TD5 with a Million KM's

[d2dave]

I always thought the TD5 was a good motor. Now I am convinced.

A bit pricey though

2004, LAND ROVER DISCOVERY, Perth, Dealer Used, $31,990 at carsguide.com.au (http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/search/vehicle-details/D_14592204/@type=cars&N=4294962119+363++516+4294966447&Nf=pYear%7CGTEQ%202003&searchType=1&vehicleType=1&pos=2&pr=D_14654747&nr=D_14678983)

Dave.

[Fluids]

Cool !

It's a 2004 Td5 Classic Country, same as mine ...

... I've potentially got another 925,169km to go! :)

This things done 178,000km per year, or 15,000km per month, or 500kms/day

... or it's a typo!

Kev..

[Hendrik]

How on Earth can you rack up a million kms in 7 years. The most I've seen on a td5 is 400k kms, and its still going strong.

[jazzaD1]

gee, the taxis must be cushy in perth!

[Fluids]

I've got a couple of rep's who call at work who are doing 10-12k per month! (madness I say!)

Car's booked in for a service on the first Monday of the month .... permanently!

... I wouldn't call that enjoyable driving.

Kev..

[Bigbjorn]

I've got a couple of rep's who call at work who are doing 10-12k per month! (madness I say!)

Car's booked in for a service on the first Monday of the month .... permanently!

... I wouldn't call that enjoyable driving.

Kev..

Based on my experience managing a fleet of 70 rep's cars that is a median figure for country reps. Nothing for a rep's car to do that distance over a three year turnover period, particularly a rep travelling a Qld. country territory where his first customer call might be 500 k's from base.

I used to buy Sydney taxis for resale in Brisbane in the 60's and early 70's from a fleet of 50+. The owner turned them over at 200,000 MILES or two years, whichever happened first.

If a line haul owner-driver with a normal six axle rig is not doing at least 250,000 k's per annum you can say that he is not making enough money and will go broke unless he has some pretty silvery freight.

[isuzurover]

TYPO



2004 Land Rover Discovery 11 TD5 Classic
Location: Julian Car Company
Availability: Available
Stock Number: 5506
Condition: Pre-Owned
Kilometres: 106,669 Kilometres
Price: $31,990

2004 Land Rover Discovery 11 TD5 Classic (http://www.juliancarco.com.au/main/stocklist/show.php?id=260&page=3&p=5&srt=make%20ASC)

"If it looks/sounds too good to be true, it probably is" :p ;)
(sorry TD5 owners, if you want to do that many km on one engine you will need to buy a 4BD1) :D

[disco2hse]

TYPO



2004 Land Rover Discovery 11 TD5 Classic (http://www.juliancarco.com.au/main/stocklist/show.php?id=260&page=3&p=5&srt=make%20ASC)

I was going to say that it looks too clean and not worn out for that kind of mileage.

[JohnF]

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2004 Land Rover Discovery 11 TD5 Classic (http://www.juliancarco.com.au/main/stocklist/show.php?id=260&page=3&p=5&srt=make%20ASC)

"If it looks/sounds too good to be true, it probably is" :p ;)
(sorry TD5 owners, if you want to do that many km on one engine you will need to buy a 4BD1) :D

Yes, my 4BD1 will reach a million km soon. It is over 930,000 km at the moment and has taken since 1982 to get these kilometers up.

But a TD5 ???

[It'sNotWorthComplaining!]

I'd say the ad is a typo, more like the '0" wasn't supposed to be there.

[ramblingboy42]

Yes, my 4BD1 will reach a million km soon. It is over 930,000 km at the moment and has taken since 1982 to get these kilometers up.

But a TD5 ???

if your 4bd1 has done 930k, why wont a td5? no bs please.

[PAT303]

My eldest brother has a mate who bought one of the first 200 Tdi defenders to come to Oz to use as a desert tag-a-long vehicle,he was taking over from an older guy who was retireing and he used a 2.6ltr series 2A that had the equilivent in miles of 1 million,260,000k's on the clock and the 2.6 had never been rebuilt but had worn out two gearbox's and a few clutches.My old TAFE teacher had a LH torana on gas that had 1.1 million K's on it from driving every day from Wollongong to Sydney. Pat

[isuzurover]

if your 4bd1 has done 930k, why wont a td5? no bs please.

The 4BD1 is extremely strongly constructed, and only experiences low loads in a landie compared to the 8 tonne trucks and heavy industrial applications it was designed for. These motors regularly do over a million km in trucks.

The TD5 by comparison is fairly highly stressed, not as heavily constructed - however has very good filtration. It is not yet possible to say how long they will last - I think several have needed new heads or head gaskets already??? It may be the case that the bottom end may last a long time...

[PAT303]

if your 4bd1 has done 930k, why wont a td5? no bs please.

It would but the everyday stop start is the thing that wears them out.A motor thats run without ever stopping would go for ever as the oil is always at operating temp and throughout the motor stopping metal to metal contact instead of cold in the sump each morning. Pat

[Critical Jim]

My eldest brother has a mate who bought one of the first 200 Tdi defenders to come to Oz to use as a desert tag-a-long vehicle,he was taking over from an older guy who was retireing and he used a 2.6ltr series 2A that had the equilivent in miles of 1 million,260,000k's on the clock and the 2.6 had never been rebuilt but had worn out two gearbox's and a few clutches.My old TAFE teacher had a LH torana on gas that had 1.1 million K's on it from driving every day from Wollongong to Sydney. Pat

1.26 million on a rover six, damm I'm only up to 44'000 on mine and its on its last leg's, mind you its been that way since new, time for a Holden 186 conversion I think.

[PAT303]

Whatever you do don't fit a 186. Pat

[d@rk51d3]

I've got a 179 you can have......... I think. It's a 17-something, anyway.

[isuzurover]

2.6ltr series 2A that had the equilivent in miles of 1 million,260,000k's on the clock and the 2.6 had never been rebuilt but had worn out two gearbox's and a few clutches.

I find that very hard to believe. It must have been one of the rare 2.6s that didn't burn out valves like their was no tomorrow. I still have an LROI where they interviewed a senior member of the design team. He said that in his opinion the 2.6 was a very bad choice and far too highly stressed in the application (land rover). He said they had a prototype 3.0L with a weslake head, and that was what all the engineers wanted to fit.

[series3]

The 4BD1 is extremely strongly constructed,

Hey ben what do you mean by this? forged this and that; big cast iron block? I guess it is great against overheating, but does it facilitate longer kms?

Sam

[frantic]

As has been stated previously , it's not the K's as such but how you do them and the speed your travelling at. An Isuzu doing an inner city run stop start 15-20 times per day at an average speed of 20kph would wear just as fast, if not faster than a td5, put them both on the highway doing a single run of 5-700k's per day(avg. speed of 90kph) and they would both exceed the million k mark. the more likely reason td5's suffer from the occasional head problem is both the pressure and a much higher percentage used as inner city runabout vehicles and weekend fun compared to isuzu's. This would mean many more cold starts, hot slow traffic crawls and traffic light drag racing/heavy braking increasing wear greatly on the engine.
This is why I believe that all cars should have an hour meter to show how long the engine has been running as well as the number of K's. How many of the grey imports from Japan(one of the world worst gridlocked places) are advertised as 70-90k's at 10+years old? But if you had an hour meter/ readout it would show that they are on the road around the same as an aussie driven car with 160k's+ !

[BMKal]

How on Earth can you rack up a million kms in 7 years.

Quite easily actually. That's an average of only 391 km per day, which many vehicles out there easily exceed. The Falcon panel vans that used to do the daily paper runs from Kalgoorlie to Leinster and all towns in between knocked up a million k's in not much over two years - mostly running on gas.


It would but the everyday stop start is the thing that wears them out.A motor thats run without ever stopping would go for ever as the oil is always at operating temp and throughout the motor stopping metal to metal contact instead of cold in the sump each morning. Pat


As has been stated previously , it's not the K's as such but how you do them and the speed your travelling at. An Isuzu doing an inner city run stop start 15-20 times per day at an average speed of 20kph would wear just as fast, if not faster than a td5, put them both on the highway doing a single run of 5-700k's per day(avg. speed of 90kph) and they would both exceed the million k mark.

Spot on.

I had a Toyota Hi-Ace with the 2.4 naturally aspirated diesel that had over a million k's on the original engine (third gearbox) when I sold it. I put the last 750,000 k's on it in about 3 years.

It was a pilot vehicle and did a lot of k's almost every day. Was nothing out of the ordinary to do 1,000 k's in a single day.

Must admit, the old girl looked nowhere near as tidy as that Disco at the end of it all though. :p

[Tote]

I managed to put 265000Km on a Ford Maverick in 18 months doing service work in western NSW. Thats a million km in 5 years

Regards,
Tote

[Critical Jim]

Whatever you do don't fit a 186. Pat

I see plenty of series Land Rovers running a Holden in-line 6 of various capacity.

Plus anything would be better than the rover six that its running at the moment.

[BMKal]

Whatever you do don't fit a 186. Pat

I dunno Pat - I've always had more success with the 186 than the 202 when I used to tinker with these things. Preference was always for a good 179 though. :D

But they're all getting a bit long in the tooth these days I think. If I was looking to do an engine conversion these days, I think I'd be looking for something a little more modern. I had a Chev V8 Diesel in my F100 before the first Disco - was pretty impressed with that, though I don't know how you'd go trying to shoehorn one into a Landrover. There's a bloody nice 80 Series cruiser kicking around town with a 6.5 Turbo in it. :twisted:

[VladTepes]

I thnk one of the fellas at British Off Road has a 300Tdi with One Million kms on it. Has had new heads etc but basicaly the same - cars in goodnick too.