Best spot for d shackles;bull bar points or steering guard points?

[pc3]

Whic is the best and safest place to mount recovery shackles on my arb bar or the points that are on the after market steering/sump guard I have installed ?

[ScottW]

Why not both?
Recovery hooks would be better mounted on the steering guard as it's a stronger location and is better held by the chassis, bullbar and bashplate. However once you are stuck in the mud, it's going to be fun trying to find them and hook on the tow rope. Mounting them on the vertical bit of the bullbar as low as possible with a large backing plate should be adequate, and much easier to access when you are bumper deep. :D

[trailcutter]

Whic is the best and safest place to mount recovery shackles on my arb bar or the points that are on the after market steering/sump guard I have installed ?


what model arb bar ..is it the latest incarnation ??

if so there r horizontal holes fitted,,set up for 4.75 bow shackle.....suggest you have a saddle between to spread load if hauling out ofa mineshaft etc etc

[stace70]

beat me to it trailcutter....those horizontal slots are for hi lift jack as well as for shackles.

[austastar]

Hi,
I've seen the "T" slots for hi lift jacks, but am somewhat foxed as to how they would be used for a shackle connection.
If some kind soul could throw some light on the subject it would be appreciated.
cheers

[trailcutter]

beat me to it trailcutter....those horizontal slots are for hi lift jack as well as for shackles.


just as well i wern,t racing;)

[trailcutter]

Hi,
I've seen the "T" slots for hi lift jacks, but am somewhat foxed as to how they would be used for a shackle connection.
If some kind soul could throw some light on the subject it would be appreciated.
cheers


as stated .horizontal hole in 10-15 ml plate.l & rh side uprights.

shackle fed between plate , alligned to accept pin.....pin thru hole .

pin in vertical plane............shackle on side.:D

[LowRanger]

Whic is the best and safest place to mount recovery shackles on my arb bar or the points that are on the after market steering/sump guard I have installed ?


The points on the ARB bar will be manufactured as recovery points,but as stated,the load should be spread across both sides.Hopefully the bar was mounted using the correct rated mounting bolts.
I fail to see how anyone can comment on the steering/sump guard without seeing the guard or the mount types.

Another possibility,very common on Land Rovers is Jate rings,which mount direct to the chassis.

Wayne

[mox]

Saw somewhere once an article pointing out that when you pull a coil spring Landy by something attached to the chassis and the wheels are stuck in mud, it puts a very heavy load on the radius arms and the angle of them tends to push the wheels downwards. They were offering a setup, supposedly with a patent at least pending that involved having cables permanently attached to each side of the axles. These were tied up with light string behind the bumper /bull bar. If stuck in the mud, you could attach a tow rope to the other ends of them. As soon as tension was applied, the ties would break and you would have effectively an A frame that pulled the axle. Would be tension on the radius rods pulling the rest of the vehicle, not compression. Also,would be tendency to pull axle upwards out of mud rather than push it downwards.


Has anyone used such a setup? Would be interesting to hear comments.
Note one on the rear would work the same way for recovery backwards.

[isuzurover]

Saw somewhere once an article pointing out that when you pull a coil spring Landy by something attached to the chassis and the wheels are stuck in mud, it puts a very heavy load on the radius arms and the angle of them tends to push the wheels downwards. They were offering a setup, supposedly with a patent at least pending that involved having cables permanently attached to each side of the axles. These were tied up with light string behind the bumper /bull bar. If stuck in the mud, you could attach a tow rope to the other ends of them. As soon as tension was applied, the ties would break and you would have effectively an A frame that pulled the axle. Would be tension on the radius rods pulling the rest of the vehicle, not compression. Also,would be tendency to pull axle upwards out of mud rather than push it downwards.


Has anyone used such a setup? Would be interesting to hear comments.
Note one on the rear would work the same way for recovery backwards.

You mean this?
YiCaN introduces Axle Direct Recovery. Website:www.yican.com.au (http://www.yican.com.au/ADR/ADRMain.htm)
Waste of money IMHO. I have never seen radius arms etc, damaged during recovery.
If you really wanted one you could have one made easily - but I wouldn't.

[alien]

As a rule of thumb my sugestion is,
When using the winch with a pully/snatch block I come back to the bull bar.
So the winch is only pulling the bar with the Landy attached.

If being snatched I try to pull off the chassis and not the bar(crush cans ect. to think about).
Idealy with a bridle to spread the load down both rails.

[Brawny]

The points on the ARB bar will be manufactured as recovery points,but as stated,the load should be spread across both sides.Hopefully the bar was mounted using the correct rated mounting bolts.
I fail to see how anyone can comment on the steering/sump guard without seeing the guard or the mount types.

Another possibility,very common on Land Rovers is Jate rings,which mount direct to the chassis.

Wayne
Jate Rings....the Poms seem to love these but i never hear much mentioned in oz about them. Are they good, bad or not popular for whatever reason. I think they make sense as a robust recovery point.