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twitchy
22nd August 2010, 07:26 PM
Is it normal for the raised springs to sit one side higher than the other????????
Installed some raised springs today & I have 20mm difference in height:eek: Didn't think it was normal... Ideas peeps?!?

Oh & for the why didnt you search question!! Bugger off I did:p

bee utey
22nd August 2010, 07:52 PM
Bought some D1 springs once from TRS and yes, they are different side for side, can't remember which side gets the longer one. Check the height of your stockies.:)
Probably just need to swap them side for side at the back or something.

460cixy
22nd August 2010, 09:07 PM
drivers side

Iain_B
22nd August 2010, 09:41 PM
Check to see if they are left and right sets - my King springs have a "left" and "right" spring both front and back.

twitchy
23rd August 2010, 05:01 PM
has settled today to about 10mm difference. They are out of the Disco I bought for bits so I don't know as to which should be left or right. :D

Does anyone have the standard ride height for a series 1?????????????

Dougal
23rd August 2010, 07:28 PM
drivers side

Passengers side unless you have a 400+lb driver.

460cixy
23rd August 2010, 10:02 PM
Passengers side unless you have a 400+lb driver.

and whats the point of haveing heavy springs in the pasenger side un less ya misses is half a ton. generally the driver side springs go to the drivers side but make sure your not putting two rear springs on one side or somthing silly the bigger wire dia spring will be the rears and there will be two springs that are slightly taller then the others these go to the drivers side un less you have a big kiwi misses

Dougal
24th August 2010, 06:00 AM
and whats the point of haveing heavy springs in the pasenger side un less ya misses is half a ton. generally the driver side springs go to the drivers side but make sure your not putting two rear springs on one side or somthing silly the bigger wire dia spring will be the rears and there will be two springs that are slightly taller then the others these go to the drivers side un less you have a big kiwi misses

Because the longer passenger side springs correct for the camber in the road so the vehicle sits flat.
All my nissans come this way from the factory, the right side (unloaded) is 5-10mm lower than the left.

If you put longer springs in the drivers side, then on flat ground your vehicle leans to the left, when on a cambered road your vehicle leans even further to the left.

Aside from an often repeated urban legend, I can find no reference or reason for longer springs to go in the drivers side. Drivers weight doesn't cut it, the difference in spring length is always more than they can be compressed by the weight of any normal driver.
And then what happens when you're carrying more than just a driver, the springs are even more wrong.

rick130
24th August 2010, 06:43 AM
Dougal, Land Rover appear to fit the longer spring in the DS, and I think (but might be wrong ?) that ARB/OME springs are labelled this way too.

Driver, t/case and steering gear weight ? (oh, and half the prop shafts would be considered sprung weight too :D)

Dougal
24th August 2010, 06:53 AM
Dougal, Land Rover appear to fit the longer spring in the DS, and I think (but might be wrong ?) that ARB/OME springs are labelled this way too.

Driver, t/case and steering gear weight ?

I've weighed my rangie side/side and the drivers side came out 60kg heavier. I put this down to driveshafts and diffheads, the majority of which are all unsprung weight.

My rangie drives best with the longer springs in the passengers side, but the springs I'm currently running are close to equal length so the difference in length is only natural variation.

Interestingly the original front axle from my RRC has the radius arm mounts welded on wrong, with this axle fitted I needed about 20mm of spacers in the drivers side springs to make it sit level. With a later disco axle in the front it sits level with no spacers.
I originally put this down to previous owners misadventure, but now I think it's landrovers own jigs being out. Most early rangies lean and I think this is why.
Fix the radius arm brackets and they drive soo much better.

disco2hse
24th August 2010, 07:06 AM
I think it's landrovers own jigs being out

Probably not.

Their engineers are pretty good actually and I think they are/were able to do their sums.

rick130
24th August 2010, 07:08 AM
I've weighed my rangie side/side and the drivers side came out 60kg heavier. I put this down to driveshafts and diffheads, the majority of which are all unsprung weight.

My rangie drives best with the longer springs in the passengers side, but the springs I'm currently running are close to equal length so the difference in length is only natural variation.

Interestingly the original front axle from my RRC has the radius arm mounts welded on wrong, with this axle fitted I needed about 20mm of spacers in the drivers side springs to make it sit level. With a later disco axle in the front it sits level with no spacers.
I originally put this down to previous owners misadventure, but now I think it's landrovers own jigs being out. Most early rangies lean and I think this is why.
Fix the radius arm brackets and they drive soo much better.

60kg isn't much overall, and I agree, a lot of that would be the diffs.

Land Rovers with dodgy tolerances ?
Who'd a thunk it :lol2:

Dougal
24th August 2010, 07:17 AM
Probably not.

Their engineers are pretty good actually and I think they are/were able to do their sums.

Engineers doing their sums has nothing to do with the welders not giving a damn.:angel:

disco2hse
24th August 2010, 07:25 AM
Engineers doing their sums has nothing to do with the welders not giving a damn.:angel:

And welders ability has nothing to do with jig design/accuracy.

Dougal
24th August 2010, 07:41 AM
And welders ability has nothing to do with jig design/accuracy.

So everything that's ever been welded on the **** was the design engineers fault?:wasntme:

disco2hse
24th August 2010, 07:46 AM
So everything that's ever been welded on the **** was the design engineers fault?:wasntme:

That's not what I said.