Optus Cable Networks

[RaZz0R]

Hi All,

Just recently I upgraded my connection to 120 gigabyte per month, with the order I ordered a new speed package which required a new modem.

Being in the IT work world this had me wondering - so today they came along with a new modem, VOIP ports as well which I think is nice, wireless... its a Cisco DPQ3212.

So talking to the tech I asked what they did... in short, they have upgraded the local & main routers & added more channels to the cable per modem.

Max local download speed from optus is now 8 megabytes per second!! Thats USB 1 speed.

[101RRS]

But isn't the signal still coming down a crappy old Telstra owned (leased to Optus) copper line through and ancient Telstra owned exchange (line relays leased to Optus) with the copper lines still running through water filled line junction sumps owned and maintained by Telstra.

Bring on a fibre optic network.

Garry

[dale]

But isn't the signal still coming down a crappy old Telstra owned (leased to Optus) copper line through and ancient Telstra owned exchange (line relays leased to Optus) with the copper lines still running through water filled line junction sumps owned and maintained by Telstra.

Bring on a fibre optic network.

Garry

This is via the Pay TV Coax network which Optus owns (I think) not thorugh are high quality copper phone network.

All I can say is if you can get a cable Internet connection get it and dont look back. I am so gelous as all I can get in my newly built house is ADSL1 :(

[Lotz-A-Landies]

This is via the Pay TV Coax network which Optus owns (I think) not thorugh are high quality copper phone network.

All I can say is if you can get a cable Internet connection get it and dont look back. I am so gelous as all I can get in my newly built house is ADSL1 :(Yes Optus owns the cable - in some places there are both Optus and Telstra cables in the same street - often on opposite sides of the road.

I've been on Optus cable since they ran the cable down my street (was Optushome domain name at that time). Originally when there was almost no-one on the cable network the speeds were really fast, but I have noticed significant speed reductions over the years. Probably as more and more users gobbled up the bandwidth.

Is there a big price difference?

BTW: the Optus cable is fibreoptic to the local node and then coax copper to your home. It'll be great when they extend the fibre to your home! :D

[p38arover]

Max local download speed from optus is now 8 megabytes per second!! Thats USB 1 speed.

So that's not the new Supersonic cable connection they've been touting lately? I get the 8Mbps on my Optus cable connection.

[milld]

8 megabytes/sec is amazing, much more than 8 megabits/sec or 8Mbps

1MBps = 8 Mbps

[milld]

I just gave OPtus the boot and got Exetel naked DSL, 50 a month you get 30G download peak and 180G offpeak. Coupled to Engin voip plan = 19.95 a month gives you 400min or 200 calls free to mobile a month. 10c untimed std and local calls.

So I don't have to pay for line rental anymore and the max I pay per month would be a little over $70 :)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I just gave OPtus the boot and got Exetel naked DSL, 50 a month you get 30G download peak and 180G offpeak. Coupled to Engin voip plan = 19.95 a month gives you 400min or 200 calls free to mobile a month. 10c untimed std and local calls.<snip>Not a lot to do with Optus cable though is it.

You are still tied to Telstra's corroded old twin wire copper to get your VoIP and more than that I have a personal distaste to people on the other end of the line using VoIP.

The call starts with no one on the line, some seconds later just as you are hanging up and a faint voice in the distance fades in. When someone in their house access the internet, you get all manner of clangs, clicks and spriongs in your ear while the caller fades out and sometimes back in, but mind you many times the call is gone forever.

Give me Optushome broadband cable 100 times before any ADSL VoIP gets even a look in.

Diana

[milld]

mmmm, a lot of people don't correctly set up voip, use the wrong codecs, or don't have quality of service setup. When it's done correctly there's next to no way of telling your on voip. As you know the long delays are mainly due to call centres located in India or the likes.

Have a good voip provider and correctly setup, your on your way to save some big money with good call quality period.

That corroded copper serves nearly every business and home in Australia from pstn to Basic rate onramp 2 ISDN to Primary rate 30 channel ISDN for both voice and data.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

mmmm, a lot of people don't correctly set up voip, use the wrong codecs, or don't have quality of service setup. When it's done correctly there's next to no way of telling your on voip. As you know the long delays are mainly due to call centres located in India or the likes.

Have a good voip provider and correctly setup, your on your way to save some big money with good call quality period.

That corroded copper serves nearly every business and home in Australia from pstn to Basic rate onramp 2 ISDN to Primary rate 30 channel ISDN for both voice and data.To take your last point first: That corroded Telstra copper doesn't serve my house for phone or data and I know it doesn't serve P38aRon or RaZz0R for data (which is 50% of the data service providors in this thread) and people on WiFi don't rely on Telstra's copper either.

Secondly, the setup of VoIP should not be a problem for people (with hard wired telephones) receiving a call from someone on VoIP which is my complaint.

[milld]

It would be nice to be in Sydney or Melbourne to have cable wouldn't it, but there are millions of people who don't have access to it including me. I'm sorry to say but copper still dominates overall for use in homes and businesses Australia wide. Every business and home has something whats called a main distribution frame or MDF. homes are fed via a 2pr copper cable usually and businesses usually have a 10pr,30pr, 50pr or a 100pr copper lead in cable. Most PABX's and PBX use either a PSTN or ISDN service which is through the use of copper and backbone through optic fibre or straight fibre in some instances. Most data for businesses and the home Australia wide is still used through broadband or straight DSL connections. Larger businesses tend to rely on multiple ADSL connections through load balancing routers. Cable isn't available to most Australians ;)

Oh, and any calls I receive that have that delay, I simply hang up because it's always some bastard overseas trying to sell me something. Voip calls on average depending on what codec is used only uses around 60Kbps of bandwidth, which is sweet **** all, set up correctly it sounds good. Too many noobs don't set it up right.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/1292.jpg

You forgot to mention that people living in Brisbane also have access to Optusnet cable.

However the question about VoIP and Telstra copper is moot, because the thread is about the Optusnet Cable speeds.

It would be the same as posting about your Kruger .22 on a Defender forum!

[milld]

I'm just responding to faulty information that's all, and my short comment on voip and ADSL/saving money I feel was a valid thought for people considering breaking away from the ties of line rental. + it still to do with internet. It's just when people start slandering something they don't know much about that I feel I have to correct.

cheers :)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I understand that you are trying to assist people make the correct IT choices and it would/will be good when the vast majority of Australians have access to fibre to the home technology - should they desire it (and I wonder why so few people in the bush voted for the NBN).

However my question on the cost of the superfast Optusnet cable have not been answered, while we've been debating irrelevancies of the nasties about Telstra copper and VoIP.

Diana

BTW - some of the VoIP where I have problems receiving calls from, are not overseas call centres but are even people on Foxtel/Bigpond cable in Sydney, so the Telstra telephone copper shouldn't even come into the equation. But it does and is annoying!

[milld]

yeah it would be nice for all to have fibre to the home, but the cost would be astronomical. Fibre terminating equipment Fusion Splicers have come down in price but it's still expensive stuff to work with and time consuming. Even the connectors are expensive. Fibre cable itself is quite cheap though. I can't even fathom the amount of work needed to be done to achieve this.

I can't comment on the cost of superfast Optusnet Cable, but I'm quite jealous of those who have it lol

[Lotz-A-Landies]

yeah it would be nice for all to have fibre to the home, but the cost would be astronomical.
<snip>
I can't even fathom the amount of work needed to be done to achieve this.
<snip>I can't even start to fathom how much money 43 billion dollars is either! :o

Although I would like to get even 1% of that in my annual paypacket! :)

[p38arover]

8 megabytes/sec is amazing, much more than 8 megabits/sec or 8Mbps

1MBps = 8 Mbps

I misread the post. (Actually, with stops bits, etc. isn't 1MBps closer to 10Mbps?)

Re ADSL, I can't get it here.

[milld]

I found a calculator online that does the conversion;



8 megabits is ;



Bits 8388608
bytes 1048576
kilobits 8192
kilobytes 1024
megabits 8
megabytes 1
gigabits 0.0078125
gigabytes 0.0009765625
terabytes 9.5367431640625e-07
petabytes 9.31322574615479e-10

[Lotz-A-Landies]

you forgot zetabits

1 Mbps = 1.11022302 × 10-16 ZBps


I misread the post. (Actually, with stops bits, etc. isn't 1MBps closer to 10Mbps?)

Re ADSL, I can't get it here.Ron

Am I to understand that you HAVE Optusnet Cable but you are unable to get ADSL? :confused:

Just shows to go you!

[abaddonxi]

I misread the post. (Actually, with stops bits, etc. isn't 1MBps closer to 10Mbps?)

Re ADSL, I can't get it here.

Ability to buy faulty goods (abfg)?

Or are you on something like pair gain? Doesn't look like you're that far from the exchange.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Did anyone read Mark Pesce's article on todays "The Drum Unleashed" ABC The Drum Unleashed - Lingering in broadband limbo (http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s3012933.htm) I thought it addressed the issue fibre to the home or a hybrid wireless system for the NBN in a way that urban and regional readers would easily understand.

[p38arover]

Ron

Am I to understand that you HAVE Optusnet Cable but you are unable to get ADSL? :confused:

Just shows to go you!

That is correct. I have Optus cable. My landline is on the same cable and so was my TV (since disconnected Optus Cable TV and moved to Foxtel satellite as it is a far better deal).

I use a VoIP phone for IDD, STD, and calls to mobiles.

I have enquired from several ISPs about ADSL and they all say it isn't available to my address.

[abaddonxi]

Did anyone read Mark Pesce's article on todays "The Drum Unleashed" ABC The Drum Unleashed - Lingering in broadband limbo (http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s3012933.htm) I thought it addressed the issue fibre to the home or a hybrid wireless system for the NBN in a way that urban and regional readers would easily understand.

Thanks, interesting article.

[wanglemoose]

I have also switched to optus, with premium speed pack, after a telstra technician told me i was lying about the speed i was getting 800Kb/sec and that in my area i could not expect more than 200Kb/sec. Now am getting 12Mb/sec with optus with pictures to prove it,so **** you telstra. Im in Brisbane by the way too.

[zuno555]

Holy cow, 12mb a second....

And to think yesterday I was pretty chuffed at downloading at 2mb a second!!

I am on Optus Cable as well in melb, have been for last 8 years, I love it. Don't need and won't spend extra $$ for the speed pack tho....