Crank position sensor

[Vern]

Are there 2 different types of crank sensors for a pre 99 p38? I got one from Karkraft, told them it was for a 97 p38 and its different to the one on the car. the one on it has a plug the wires plug onto, the one i got from them has wires coming off it and a plug on the end of them.:(

[wayneg]

is this like yours?
Gems Range Rover P38 Engine Crank angle Sensor 4.0 4.6 on eBay (end time 24-Aug-10 10:12:06 BST) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gems-Range-Rover-P38-Engine-Crank-angle-Sensor-4-0-4-6-/150480174635?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM)

[Vern]

bingo, thats the one i need:). So did they send the wrong one, or are there 2 types for that era

[Vern]

anyone?

[wayneg]

Vern I have no idea if they are interchangeable but it appears there are two types for the same years. This I can only deduce from online sellers and the pictures of the part. Maybe a trip to the Stealers with Vin number would help answer your question.

[Vern]

Will ring karkraft tomorrow as they supplied it. was hoping someone from here could have told me that they are interchangable

[PaulP38a]

Please let us know what you find out. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is curious.
Cheers, Paul.

[clubagreenie]

I know that 4.0 to 4.6 are different slightly and that the mountings in the block are very different. The 4.0 has two posts while the 4.6 has two threaded holes. Also the angle the sensor is mounted on is diffferent pointing to two different flex plates.

When I swapped the disco to a 4.6 I had to change the mount back to the 4.0 and alter the mounting angle to match the original so the sensor didn't foul in the flex plate grove.

Th sensor that was on the 4.6 was different to the 4.0 both in plugs, mountings, sensor pin length and angle. But the 4.0 after fitting the 4.0 plate to original spec was fine. Could be a 4.0 that you got?

[Vern]

well i found out that they changed, one to suit 95-96 (blue with a lead and plug on it)the other 97-98(white one with just a plug on it), they sent me the wrong one and won't have any for 4 weeks:(

[Scouse]

LR have one in stock if you get desperate: ERR6119

[Vern]

LR? need a bit more help :(

[Scouse]

Land Rover - available through a dealer.

[wayneg]

well i found out that they changed, one to suit 95-96 (blue with a lead and plug on it)the other 97-98(white one with just a plug on it), they sent me the wrong one and won't have any for 4 weeks:(

Vern, I know I bang on about getting parts from the UK but that e-bay link to the correct part was 48 pounds, around A$84. You should be able to get them to deduct the VAT, 20% and ask for a price on Royal Mail small packet shipping, its normally very affordable on items less than a kilo. Takes about a week to get here, I have had parts arrive in 4 days from ordering. Rockauto.com in the states is also a great option on many parts for all cars

[Vern]

Part is around the same price here and available from another supplier, in no great rush to fix it now so will wait for Karkraft to fix it up. It makes my dumb deisel look so much better every day:)(but doesn't feel better, so comfy):D

[Razza's Rangie]

Hey there guys,
I recently bought a new block to replace the sauteed one that i have in my p38 1998,
On my old motor i have the white plug sensor with two bolts that screw into the housing.
On the new motor it has two studs sticking out and looks to be in a different position?

Do i need to remove these studs or drill a new hole for it?

Ok ok i got to the bottom of it!!!

The mounting plates are different for each type of sensor. The white plug sensor ( the one with the two bolt holes) sits close to the bottom edge off to the left a little.The hole for the sensor is 40mm up from the top of the sump and 80mm in from edge of the end of the crankshaft. The other mounting plate ( i think it is for the blue sensor) still sits 40mm up from the sump but is about 90-100mm out from the edge of the end of the crankshaft and has two threaded stud protruding from the external side of it.

SO..........................

If you have one on one block and one on the other and need to change them, you will first need to cut both plates off the two spot welds and swap them then re-weld the new mounting plate to the block.

in the photo i tried to fit the old sensor to the new block and well you can see what happened

[Rupert Prior]

just remove the whole round alloy plate by cutting the tack welds. remove the offset role pin from the block you plan to use, fit the plate using bearing grade loctite and a screw where the role pin used to be. (may require a shim on the screw between the block and plate to keep it square)

[Razza's Rangie]

just remove the whole round alloy plate by cutting the tack welds. remove the offset role pin from the block you plan to use, fit the plate using bearing grade loctite and a screw where the role pin used to be. (may require a shim on the screw between the block and plate to keep it square)

** Sounds great ** I might put another bolt or screw in it somehow to stop it from accidently moving and trashing my crank angle sensor ( had this happen once before and it was shocking)

Cheers thanks for the tip