yalta 1600 offshore

[bcj]

Thinking of buying old Yalta 1600 h/cab glass boat with '97 Johnson 70 on it, hull's in good nick for it's age with no repairs- just wondering if anyone's had any experience with one of these offshore
Brett

[bblaze]

Only a little boat, I think its wrong to label a boat off shore. I had a 20 footer that was off shore capable and spent a lot of time upto 70km off shore.
That said yalta is a well know hull brand and would appear to have a reasonably match motor. Take a real good look at the transom remembering that sitting around getting an ingress of fresh water into the transom will do more damage than saltwater. Have a good heavy jump on the floor and check for flex. reomove the drainplug and check for water (color and smell), if there is rot in the timber stringers you can smell it.
cheers
blaze

[bcj]

Thanks- good advice, I'd really prefer a newer ally boat & I'm hesitant to buy an old glass one(been there), but this one looks real good for it's age (been kept in shed) and I can afford it, whereas it'll be a few years before I can afford what I want.:(
Brett

[LandyAndy]

Thanks for the posts guys.
In the next 12 months I hope to buy a boat.Im in the same predicament.Buy a cheap doer upper with no experience that I can afford or wait till I can buy a good unit.
Andrew

[bblaze]

A lot of joy can be rebuilding an old hull. Hull design hasnt changed that dramaticly over the last 50 years. My last boat was a 20 foot "hartley" design, great sea boat. It come about by the guy I purchased it off turned a 20 foot ply hartly upside down and took a mould off it and built the boat. Old proven design with modern materials in fibaglass. I did a parcial rebuild when I first got it and in the third year I had it I got caught 50km off shore in 6 metre seas, standing straight up with no backs in them. Had a couple of free falls and broke her back. It was then I did a complete internal strip of all timber stringers etc and replaced them with fibaglass stringers and bulk heads.
If you are going to rebuild make sure you do it right as there is a lot of older boats out there with their problems masked.
cheers
blaze

[UNDEROVER]

Hey Brett,

there is a bloke down my way that has got hold of an old glass Haines forward control/runabout style boat in good nick and chopped it to make a great centre console out of it.
Provided you don't mind a bit of work, it's a great way to get a boat you want without paying a fortune.
I know you want a tinny, but my next boat will be fibreglass, and after having tinny's for quite a long time, you can't beat the ride of a decent glass boat.
Tinny's have their place, but for comfort/ride quality go the glass...:)

Cheers, Matt.

[LandyAndy]

Hey Brett,

there is a bloke down my way that has got hold of an old glass Haines forward control/runabout style boat in good nick and chopped it to make a great centre console out of it.
Provided you don't mind a bit of work, it's a great way to get a boat you want without paying a fortune.
I know you want a tinny, but my next boat will be fibreglass, and after having tinny's for quite a long time, you can't beat the ride of a decent glass boat.
Tinny's have their place, but for comfort/ride quality go the glass...:)

Cheers, Matt.

There was a similar project on a WA Fishing forum,Fishwrecked.
One of the members bought an old glass cabin cruiser for next to nothing,cut all the cabin out and made it into a centre console.
Looked good,did a top job,cant do that easily with a tinnie.
My preference is for a plate ali boat,but would consider doing the above if I got the donor real cheap;););)
Andrew

[Pedro_The_Swift]

its all a compromise Andy,,
anything good off shore will be very tender,, and anything remotely stable at rest will be terrible off shore,,

except a cat;)

[bcj]

procrastinated to long & missed out on boat- thanks for input, very nearly bought it, looks like I'll stay in the river with the tinny for now
Been sussing out some flat pack plate alloy boats that look ok & are reasonably priced- might have to invest in a TIG:D
Brett

[LandyAndy]

procrastinated to long & missed out on boat- thanks for input, very nearly bought it, looks like I'll stay in the river with the tinny for now
Been sussing out some flat pack plate alloy boats that look ok & are reasonably priced- might have to invest in a TIG:D
Brett

Brett
I too stumbled across them on the net too once upon a time.
They seemed realy well priced,Ive never tackled ALI welding,only ever heard its not easy.Have a MIG,would grab a TIG for the job.
Andrew

[bcj]

Yes a TIG is the way to go for a job that big,I wouldn't consider using my MIG
I've welded most metals but ain't tried alum yet,did some lead burning years ago that took a bit of practice.
I much prefer welding than playing with f/glass
Father in-laws neighbour is a retired alum boat builder that still does a bit in his shed,I plan to drop around for a few and a chat next time I'm down that way
Brett

[roverrescue]

There is no way Id want to weld up a 5ish metre tin can with a hand feed tig.

Solid MIG unit with 100% duty cycle external wire feeder and short whip or if youve the coin a push/pull gun.

Maybe GTAW for the finishing touches but welding long seams youd be crazy NOT to use wire feed.

I tinker a bit migging Al with a simple 200A machine, short whip and teflon liner. No real problems. But when boat building youll be "up and in over and under" and need to NOT be limited to 2m from the box.

But getting back on topic ;) my general rule of boats

# Up to 4.5m in length - this is the realm of tin cans with generally double the manufacturers hp rating to perform adequately :)
# 5m to 8m - absolutely HAS to be glass - no ifs no buts!
# Greater than 8m - preferable somebody elses boat!

Steve

[Tombie]

its all a compromise Andy,,
anything good off shore will be very tender,, and anything remotely stable at rest will be terrible off shore,,

except a cat;)

Exactly!!! Go the Cat!

[Tombie]

The toy!