Rego question

[Disco_owner]

hi guys ; I've just got my rego papers for my range rover with the slip attached and labeled "changes to light motor vehicle tax".

from 9 August 2010, a one off increase in motor vehicle tax applies for certain light vehicles. there is a provision for certain energy efficient vehicles to be exempt from tax increase. more info see here..

Light motor vehicle weight tax (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/otherinformation/weighttax2010.html)

cut long story short ,both my vehicles rego arrive nearly 2-3 weeks apart and I can't really afford to register 2 x vehicles at the moment , the range rover really is in needs of urgent repairs , brake oil leaking , tx fluid leaking , and oil cooler lines leaking etc etc etc. I want to get all these things done before advertising for sale.

If I let the rego run out and decide to do the repaires later , can i obtain a blue slip then and re-register it at a later date ????

[mudmouse]

Hmmm. I haven't heard about that extra tax!! Just more crap we have to deal with....

Anyway, once your registration expires beyond three months the RTA will cancel (the registration) and a blue slip is required to get you back on the track. They'll also want you to hand the old plates back too...

All the best,

Matt.

[dullbird]

depeding on what mods you have done to it Khoz you may have to get it engineered before getting it blue slipped....a blue slipper may not possibly except the vehicle with modifaction

[Disco_owner]

Hmmm. I haven't heard about that extra tax!! Just more crap we have to deal with....

Anyway, once your registration expires beyond three months the RTA will cancel (the registration) and a blue slip is required to get you back on the track. They'll also want you to hand the old plates back too...

All the best,

Matt.

Any idea on the cost of handing the old rego plates and re-obtaining blue slip at a later date??

DB : may have to take all the goodies off the vehicle and take it back to standard height before re-obtaining blue slip to get it ready for sale , this is the only way I see around the engineering issues :(

[hoadie72]

Sound like you've got a bit of work to do on the Range Rover but have you considered 6 monthly rego? Call your CTP insurer, get a quote & pay for 6 months CTP, then when you go to pay your rego it'll pick up that you've only paid 6 months CTP and adjust your rego fee accordingly..

[PhilipA]

Khos , if i were you I would not let the rego lapse.
A blue slip check is a lot more rigorous than a green slip, and may question the legality of your tyres, springs etc.
Regard s Philip A

[mudmouse]

Any idea on the cost of handing the old rego plates and re-obtaining blue slip at a later date??

DB : may have to take all the goodies off the vehicle and take it back to standard height before re-obtaining blue slip to get it ready for sale , this is the only way I see around the engineering issues :(

No cost of handing them in, just your wasted time standing in a queue :p

Pink slips are about $25 and blue ones about $35.

Before you change the springs, have a shot at getting a blue slip first - most guys are pretty reasonable and the difference between the two inspections is that the 'blue' one is to check the vehicles identity - chassis numbers, wheels base, weight and so on.

Matt.

[Disco_owner]

Khos , if i were you I would not let the rego lapse.
A blue slip check is a lot more rigorous than a green slip, and may question the legality of your tyres, springs etc.
Regard s Philip A


I just can't afford to register both vehicles at the moment Phillip. the tyres shocks and springs will most probably be replaced with OME ones at a later date ones vehicle is back to standard height and all mechanical repairs are done.

[VladTepes]

pink slip ? blue slip ? What sort of world are you mexicans living in down there ?

[groucho]

Handing the plates back costs nothing. I you want to keep the plates you will have to pay a anual fee to put them into hold. You have 3 months from when the rego expires eg for repairs ect to get a pink slip. a blue slip will require a new rego insection weigh bridge ticket and all the fees included. ps you will still have to pay the full rego backdated forn when the rego expired.......

[JDNSW]

The vehicle weight tax is a new initiative of the NSW government, squarely aimed at rural people who generally don't vote Labor, but do need heavier vehicles because they have to drive longer distances on the unmaintained rural roads. It is part of a desperate attempt by the NSW government to make up some of the budget shortfall before they get turfed out in March.

John

[Bigbjorn]

The vehicle weight tax is a new initiative of the NSW government, squarely aimed at rural people who generally don't vote Labor, but do need heavier vehicles because they have to drive longer distances on the unmaintained rural roads. It is part of a desperate attempt by the NSW government to make up some of the budget shortfall before they get turfed out in March.

John

I had a look at your RTA web-site, JD. The only vehicles not subject to the new charge are a select few hybrid drive cars, vehicles weighing under 975 kg, and various pensioner and carer concessions. Just a sneaky increase in registration charges to almost every motorist, not just rural dwellers. Not many cars under 975 kgs these days.

Do you think any new government will actually remove any income producing initiatives? They will probably dream up a few of their own. A governments desperate need for money will not change with new incumbents. A new government will need more, what with jobs for the boys, payback for big business donors, pork barrelling in marginal electorates, worthless make-work projects that will never be completed or any use but are good for publicity, etc.

[PhilipA]

Yes , I have to pay some money extra for my heavy and fuel guzzling Honda Jazz. It is Oh Horror 1045Kg and only does 6.2 Lper 100Km.

The NSW government's creativity for new taxes is sensational.

The other newie is another property transfer tax, ostensibly to fund the state title Guarantee. Funny, a friend of mine is the ex deputy DG of Land Titles and told me a few month ago that the government had hundred of millions in the fund as claims are so low.

Regards Philip A

[Tusker]

Khos I'd be avoiding the blue slip process at all costs. Been there, done that, never again.

Seems to me your list has to be

1. Rego Disco

2. Rego Rangie, within 3 months of due date

3. Repairs Rangie

4. Sell Rangie.

I wondered why the Rangie hadn't moved for a while at your place!

Regards
Max P

[Bigbjorn]

Yes , I have to pay some money extra for my heavy and fuel guzzling Honda Jazz. It is Oh Horror 1045Kg and only does 6.2 Lper 100Km.

The NSW government's creativity for new taxes is sensational.

The other newie is another property transfer tax, ostensibly to fund the state title Guarantee. Funny, a friend of mine is the ex deputy DG of Land Titles and told me a few month ago that the government had hundred of millions in the fund as claims are so low.

Regards Philip A

Shhh. Walls have ears. That fund could quickly disappear into consolidated revenue, just like Menzies disappeared our Social Services Contributions leaving retirement pensions to be funded annually from the budget.

[blackbuttdisco]

i thought slips were worn by women.

[Disco_owner]

Khos I'd be avoiding the blue slip process at all costs. Been there, done that, never again.

Seems to me your list has to be

1. Rego Disco

2. Rego Rangie, within 3 months of due date

3. Repairs Rangie

4. Sell Rangie.

I wondered why the Rangie hadn't moved for a while at your place!

Regards
Max P

yeah Max, the Rangie doesn't get driven as it leaking oil and mind you making a mess of the driveway:D with Brake fluid leaking constantly.I might follow your advice and repaire and register it within 3 months of due date & then move it on without redoing all the mods. at least I know it would be road worthy before it goes to another home.;)

[PhilipA]

Khos, just another possible wrinkle with needing a blue slip.
On the MAA CTP calculator there is a question on whether the car needs a blue slip.
I wouldn't put it past the insurers to increase the CTP on cars that need a blue slip. So maybe do a couple of run throughs on the MAA site to see if there is a difference in the CTP price for you.Only takes a few minutes.

My CTP has gone up from 294 AFAIR to 315 cheapest this year. That is almost 10%. Bastards.
Regard sPhilip A

[101RRS]

If a pink slip is a roadworthy what is a blue slip?

[JDNSW]

If a pink slip is a roadworthy what is a blue slip?

Roadworthy plus check of identification. Required to register an unregistered vehicle or interstate registration. Pink slip is roadworthy, required annually except on near new cars (not sure of the age - I've never owned one that new!) plus when selling.

John

[JDNSW]

I had a look at your RTA web-site, JD. The only vehicles not subject to the new charge are a select few hybrid drive cars, vehicles weighing under 975 kg, and various pensioner and carer concessions. Just a sneaky increase in registration charges to almost every motorist, not just rural dwellers. Not many cars under 975 kgs these days.

Do you think any new government will actually remove any income producing initiatives? They will probably dream up a few of their own. A governments desperate need for money will not change with new incumbents. A new government will need more, what with jobs for the boys, payback for big business donors, pork barrelling in marginal electorates, worthless make-work projects that will never be completed or any use but are good for publicity, etc.

I'm sure you are right, and no new government has ever scrapped a predecessor's tax that I can think of. And they will still need it to pay for the current government's sheer incompetence. They seem to specialise in huge payouts for people who lost as a result of cancelled contracts on projects that should never have been started in the first place. There have been so many ministers sacked, transferred, or otherwise removed I have lost track. At least one, perhaps more, is in gaol.

The only reason they have lasted this long is that the opposition has managed to project an air of being even more hopeless, difficult as that might be. The current opposition at least looks, better than the government, not that that is saying much!

John

[Bigbjorn]

I'm sure you are right, and no new government has ever scrapped a predecessor's tax that I can think of. And they will still need it to pay for the current government's sheer incompetence. They seem to specialise in huge payouts for people who lost as a result of cancelled contracts on projects that should never have been started in the first place. There have been so many ministers sacked, transferred, or otherwise removed I have lost track. At least one, perhaps more, is in gaol.

The only reason they have lasted this long is that the opposition has managed to project an air of being even more hopeless, difficult as that might be. The current opposition at least looks, better than the government, not that that is saying much!

John

Almost like Queensland except here the opposition looks even worse.

[101RRS]

Roadworthy plus check of identification. Required to register an unregistered vehicle or interstate registration. Pink slip is roadworthy, required annually except on near new cars (not sure of the age - I've never owned one that new!) plus when selling.

John

So you need a blue slip for an unregistered vehicle even if it was previously registered in your name - sounds like a money making exercise.

Garry

[V8Ian]

Almost like Queensland except here the opposition looks even worse.
We have an opposition? :o

[mudmouse]

So you need a blue slip for an unregistered vehicle even if it was previously registered in your name - sounds like a money making exercise.

Garry

If the rego is cancelled (expired more than 3 months) then it's cancelled from the 'registry' and has to go through the hoops to get it back on the registry.

The only saving grace is that you don't have to pay stamp duty - which you would if its a transfer of ownership (which is a load of dung anyway).

I tip I learnt from a recent RTA experience is to avoid a $96 fee for not transferring a (new) vehicle into your name within 14 days of purchase. The nice lady (after collecting $96) said I could have handed the plates in, thereby cancelling the rego and going through the blue slip process. The drama being that a registered vehicle must be transferred into a new owners name within 14 days, however an unregistered vehicle can be sold, swapped, pawned numerous times without their knowledge and they don't care...

Also, I have a Torana with personalised plates that was unregistered for about 3 years. When I went to register it I had to hand the plates in before they'd let me register it. I said, 'but I want these plates on the car'. They said, 'No. Hand the plates in'. The plates would then get destroyed and I order THE SAME plates again and I have to pay $37 for plates in the interim while those plates were being remade. Needless to say, I gave up the personal plates. It's just stupid!

Yup, the NSW RTA!

Matt.

[87County]

yeah Max, the Rangie doesn't get driven as it leaking oil and mind you making a mess of the driveway:D with Brake fluid leaking constantly.I might follow your advice and repaire and register it within 3 months of due date & then move it on without redoing all the mods. at least I know it would be road worthy before it goes to another home.;)

Both blue and pink slips are really no big deal if the vehicle has been registered in NSW and is in fact roadworthy.

If it is however an older or modified vehicle registered in another state with dodgy rego renewal procedures (e.g. QLD), attempting a new registration blue slip for it in NSW can get quite messy and in some cases will be impossible.

In my opinion, the most attractive option in this case would be to carry out any repairs required for rego within the 3 month period and then try to sell it with a pink slip before that period expires.

If it doesn't sell, then you can then allow it to lapse (taking the plates off etc), remembering that if you got a pink slip for it you will also get a blue slip providing that its condition remains roadworthy while in storage. There are procedures you can use to maintain it whilst in storage.

And yes... I agree that there's an unbelievable amount of stupidity in state government bureaucracy generally (and federal govt too for that matter)

[groucho]

Pink slips are or were only valid for 28 days if they havent changed the rules..

[JDNSW]

So you need a blue slip for an unregistered vehicle even if it was previously registered in your name - sounds like a money making exercise.

Garry

In practice it is, but you can see where it is coming from. Once the vehicle is unregistered, it could have changed hands or, and this is probably really the excuse, the vehicle you are re-registering could have only the serial numbers in common with the one that used to be in your name, having been rebirthed. Of course, this could have happened without it getting unregistered, but the argument is that it is more likely with an unregistered vehicle.

John

[Lotz-A-Landies]

A blue slip is merely an adjustment of records. There are various levels of Blue Slip in NSW.

Mostly a blue slip is a pink slip where the VIN and Engine numbers are also read and recorded.

A blue slip is also used for a change of record, say a replacement engine of the same or similar size.

It can be used for clearing a defect notice or for a range of modifications with or without engineers certificate.

All the stuff you had to take the vehicle to the RTA pits for inspection.

It's outsourcing government work.