View Full Version : Permantly mount Black Max compressor or Not ?need air tank?were to mount in Puma130?
pc3
30th August 2010, 01:54 PM
Folks,
I picked up a brand new black max air compressor at a decent price.
1. Do I need an air tank with this that I see for sale ?
2. Should I get it hard wired in and were is best spot for 130 dual cab Puma ?
3. I just need to pump some tyres up etc. and general duties.....blow dirt out of my rifles etc. :D
the_chisholm
30th August 2010, 03:13 PM
I'm currently looking to fix my ARB comp permanantly underneath the rear seat.
Also, i'm trying to chase up an air tank to plumb in for simmilar purposes...:cool:
On my last vehicle (Patrol cab chassis) i had a 20 l tank underneath the tray, this was scavanged from an el-cheapo 240v compressor, However there is no where to fit it to the 110.
pc3
30th August 2010, 03:28 PM
Do these little compressors work without the air tank ? Do you need one is what I am trying to determine.
cheers Paul.
roverrescue
30th August 2010, 03:44 PM
Not sure on a 110 but on a 130 you can fit a 20L tank scavanged from a cheapo 240 comp under the drivers sill (Battery box takes too much room on passenger side).
I have a sheet of chequer Al as a guard over the tank and everything is up above chassis line.
On a true rock crawler it may take a hiding but for what I do its perfect.
Steve
pc3
30th August 2010, 03:48 PM
Do you need the tank ?
Or can the compressor work without a tank ?
the_chisholm
30th August 2010, 03:52 PM
These style of compressors work well at inflating tyres, but without a decent supply of air (tank) they really cant deliver the volume of air required to 'blast' dust/dirt out of something.
If you want to blow out something, filters dust etc, a small tank will work well.
Also if you have enough air/pressure you have a fairly good chance of re-seating tyre beads...
5teve
30th August 2010, 04:12 PM
As it was pointed out to me recently...
A tank is great for doing small stuff and maybe running a small air line. however if you stuff 120psi in there and try to do some tyres from 18-40 psi, chances are you may only get one tyre before the tank is empty (just guessing) then your back to the flow that the compressor can output (ie not generally fast)
Personally i would still go for a tank (when i get round to it) or 2 as at least the initial resevoir of air shortens the time for airing up marginally.. and i'm sure i could find uses for using a supply of air for something else..
with the tank you will need a pressure switch so that it cuts out at the right point and watch the duty cycle of the pump.. i'm pretty sure i have seen some nice set ups on here somewhere..
I know you have the compressor already but TigerzII also do compressors and tanks.. maybe worth a look at the tanks if you decide to go for one...
Thanks
Steve
4wheeler
30th August 2010, 06:31 PM
Another thing to note when using a tank set up is the rated working outlet pressure of the compressor. Many compressrs are rated at around 50 PSI working pressure. Trying to pump up a reservoir tank to 100+ PSI will strain the compressor rings and valves not to mention the extra current draw and potential for overlaod. Don't push the limits too far. A relief valve should also be fitted to the tank over and above a pressure switch just in case the compressor can pump out the 100 PSI+ mark. This will preserve airlines and fittings should the compressor run too long and the pressure switch fail.
I have a Thomas Twin Tongue compressor set up in a portable box. I can move it from vehicle to vehicle. It has a high output. By not having it fixed I can pump up other vehicle tyres easily by taking the set up to them which is great on club trips. If you mount the compressor in the engine bay make sure the air inlet and compressor is in a dry place with minimal dust. This will kill even the best compressor in no time. Clean the air inlet in dusty situations. My back up for short weekends in a larger group is to use a breathing apparatus cylinder with high pressure regulator. I can pump up all the tyres on 5 - 6 vehicles in the time most compressors will fill 4 tyres. It's my party trick on trips!
VladTepes
31st August 2010, 04:39 PM
You want to blast dirt out of your rifle ? What the heck are you doing to the rifle that needs that remedy ?
stace70
1st September 2010, 06:31 AM
I have one of the twin tongue portable kits ...... it has been great without tanks and with a rifle on the front of a quad in grips and another quad in front it can sure get some dust on/it even wrapped in towel etc.....it has often been used to effectively blow dust out until I give it a thorough clean at home.
austastar
1st September 2010, 02:24 PM
Hi,
I've seen a set up with 'T' pieces and hoses that uses the spare tyre as a reservoir to get the extra oomph to seat a bead, or to air up a bit quicker.
It's some thing on my to do list.
cheers
pc3
1st September 2010, 04:05 PM
Folks,
have been thinking about it I dont think I need a hard wired kit, for pumping up tyres etc. I think maybe just leaving it portable for the moment might be the go.
VladTepes
1st September 2010, 04:13 PM
need and want are different though eh !
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