternators usually require much more voltage to conduct than is available from residual magnetism. So the small amount of current from the warning lamp is the only reliable way of starting an alternator which is designed this way. Many years ago Valiants used to feed their external regulators from the ignition switch so no excitation globe current was needed. I haven't seen another alternator like this for aeons.

[iain reed]

on the case with that one only have a 1/2 hour window a day gone pvc pluming stuff so far so good problem running out of room under there
as all 101 and landy stuff the little jobs take forever learning new plumbing skills will let you know could be good for you driving trucks to melb on sunday hope to have it ready for all british day good luck with the electrics
:):):)

[101 Ron]

Not sure I can agree with you about the 24V exciter current powering up a secondary 12V system.

The use of the relay is to electrically isolate both systems otherwise you have the 24V and 12V systems electrically connected.

Using a relay is also what the Australian Army does in it's 12V/24V SIII FFR.

Using a 24 volt globe on the indicator light from a 24 volt supply which has a higher resistance than a 12 volt globe which excites the altenator gives the same effect as it would a 12 volt supply.
the two systems would still be isolated as we are only talking about the current to excite the altenater.
A relay can be used, but in a post above....keep it simple ?
If the altenator which Garry was using had a voltage sensing wire needing to go back to the battery or ignition, it would be a different story.
The standard older type Bosch with internal reg should have a main out put terminal and then a male spade connection L for exciter supply from ignition though a globe.


D+ connection is used on very old bosch altenaters which use a external reg.and the other end of that external reg is connected to igntion.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

<snip>
D+ connection is used on very old bosch altenaters which use a external reg.and the other end of that external reg is connected to igntion.The D+ terminal is/was present on the brand new internally regulated Bosch 85A alternator I purchased three weeks ago.

Although I will admit it is the type for Holden red/blue/black straight sixes through to the 1990's.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/08/639.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/08/640.jpg
70 Amp BXH1238A Bosch ------------- 55 Amp BXH1236A Bosch (both internally regulated)

Garry just found a little bit of info you may be interested in: 2 Watt Bulb: The warning light used with Bosch Alternators should not exceed 2 Watts.

In the schematic below the internally regulated terminal "Ind" is synonymous with "D+" on the images above.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/08/641.jpg

[101RRS]

Thanks for that Diana - great stuff.

I did some checking today - the main power lead as expected goes direct from the alternator to the battery with no diversions. As I indicated there is a second smaller lead that also comes off the same point on the alternator but it does not go to any relay or the 24v battery pack but it also just goes back to the +ive side of the 12v battery along with the main heavy cable.

So there is no external exciter to my old alternator - so it must have been self exciting as it did work. I now wonder if the internal regulator had some part in this as when I replaced the internal regulator with a new one the alternator did not work.

Anyway that is old information now. When I put in my new alternator I will only connect the high amp cable direct to the battery. I will take 12v from a spare terminal on the relay that provides power to the ignition and send it to a 2w light and then back to D+ on the alternator.

Cheers

Garry

[101RRS]

Weather has been crap for the last few weeks but I did manage to put in the new alternator today - I had to modify the home made bracket that took a little while.

I rigged up a light off the ignition system relay and all works well - volt meter shows 14v and light goes out with a little revs.

I still have no idea how the old alternator coils were being excited. It was a Bosch alternator off a sigma and should have been excited by a dedicated 12v lead but it did not have one (I have searched in case I have missed something). The only cables to it were from the battery and to the main connector on the alt.

Anyway - I have the alt in and have the ignition light I was after. Thanks to everyone for your help.

Cheers

Garry

[DODGE]

Gday all

Thought it was about time i added something to this thread.
have fitted the locker to the rear diff, straps and tools to the front, as i cant find a pintle at the moment ive fitted a hook that came from another landy. also my son fitted a gun for protection.:). also picked up 4x alliance 9.00/16 tyres for $60 the lot:eek:. as u can imagine im still getting over the shock.
Cheers gaz

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Wow what a great price on the tyres! Bet you are pleased?

Do you now need a Police Commissioner's prohibited weapons licence for the toy machine gun? :(

[101RRS]

Gday all

as i cant find a pintle at the moment ive fitted a hook that came from another landy.

There are some light weight bolts that hold on the front bumper/cross member so I would ensure that none are corroded before you used the hook.


also picked up 4x alliance 9.00/16 tyres for $60 the lot:eek:. as u can imagine im still getting over the shock.
Cheers gaz

Why don't things like that happen to me - you lucky bugger. Where did you get them.

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

Gday all

Thought it was about time i added something to this thread.
have fitted the locker to the rear diff, straps and tools to the front, as i cant find a pintle at the moment ive fitted a hook that came from another landy. also my son fitted a gun for protection.:). also picked up 4x alliance 9.00/16 tyres for $60 the lot:eek:. as u can imagine im still getting over the shock.
Cheers gaz
For some strange reason, I find pintles often. How much is your budget and I'll let you know when I find one.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

For some strange reason, I find pintles often. How much is your budget and I'll let you know when I find one. :spudnikwaving: Pick me, pick me!

Diana :)
(I need one with the rotate lock still in place 1C$ to 1.5C$.)

[Mick_Marsh]

:spudnikwaving: Pick me, pick me!

Diana :)
(I need one with the rotate lock still in place 1C$ to 1.5C$.)
The locking bit might be a bit of an ask but I'm on it.
The locked one I do have is ex-telstra. I bought it for the Commodore. I assume you want an ex-military one.

[DODGE]

Gday all

Have been pulled over a few times now by the police when im out and about. luckily its only because they want to have a look and ask plenty of questions.its funny none of them have said anything about the toy gun which is surprising. i was on gumtree thismorning and found a add selling series parts and the tyres were listed, i thought it was a mistake so rang to check and was told they were 9.00/16 so was over in a flash. i think ive used up all my luck for the year now. i even beat stuart/ tommy k to them which is even more amazing!. Im in no rush for a pintle as im sure one will turn up, WA is a bit dry when it comes to military landies compared to you guys/girls over east. we just seem to have plenty of LRPVs:D.

Gaz

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The locking bit might be a bit of an ask but I'm on it.
The locked one I do have is ex-telstra. I bought it for the Commodore. I assume you want an ex-military one.Yes I need one or the rotating ones for my FFW and I have trailers that have both rotating and locked lunettes.

It is such a hassle to remove the fixed one and fit a rotating one when you swap trailers.