View Full Version : How do you price a tricked up Rig?
Banjo_pluker
8th August 2010, 08:21 PM
I am looking at getting another RRC.
This is a tricked up truck, 90 model with 400000od km, although I am told the only thing that has done these k's is the chassis
4l D2 bottom end with a ZF auto and LT230 transfer
maxi drives back and front body lift spring lift etc etc etc. 15 by 8 query 35's on the wheels,
Is there a way to price these, the owner says he has spent over $30000 on it,
it is full engineered.
Thanks,
midal
8th August 2010, 08:36 PM
Really got to ask yourself... what is it worth to you?
big guy
8th August 2010, 08:59 PM
To be honest---
Think this way.
O.K All cars need a motor, transfer box and diffs.
They are tricked up well and good but they are there and for the tricky bits its not much more in reality.
He may even get more money if he parts it out.
Many people would not even think of driving a RRC with 35's. Not every day anyhow.
Lets say its a 89 model, than it will probably fetch $6-9k.
If its a soft dash and he done a full job like that he may get abused or loved as they are getting rare now but $8-12k I would think.
The 4L motor is also not much chop, if it had a high compression 4.6 or bigger with haltech, cam and head work with gas injection etc than we are talking but a 4L you can get for $2k most days.
They are my thoughts and experience from owning 8RRC's and always spending a bucket on them and than when just right I get bored or see another project.
Such is life
A mate is selling his Patrol because he needs the money, he droped $22k at ARB and others. He will never get that back, not even close. I tried to tell him to keep original gear and swap it off if he ever sells but no.
Now he will loose big time.:(
abaddonxi
8th August 2010, 08:59 PM
I am looking at getting another RRC.
This is a tricked up truck, 90 model with 400000od km, although I am told the only thing that has done these k's is the chassis
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The speedo has probably done that many Kms, too.:p
CraigE
8th August 2010, 10:56 PM
Red book is all he will get trade regardless of extras. I would consider offering Red book plus 10-20% if it is what you are after. A lot depends on what you think is a fair price too.
The reality is I probablly would not sell my Fender because of that very reason. If it came to it I would part it out.
Banjo_pluker
12th August 2010, 10:51 PM
Really got to ask yourself... what is it worth to you?
Is is what I was thinking but thought I would ask thanks
To be honest---
Think this way.
O.K All cars need a motor, transfer box and diffs.
They are tricked up well and good but they are there and for the tricky bits its not much more in reality.
He may even get more money if he parts it out.
Many people would not even think of driving a RRC with 35's. Not every day anyhow.
Lets say its a 89 model, than it will probably fetch $6-9k.
If its a soft dash and he done a full job like that he may get abused or loved as they are getting rare now but $8-12k I would think.
The 4L motor is also not much chop, if it had a high compression 4.6 or bigger with haltech, cam and head work with gas injection etc than we are talking but a 4L you can get for $2k most days.
They are my thoughts and experience from owning 8RRC's and always spending a bucket on them and than when just right I get bored or see another project.
Such is life
A mate is selling his Patrol because he needs the money, he droped $22k at ARB and others. He will never get that back, not even close. I tried to tell him to keep original gear and swap it off if he ever sells but no.
Now he will loose big time.:(
This is very good food for thought.
I did wonder that about the engine, it does have an after market pickyback chip from Graham coopers, he did the difs as well, LRA supplied the rest.
Red book is all he will get trade regardless of extras. I would consider offering Red book plus 10-20% if it is what you are after. A lot depends on what you think is a fair price too.
The reality is I probablly would not sell my Fender because of that very reason. If it came to it I would part it out.
From looking around I have found that it is about a fair price from all reports and he hinted a lot that he is very flexible on price. I also liked someone's comment on the forum (sorry can't remember who it was) if it breaks just buy another one and swap the bits over.
Now only to find the money:D
Banjo_pluker
12th August 2010, 10:52 PM
The speedo has probably done that many Kms, too.:p
You might be onto something there:p
V8Ian
12th August 2010, 11:00 PM
Bear in mind that with all the mods the milage will be very hard miles.
trobbo
13th August 2010, 08:21 AM
I sold my 94 ES discovery recently and all I could get was 11K. Stock these go for about 5-8K. Build cost as more than 30K plus the car.
It had
4.6ltr (done 20,000 km)
F&R lockers & axles
gas injection (6K and less than 12 months old)
Highmount winch with uprated motor plasma etc (5K)
big tyres
flared guards
one off custom ARB built bull bar
4.11 diff ratios
etc
etc
etc
Someone has bought themselves a very good reliable and, when you consider the build cost, cheap discovery .Yeah I could have got a stack more parting it out but I couldn't be bothered with the hassle and being left with half a car. As said by big guy the car had to have almost all of these things anyway so the added value to the car is far less than there purchase and install price as I have taken something off to add it.
Banjo_pluker
13th August 2010, 10:34 AM
Bear in mind that with all the mods the milage will be very hard miles.
That is a good point that I had not thought of
I sold my 94 ES discovery recently and all I could get was 11K. Stock these go for about 5-8K. Build cost as more than 30K plus the car.
It had
4.6ltr (done 20,000 km)
F&R lockers & axles
gas injection (6K and less than 12 months old)
Highmount winch with uprated motor plasma etc (5K)
big tyres
flared guards
one off custom ARB built bull bar
4.11 diff ratios
etc
etc
etc
Someone has bought themselves a very good reliable and, when you consider the build cost, cheap discovery .Yeah I could have got a stack more parting it out but I couldn't be bothered with the hassle and being left with half a car. As said by big guy the car had to have almost all of these things anyway so the added value to the car is far less than there purchase and install price as I have taken something off to add it.
This is what I am hoping with this buy. I would think that after puting a lot of years worth of money and time into the rig it IMHO (without ever done it) it would/could be heart breaking to part out your prised rig.
Bigbjorn
13th August 2010, 03:22 PM
To the trade it is an xxxx year model of an xyz make. There is a book price giving a price range according to condition and model. It is not original so this discounts the value to the trade. Then add a (very) nominal value for the accessories.
Are you prepared to pay a premium over this value for what has been done to it? This is the question.
Hall
13th August 2010, 04:50 PM
I have brought a hybrid custom ute. All the work was done about 5 to 6 years ago. Fully engineered, five year old reco motor with only 45000 k`s on the the motor. Was a bit tiered when I brought it. Only paid $ 3100 for it. Motor is worth that much alone. Have spent about another $2000 on it. So for only $5000 I`ve a good rig. So mods are worth next to nothing when adding to the value of the car. Some one I know has spent about $100000 on a Patrol. It would only get at sale about $ 30000. It does pay to pick up some one else's toy after they have got bored with it. Might need a bit of attention, but then you have short cut the costs of building one your self.
Cheers Hall
DeeJay
14th August 2010, 03:02 PM
I have seen a few tricked up Rangie's in the last few years.
A top price for one is $7-$8000.
Ok he has spent $30,000 on it, but look at the mileage!! - a lot of fun has been had & that has to come off the bottom line, you can't have it both ways.
Also, what would you get for it when you want to sell?
I know my County has a heck of a lot of fun left in it before I sell it, & I'll be taking that into consideration when asking the $$$
Banjo_pluker
23rd August 2010, 10:54 PM
Thank you for all for your great advice and food for thought.
After a lot of hard thinking and not sleeping, I bought the truck of my dreams :D:D tonight, negotiated a price that I was happy with and I intend not to sell it for a very long time so resale was not a major consideration.
Pics will have to wait, it was late and raining by the time it was delivered.
The seller has stayed in the landrover game and he picks up his new puma next week:D
Ok look here (I forgot how to add the photo and it is late)
http://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/18464/title/img-3382/cat/500
Didge
25th August 2010, 09:59 PM
Its also interesting to see how much you can insure ya truck for cos they just look at redbook or similar and it doesn't matter a hoot what you paid for it. I paid $13k for a 96 model Def and they'd only insure it for $11.5 (bastards!)
RoverOne
25th August 2010, 10:16 PM
Its also interesting to see how much you can insure ya truck for cos they just look at redbook or similar and it doesn't matter a hoot what you paid for it. I paid $13k for a 96 model Def and they'd only insure it for $11.5 (bastards!)
That is an intersting thought mine was last insured for $12,000 which I cancelled in Feb 2010.
HangOver
25th August 2010, 10:55 PM
I'm oretty sure there are some insurance co's that will insure at "agreed value" which is basically whatever you say it is but they charge more for the premium.
GuyG
25th August 2010, 11:05 PM
I'm pretty sure there are some insurance co's that will insure at "agreed value" which is basically whatever you say it is but they charge more for the premium.
You'd think this would be the case, but with mine they still had to agree as to what I thought it was worth, which they didn't:mad: and to make it more frustrating I don't have salvage rights of the vehicle because of its age - still trying to sort this one. Whats more annoying is that my fathers classic rangie which is older and stock apart from a P76 motor they valued at a greater price:eek:. Both are listed on the same policy. Doesn't make any sense to me.
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