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incisor
2nd August 2010, 11:51 AM
Free Android apps scrape personal data, send it to China - smartphones, security, privacy, Phones, consumer electronics, Apple - CIO (http://www.cio.com.au/article/355255/free_android_apps_scrape_personal_data_send_it_chi na/?fp=2&fpid=1)


gotta love em...

incisor
2nd August 2010, 11:53 AM
'Unhackable' Android can be hacked, Black Hat researchers say - Computerworld (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9179863/_Unhackable_Android_can_be_hacked_Black_Hat_resear chers_say)

and again..

incisor
2nd August 2010, 11:54 AM
security tool to help keep trouble away on android

https://www.mylookout.com/download-mobile-security

lewy
2nd August 2010, 01:33 PM
wow thats. cool,tell my phone to stop screaming
now to register my mates phone number:twisted:

Scallops
12th August 2010, 10:50 AM
Another story relating to Android phones - such as the HTC Desire.... :(

Virus infects Android phones (http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/virus-infects-android-phones-20100811-11z9b.html)

Banjo_pluker
12th August 2010, 10:59 AM
Just as well your were looking at an iphone then inc

Scallops
12th August 2010, 11:06 AM
Just as well your were looking at an iphone then inc

I guess these stories are at least warnings to those who own Android phones - better to be aware of potential issues. :)

And although anyone can Jailbreak an iPhone, the fact that Apple somewhat "controls" their Apps and interface, amongst other factors, really limits this sort of thing happening to iPhone users. That and the fact that none of us can actually get hold of one as yet. :p

incisor
12th August 2010, 11:27 AM
iphone security has been broken on a couple of occasions so they arent immune.

cant see anything ever being 100% safe due to the very nature of the things...

i am looking for a solution, not just an iphone.. the iphone 4 is a contender as are a couple of others.

i want something that will work in 4511 and 4613 as well as manage my appointment calendar and contacts "reliably"

i use outlook for the appointments and contacts

doesn't sound like much but it is proving to be somewhat of a challenge to find a solution that actually works to the point of being business class...

Ferret
12th August 2010, 11:31 AM
I guess these stories are at least warnings to those who own Android phones - better to be aware of potential issues. :)

And although anyone can Jailbreak an iPhone, the fact that Apple somewhat "controls" their Apps and interface, amongst other factors, really limits this sort of thing happening to iPhone users. That and the fact that none of us can actually get hold of one as yet. :p

Should the fact that you can hack the iPhone4 OS simply by downloading a PDF from a website be classed as 'potential issue' with an iPhone4 ??? ;)

Scallops
12th August 2010, 11:34 AM
iphone security has been broken on a couple of occasions so they arent immune.



Just to clarify - would that be on iPhones that had been Jailbreaked already? Just asking (cos I don't know) and because I thought these viruses, at least the ones referred to in the article I posted, were downloaded through dodgy apps.

If an iPhone has not had a Jailbreak done - I thought it could only downloaded Apple apps, which are not going to be infected - are they? :angel:

Scallops
12th August 2010, 11:36 AM
Should the fact that you can hack the iPhone4 OS simply by downloading a PDF from a website be classed as 'potential issue' with an iPhone4 ??? ;)

Yes - if true. But then - why isn't it happening 24/7 if it's that easy - or is it that these Russians can't get an iPhone yet cos everyone wants one - unlike the Android copies? :p

incisor
12th August 2010, 11:40 AM
not virii per see but rogue apps that steal data or money.

same outcome as a virus, not same method of getting the data.

as much as apple can vet an app, some apps use genuinely useful and legitimate system routines to actually pilfer data so it becomes very very hard to manage what is really happening in an application.

several labs are working on a way of reliably doing it in an automated manner

Scallops
12th August 2010, 11:44 AM
Should the fact that you can hack the iPhone4 OS simply by downloading a PDF from a website be classed as 'potential issue' with an iPhone4 ??? ;)

Don't worry Ferret - I have discovered why this isn't actually an issue - because it's been fixed! :D

AppleInsider | Apple releases iOS 4.0.2, 3.2.2 with fix for PDF exploit (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/08/11/apple_releases_ios_4_0_2_3_2_2_with_fix_for_pdf_ex ploit.html)

Ferret
12th August 2010, 11:46 AM
If an iPhone has not had a Jailbreak done - I thought it could only downloaded Apple apps, which are not going to be infected - are they? :angel:

JailbrakeMe (http://www.gadgetvenue.com/iphone-4-jailbreak-pdf-exploit-apple-investigating-08044739/)

You don't have to down load an 'app' - just down load a PDF from a website to get root access into the OS, do whatever you want from there. If you are not being malicious then just install the jailbreak software, on the other hand you might be inclined to install something a little less innocuous.

Of course Apple will fix it as will Google fix their problem.

Scallops
12th August 2010, 11:48 AM
JailbrakeMe (http://www.gadgetvenue.com/iphone-4-jailbreak-pdf-exploit-apple-investigating-08044739/)

You don't have to down load an 'app' - just down load a PDF from a website to get root access into the OS, do whatever you want from there. If you are not being malicious then just install the jailbreak software, on the other hand you might be inclined to install something a little less innocuous.

Of course Apple will fix it as will Google fix their problem.

Apple have fixed it - I think it will be an ongoing problem for the rest.

Ferret
12th August 2010, 12:21 PM
Apple have fixed it - I think it will be an ongoing problem for the rest.

Hooray, Apple plugs another hole. Seriously, it is an ongoing issue with all except for Apple fanbois. :D

At the other end of the spectrum Blackberry is being threatened with bans in some countries because some aspects of their security has proved too difficult to allow governments to monitor their users activities. I note neither Android, iPhone or Symbian are on that list.

Scallops
12th August 2010, 12:30 PM
Hooray, Apple plugs another hole. Seriously, it is an ongoing issue with all except for Apple fanbois. :D


Agreed! Happy Days! :twobeers::D

Here is a good example of why I am a Fan :) - last night, I was thinking about how I might make a FaceTime call when I get my iPhone - given I have Ethernet and no WIfi setup. Then I realised - my iMac has a thing called Airport built in. Long story short - I managed to set up my own secure Wifi network at my home - in 2 minutes flat.

It's easy with Apple stuff. ;)

Ferret
12th August 2010, 12:42 PM
Agreed! Happy Days! :twobeers::D

Well, we do agree on some things. ;)

incisor
12th August 2010, 12:45 PM
its a bigger issue for those that dislike apple for the sake of disliking apple, actually..

symbian is a minefield

android is heading in the same direction tho no where near as bad, yet so there is still time

blackberry will capitulate or lose market share and put servers in all the regimes blowing up about it..

apple is apple, no virus, but the occasional security issue and an attitude of silence till fixed.

Ferret
12th August 2010, 12:55 PM
Well, we do agree on some things. ;)

Just clarify in case it gets taken out of context, I am not referring to anything related to Apple at this point, I think we do agree very much on other issues.

Scallops
12th August 2010, 01:08 PM
I took your comment the right way, Ferret :) - we do indeed agree on many important issues. :)