springs for defer wagon

[trailcutter]

seeking advice re springs 2010 defer wagon
today fitted arb bar,,mulgo steps/bumperettes,,,front has dropped 10mm or so expect it to settle a touch more with miles on it........wish to level out vehicle and reclaim 10+ mm of front travel..........

has anyone fitted a set of 130 front springs (current ) on to a 110 wagon.......were there any issues ,,,,

was a spring compressor required

was there an increase in static height...i,m assuming not,,,,,,,,

is there data that indicates the actual spring rates .......110,,,,,,,,,,,,,,130...

any opinions appreciated ,,,,,,,,cheers

[Benny_IIA]

seeking advice re springs 2010 defer wagon
today fitted arb bar,,mulgo steps/bumperettes,,,front has dropped 10mm or so expect it to settle a touch more with miles on it........wish to level out vehicle and reclaim 10+ mm of front travel..........

You will not "reclaim" travel just bump stop height., travel is set by the lenght of the shock/binding point of the suspension links

has anyone fitted a set of 130 front springs (current ) on to a 110 wagon.......were there any issues ,,,,

Lots, no issues

was a spring compressor required

no

was there an increase in static height...i,m assuming not,,,,,,,,

is there data that indicates the actual spring rates .......110,,,,,,,,,,,,,,130...

land rover spring specifications (http://www.members.shaw.ca/jbarge/springinfo.html) all info here, many popular after market data as well.

any opinions appreciated ,,,,,,,,cheers


I think 130 fronts are a good option, depending on what sort of ride you are after they will be firmer then 110 fronts. You could let the front springs settle with the weight and just add a coil spacer to lift it back up if you want a smother ride.

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[geckos]

trailcutter,
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/109899-help-anyone-raised-puma-big-trouble.html
read this thread and then decide......... me personally if i owned the latest model i would wait for the outcome from this thread....

geck

[Allan]

seeking advice re springs 2010 defer wagon
today fitted arb bar,,mulgo steps/bumperettes,,,front has dropped 10mm or so expect it to settle a touch more with miles on it........wish to level out vehicle and reclaim 10+ mm of front travel..........

has anyone fitted a set of 130 front springs (current ) on to a 110 wagon.......were there any issues ,,,,

was a spring compressor required

was there an increase in static height...i,m assuming not,,,,,,,,

is there data that indicates the actual spring rates .......110,,,,,,,,,,,,,,130...

any opinions appreciated ,,,,,,,,cheers

I fitted 130 springs to my Puma, ARB bar winch ect with no issues and little height change. I think now they have been in about 14 months and have settled in well. Yes use a spring compressor, much easier particulaly if your sway bar is still fitted. I also suggest you wait for Povmans problems to be sorted. As to spring rates, the standard 110 numbers NRC8044 and NRC8045 are 155/215 variable rates as the heavy duty fronts (or 130 fronts) are NRC9448 and NRC49449 are are 225 non variable. Hope this helps. Sorry Benny11A din't see your posr, very slow at typing.

Allan

[miky]

trailcutter,
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/109899-help-anyone-raised-puma-big-trouble.html
read this thread and then decide......... me personally if i owned the latest model i would wait for the outcome from this thread....

geck


I am also thinking about 130 springs as I also have a new bar and winch.

If I do decide, I will be getting LR to fit them!!
OK, so they will charge like the wounded bull to fit them most probably but at least if any problems should arise it becomes their problem.

[trailcutter]

I think 130 fronts are a good option, depending on what sort of ride you are after they will be firmer then 110 fronts. You could let the front springs settle with the weight and just add a coil spacer to lift it back up if you want a smother ride.

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thanks mate..... considering the spacer option,,,,,,, cant imagine the 130 coils would feel much harsher ,,,,defer is not a cadillac;)

will seek some spring rate data,,and look at the numbers re;rate differences between 110-13-

technically i should regain the 10mm+ compession travel with the 130,s,,,,,,,,,?!

[trailcutter]

trailcutter,
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/109899-help-anyone-raised-puma-big-trouble.html
read this thread and then decide......... me personally if i owned the latest model i would wait for the outcome from this thread....

geck


have been keeping close eye on this one...........!..........


if coil lengths of 130 f/spring are identical ,,,one can assume......the status should remain normal........t.y.

[trailcutter]

I fitted 130 springs to my Puma, ARB bar winch ect with no issues and little height change. I think now they have been in about 14 months and have settled in well. Yes use a spring compressor, much easier particulaly if your sway bar is still fitted. I also suggest you wait for Povmans problems to be sorted. As to spring rates, the standard 110 numbers NRC8044 and NRC8045 are 155/215 variable rates as the heavy duty fronts (or 130 fronts) are NRC9448 and NRC49449 are are 225 non variable. Hope this helps. Sorry Benny11A din't see your posr, very slow at typing.

Allan


cheers mate ............... just the data i am after.:)...........did you percieve a defined difference in ride quality,,,,,,,,harsher????

did the vehicle sit relativly level with the 130 springs f-r.?

[trailcutter]

I am also thinking about 130 springs as I also have a new bar and winch.

If I do decide, I will be getting LR to fit them!!
OK, so they will charge like the wounded bull to fit them most probably but at least if any problems should arise it becomes their problem.




there is some method to your madness.............reading the good bad and ugly on the puma i dont blame you,,,,,,,,,,,, the main plus for fitting myself ,,is i get to know the vehicle more intimetly ..... the arb bar fitting was a breeze thank christ ,,,,,,,,,daniel from MULGO ,,was kind enough to offer his workshop to me ,while i was in the big smoke picking up some steps /bumperettes etc ...

[Allan]

cheers mate ............... just the data i am after.:)...........did you percieve a defined difference in ride quality,,,,,,,,harsher????

did the vehicle sit relativly level with the 130 springs f-r.?


No ride difference noted And vehicle sat almost level, mine was a little higher in the rear as iI removed the 3rd row seats. but I also put OME shock absorbers in when ABB did the lift that went wrong so I retained these on the front.

Allan

[justinc]

No Need for a spring compressor, Lift the vehicle by the chassis support bracket for the rear of the radius rod, (you'll have to replace one side at a time), and allow the suspension to droop to the shock length. Support the axle with a trolley jack and disconnect shock bottom and lower the trolley jack. A small bottle jack positioned on the axle housing where the bumpstop hits, and the other end where the edge of the bumpstop is mounted and jack away. Push the shock up by hand, and The original springs will then just drop out and you can fit the newer ones. The NRC9448/9 's aren't THAT long, but watch the brake lines when jacking down.

JC

[Benny_IIA]

thanks mate..... considering the spacer option,,,,,,, cant imagine the 130 coils would feel much harsher ,,,,defer is not a cadillac;)

will seek some spring rate data,,and look at the numbers re;rate differences between 110-13-

technically i should regain the 10mm+ compession travel with the 130,s,,,,,,,,,?!


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