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pc3
27th August 2010, 12:31 PM
"Beware the Chinese Tiger"
I have taken the plunge on the TigerZ with the rope. I could not afford the warne winch and I did read that they too are now manufactured in China ? unsure of this, but there warranty was only 12 months.
The Tiger Z has a 3 year warranty, I would possibly need in anger once a year and at $845 I thought it fits my wallet..............the warne does not at $2000+.
Leaves me some $$ to put towards dual batteries.
Allan
27th August 2010, 01:53 PM
I fitted a T-Max to the wife's 90 for the same reason. Not used it in anger yet but its there. Ive got a 9000 Warne on the 110 and only used this once in 18 months. Time will tell I suppose if my decission was correct but at over a grand difference in price I can replace the T-Max again and still have change.
Allan
pc3
27th August 2010, 02:42 PM
Yeh I just cant justify that $$ on winch. I have a black Rat Trifor that a work mate is interested in buying that will cover some (almost 1/2) the expense of the TigerZ. I had been carting that Hand winch around for past couple of years, its brand new never used......so there is part of the evidence for not spending massive dolllars on the big flash Warne.
101RRS
27th August 2010, 03:06 PM
I have taken the plunge on the TigerZ with the rope.
When these winches come with wire you usually get about 28m - how much rope do you get?
Garry
pc3
27th August 2010, 03:41 PM
not sure how much rope, I defintely wanted the rope just to save some weight. Unit weighs 23kgs with the rope.
nice1guv
27th August 2010, 03:50 PM
When these winches come with wire you usually get about 28m - how much rope do you get?
Garry
The Tigerz ones also have the same 28m of rope. Tigerz11.com.au (http://www.tigerz11.com.au/)
Ranga
27th August 2010, 03:55 PM
I put on a 12,000lb Tigerz with rope a few weeks back. Used it once in anger to pull a mate out (they know who they are :p) who was well stuck, using a snatch-block. Worked fine. Also, don't forget to take you're controller with you when you go offroad! :wasntme:
coolblues_au
27th August 2010, 07:48 PM
We also have a 12,000lb on our 110 and it has worked fine. We fitted a second battery with a redarc and never had an issue. A great winch for the price.
101RRS
27th August 2010, 09:42 PM
How do you guys find only having 28m cable. I think I would find it too short. My 101 has 60m of cable and on both times I have used it I have had to use nearly all the cable plus an extension strap. Thankfully the load was not too great that I would have to use a double line pull. Electively, having less than 14m available for a double line pull means winching points need to be close.
The reason I ask is that I have a spare 15,000lb electric winch (similar to the Tigrez) that I will put in my rear tow bar hitch point and it has only 28m of cable so just interested how that small amount of cable works in practice - hence my earlier question about the length of rope as I had incorrectly assumed you would get more rope than cable.
Cheers
Garry
LowRanger
28th August 2010, 07:57 AM
Garry
I remember back in the 70's and early 80's when winches became popular on recreational 4wd's that the standard length cable on most electric winches was 100ft.We never had any problem with that length,and we also carried long wire slings and herc. alloy chains to add length if needed.100ft seemed about as much cable that you would comfortably wind on a recreational winch drum,due to the diameter of the drum.
In commercial winch applications,the whole winch and drum is larger ,allowing much more cable to spooled on the drum.
I may be old fashioned,but I still carry a wire sling and herc alloy chain,for emergency use.
Wayne
Ranga
28th August 2010, 09:34 AM
How do you guys find only having 28m cable. I think I would find it too short. My 101 has 60m of cable and on both times I have used it I have had to use nearly all the cable plus an extension strap. Thankfully the load was not too great that I would have to use a double line pull. Electively, having less than 14m available for a double line pull means winching points need to be close.
The reason I ask is that I have a spare 15,000lb electric winch (similar to the Tigrez) that I will put in my rear tow bar hitch point and it has only 28m of cable so just interested how that small amount of cable works in practice - hence my earlier question about the length of rope as I had incorrectly assumed you would get more rope than cable.
Cheers
Garry
Not much experience with winching (yet), but never had a problem with the length. If I do, I also have a winch extension strap.
DeeJay
28th August 2010, 12:36 PM
My Tigerz 12,000lb has been used 3 times in anger now, one was a full winch with no rest. The only issue with synthetic rope is that when fully wound out & on an angle, the locating lug nicked the rope & took a chunk out of it. It would be better design to have that lug- which is on the side plate- placed closer to the drum, or perhaps a rounder screw on the drum itself. Other than that it's performed well.
stace70
28th August 2010, 03:11 PM
any of you guys have an issue with the length of cabling back to the battery???
VladTepes
28th August 2010, 03:28 PM
ranga did. not enough of it.
Desitgned for jappers obviously.
roverrescue
28th August 2010, 04:25 PM
Just coming on 2 years for my Tigerz, see
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/projects-tutorials/74789-tigerz-ii-winch-stripdown.html
for a 6 month strip down...
Since then it has been used heaps - my current favourite recovery included one stuck to the gills 200series in black soil mud. That 3 tonne luxo-barge just wouldnt get up out of the muck instead wanting to submarine. We had the 130 chained to a tree, a Hilux with Warn9000 chained to a tree and cut trees down to make a ramp to get the tank out of the mud. Im dreading how stuck it might get on thr Bathurst track this novemeber if we get early rain...
One notable thing is the Tigerz solenoids may be "sealed" but they still suck water and rust AND the solenoids dont have 3 year warranty so when they can die. I replaced the pack and made it a little more water resitant and will just keep the maintanence up to it.
Steve
stace70
28th August 2010, 05:12 PM
vlad.....thought so......ben from tigerz suggested i might need to attach a run of 2 or 3 b&s to get it to the battery....I will let people know in about 2 weeks when i fit it....anybody else know for sure and approx which route to the battery and how much extra wiring
Utemad
28th August 2010, 05:43 PM
I had to do a double line pull last weekend. I felt the cable is too short for this and it is a bit hard to use a standard extension strap as they don't go through the pulley very well :D
Luckily I was only doing it to better position my camper when setting it up in soft sand :)
This is using a Warn M8000 that is 18 years old. I wonder how long the Chinese winches will last?
Possibly just as long if they get as little use as mine looks to have had. I've only owned it for 4 of those years and it is at least 3rd hand.
coolblues_au
28th August 2010, 06:33 PM
We found the power cables way to short for our use so we joined them with soldered joiners. The joiners were then sleeved with heat shrink. We get around the short rope with a chain and dogs. Its a good systen for our use. Did the same thing with a Warn on a Landcuriser we had before the landy. Never been short of rope that way. Have had to resort to a snatch rope on the chain at times as last resort but always got out.
roverrescue
28th August 2010, 08:31 PM
Stace, unless Tigerz have increased the cable length, it will be too short to reach from winch to underseat for a fender.
I bought sufficient HD welding cable and crimped lugs for each end. Cables run from box along passenger chassis rail out through front panel and to the winch.
Steve
Ranga
29th August 2010, 08:57 PM
Stace, unless Tigerz have increased the cable length, it will be too short to reach from winch to underseat for a fender.
I bought sufficient HD welding cable and crimped lugs for each end. Cables run from box along passenger chassis rail out through front panel and to the winch.
Steve
Agreed, this is what I did. Totally replaced the cable from the controller to the battery, and mounted the controller under the bonnet to keep it out of the muck and arseholes. Now thinking about adding a dash mounted switch.
stace70
1st September 2010, 06:40 AM
Ranga,
what size cable did you replace it with???
Where abouts under the bonnet did you mount.....any pics??
Cheers Stace
BTW one week till I get the 130:D
Ranga
1st September 2010, 04:57 PM
Ranga,
what size cable did you replace it with???
Ummm... thick! Not sure what size it actually is, but similar to the cable it came with.
Where abouts under the bonnet did you mount.....any pics??
Cheers Stace
BTW one week till I get the 130:D
Photos attached. Not great at night with the phone, but hopefully you get the idea.
Next job is a dash mount controller.
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