Exide Marine Battery

[cewilson]

I'm currently looking at different battery combinations for my Defender at the moment. The limiting factor being the height of the terminals due to them being mounted under the seat.

I found the Exide MS450 Endurance battery listed on it's website, however it's slightly confusing. It's listed as a marine starting battery, but it's tech data is showing that it has an 85 A/H capability - this is why I'm interested.

If it does have that capability then two of them may be going into my vehicle very quickly.

Why?

Size = 232x173x185 (LxWxH)

Capacity = 450CCA and 85A/H

Price = $124.90 each - a lot better than the Orbital that's my other option.

It'd be border line with the CCA rating though........?


Exide :: Products Marine (http://www.exide.com.au/products/marine.php)

Whitworths Marine: Marine Starting Battery 12v MS450 (http://www.whitworths.com.au/main_itemdetail.asp?cat=123&item=4086&intAbsolutePage=1)



Thoughts?

[cewilson]

I guess no-one has any thoughts then :)

[5teve]

I had an exide battery in my boat, i bought it from Kmart was an 80 or 85ah battery and i used it as the Auxiliary battery as it was a half and half (crank / DC) it was a specific marine battery...

Seemed to work well.. except it died after about 14 months.. no reason i could see... just didnt work anymore...

I replaced it with a honking great 1000cca battery which i beleive is an exide one but RAC branded (i got it real cheap) its classed as a 4wd / marine battery.

I have a spare one to go in the deefer as a dual battery too... just not sure it will fit yet!

Thanks

Steve

edit: - looking at the exide link... it was the stowaway...

[harro]

I'm currently looking at different battery combinations for my Defender at the moment. The limiting factor being the height of the terminals due to them being mounted under the seat.

I found the Exide MS450 Endurance battery listed on it's website, however it's slightly confusing. It's listed as a marine starting battery, but it's tech data is showing that it has an 85 A/H capability - this is why I'm interested.

If it does have that capability then two of them may be going into my vehicle very quickly.

Why?

Size = 232x173x185 (LxWxH)

Capacity = 450CCA and 85A/H

Price = $124.90 each - a lot better than the Orbital that's my other option.

It'd be border line with the CCA rating though........?


Exide :: Products Marine (http://www.exide.com.au/products/marine.php)

Whitworths Marine: Marine Starting Battery 12v MS450 (http://www.whitworths.com.au/main_itemdetail.asp?cat=123&item=4086&intAbsolutePage=1)



Thoughts?

Hi cewilson,
Capacity = 450CCA and 85A/H is probably enough for a petrol outboard but I certainly wouldn't be putting it in my defender as a starting battery.
The 85A/H is good for ancillary equipment on a boat such as sounder etc, and might be ok as a deep cycle of reserve battery but for the defender I wouldn't go below 600 cca for starting.
450 cca might do the job but imho it is asking a lot for a diesel engine and will reduce the normal expected life of the battery and may even void warranty.

Cheers,
Paul.

[Chucaro]

I think that the Exide MS600 Endurance marine will be a better option with 600cc

[disco2hse]

I would check with an auto-sparky. If you are contemplating a dual battery set up you would also be wanting a "start" and "house" battery (to use the marine terminology). The rating of your start battery is fairly critical, but so to is the deep cycle battery for all your electrical components. How you want them charged is also important and what equipment you use to split the charge requirements. The auto-sparky can at least look over all the bits you have in place and recommend the right battery to meet your specific needs.

Remember that any advice you get from here can only at a distance and it is easy for the uninitiated make the wrong choices (believe me I know :angel:). For things such as this I prefer to get professional advice before making any final decisions.

[Chucaro]

I agree with your advice up to a point, because I have high regards for the knowledge of many members in this forum, and many of them with very high reputation and qualifications without any finacial benefit on their inputs ;)

In my post I only suggested to go to a high crank capacity.

Cheers

[disco2hse]

I agree with your advice up to a point, because I have high regards for the knowledge of many members in this forum, and many of them with very high reputation and qualifications without any finacial benefit on their inputs ;)

In my post I only suggested to go to a high crank capacity.

Cheers

Sorry. I wasn't pointing the finger at you. That was just how the order appeared. When I started typing your post wasn't there yet.

I was just making a general observation. I too have done/not done things because of the huge wealth of knowledge and experience on this forum. That does not stop me from getting direct advice from a pro. I will not necessarily buy from said pro, especially if I get the impression that they are just trying to offload their latest piece of electrickerycrapola on me.

A case in point. My last foray down to the sparky was to sort out my charging problems (24V with 2x12V batteries). The solution was in the back of his van, an old charge equaliser that he used to have on his own truck. We installed that and no problems since, fingers crossed. Why'd we go with that? Because none of the new stuff is built as tough. I went with what he had and I knew he was going to make a few bucks out of me. We all need to feed ourselves. But would I recommend that in this instance? Probably not.

[roverrescue]

The bit i dont get is this
"I'm currently looking at different battery combinations for my Defender at the moment. The limiting factor being the height of the terminals due to them being mounted under the seat." Assuming this is a tdi fender the terminal height isnt a show stopper?

I use marine batts parralled in the fender. You can fit two N70Zs under there?
I prefer the Century Marine Pros and use them at sea and in the fender? The N70ZM size is now a 700CCA rating (up from 600) with two year warranty. If your worried about welding the seat to the terminals slide in some insertion rubber.

Regards.
Steve

[harro]

The bit i dont get is this
"I'm currently looking at different battery combinations for my Defender at the moment. The limiting factor being the height of the terminals due to them being mounted under the seat." Assuming this is a tdi fender the terminal height isnt a show stopper?

I use marine batts parralled in the fender. You can fit two N70Zs under there?
I prefer the Century Marine Pros and use them at sea and in the fender? The N70ZM size is now a 700CCA rating (up from 600) with two year warranty. If your worried about welding the seat to the terminals slide in some insertion rubber.

Regards.
Steve

That's exactly what I did.
I also sliced off the top part of the terminals that is not being used.

Cheers,
Paul.

[Tombie]

Go to the CAT website and look up batteries there...

They have what you need at a much nicer price :cool:

[VladTepes]

Tombie did you get my most recent PM ? What actual CAT batteries are you running in the Defenders? I'm wondering about both starting and deep cycle batteries.

Thanks Tombie (and indeed anyone).

ALso haven;t been able to discover who the CAT battery retailers around here might be - the lookup function onthe website isn;t working.

[isuzutoo-eh]

I have an N70ish sized CAT battery for my 2a, oddly enough it came from CAT themselves...

[VladTepes]

I can;t find anyone that sells Exide orbital batteries in Brisbane (preferably norther brissie).
ANyone know ?