Bugger, out of Rego

[Sideroad]

I just found out I have been driving around in my 2A without rego since May. My mate pointed out the sticker last weekend while camping at Stradie and I have found that not only don't I have a new sticker to put on, I never paid it.
This leads to my biggest fear with the 2A, Safety Certificate Inspection. :(
I had to bribe and beg to get it passed last time, not that it is bad or unsafe, just old and takes effort to drive.
Most inspectors are scared of old cars in case the authorities do a 'random' inspection on their inspection.
Being realistic, I will be lucky to have it on the road by the end of the year now. Sadly I had been off the road for 3 mths while I rebuilt the drive train, fixed the blown diff and put on Paras and new shocks. It was driving well, the best ever since I got it.
:(

[Sprint]

how late in may? IIRC you have 3 months before you need a RWC

[Landy Smurf]

cant you get it to a land rover guy to do the rego

[Sideroad]

Even if it was last day in may, I am still over the 3 months. :(


how late in may? IIRC you have 3 months before you need a RWC

[Sideroad]

Maybe that would work. But on the other hand, would they know so much more they could find more wrong? :) Ill make some calls this week. I know for a fact there are a few things that must be fixed, not safety related, but things that would fail a road worthy cert.


cant you get it to a land rover guy to do the rego

[Disco Inferno]

Physically go to transport and plead your case first, not via the phone. Face to face with cash in hand may get you further and save rwc dramas.

Cheers

[Shonky]

Maybe that would work. But on the other hand, would they know so much more they could find more wrong? :) Ill make some calls this week. I know for a fact there are a few things that must be fixed, not safety related, but things that would fail a road worthy cert.

Probably not.

Go to a decent landy specialist who deals with series trucks. They know that they leak oil and there is nothing you can do about it. They know that they don't brake as well as a new car. They know that the steering is vague. Most of all, they know that this is normal and ALL of them do it. ;)

[isuzutoo-eh]

And if said Landy specialist is familiar with Series vehicles then you won't have to argue whether seatbelts, windscreen washers, reversing lights etc are compulsorary or not

[Landy Smurf]

your chances are way higher with a landy specialist

[Gumnut]

Hi,

Don't drive it anymore!! I have recently noticed little groups of new, old or indescript cars beside the road roughly in the same places as RBT's are held, each with no plates here in ACT.

I am told that the police check rego during RBT, and pull plates off any found unregistered, and issue a fair sort of fine - unreg & uninsured, possibly unlicensed/suspended and possibly DUI. What a trifecta!

And they have some gadget that can spot unreg cars on the run or in passing and much the same result.

And lots of advertising in the paper about NSW speed/red light cameras detecting rego as well.

Cheers,

Andy

[Shonky]

Yep - it's called ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition).

Cameras on the police vehicles scan the plates and match them against the database as they drive around.

If it reads your plate and notes that you havent paid your expired rego, it makes nasty noises and tells them which car is the victim...

The you get in a world of hurt. :(

As has been said, don't drive it until you have paid it, or get a permit to get you home. ;)

[Sideroad]

No way will i keep driving it. I just never thought to look at my sticker. Better that my mate noticed then a not so understanding cop.

I agree with you all, a landy specialist would be used to all the issues a normal inspector would have problems with. Seat belts and oil leaks are a good example.
I will now focus on getting it ready and attacking those little things that get forsaken when new springs and blown diffs are around. I may even go to town and put the bumper bar back on and wire the tail lights properly. (i did a temporary 5min finger twist and tape job to get home about 1.5 yrs ago and that is how it stayed)

Thanks for the advice.


Hi,

Don't drive it anymore!! I have recently noticed little groups of new, old or indescript cars beside the road roughly in the same places as RBT's are held, each with no plates here in ACT.

I am told that the police check rego during RBT, and pull plates off any found unregistered, and issue a fair sort of fine - unreg & uninsured, possibly unlicensed/suspended and possibly DUI. What a trifecta!

And they have some gadget that can spot unreg cars on the run or in passing and much the same result.

And lots of advertising in the paper about NSW speed/red light cameras detecting rego as well.

Cheers,

Andy

[scrambler]

Make sure you tell the inspector what happened and that you plan to keep the car. I won't say they are more lenient with people who will drive the vehicle themselves ;) but they are particularly careful with vehicles that are being sold to possible unsuspecting first-time Landy owners.

[Sideroad]

Good point. I have had many inspectors ask the question before. I suspect a road legal series sold to a none rover person could seem like a leaky old death trap that should come standard with a boat anchor to help with stopping.


Make sure you tell the inspector what happened and that you plan to keep the car. I won't say they are more lenient with people who will drive the vehicle themselves ;) but they are particularly careful with vehicles that are being sold to possible unsuspecting first-time Landy owners.

[digger]

Yep - it's called ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition).

Cameras on the police vehicles scan the plates and match them against the database as they drive around.

If it reads your plate and notes that you havent paid your expired rego, it makes nasty noises and tells them which car is the victim...

The you get in a world of hurt. :(

As has been said, don't drive it until you have paid it, or get a permit to get you home. ;)

AND in SA it also checks to see if,
=the car is defected,
=the owner is licenced and if they have conditions on licence
(eg glasses, curfew or incorrect class for that type vehicle etc)
=warrant check on owner
='wants' check on owner...


and does it all within 1-2 seconds!! (impressive!!)

try walking in to motor reg asap with cash (and cap) in hand...dont let on you know about inspections etc BUT plead that you need it asap etc etc

OR

sell it to me cheap!! :)

(annual or renewal inspections.... Ive heard about them...but not here!)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi,

Don't drive it anymore!! ....

<snip>

And they have some gadget that can spot unreg cars on the run or in passing and much the same result.

And lots of advertising in the paper about NSW speed/red light cameras detecting rego as well.

Cheers,

AndyThey do have some gadget - called Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) attached to every camera in a highway patrol car and also used on tripods. The ANPR has the registration information of every car in the state and is also linked to a database for criminal warrants of household members at the registered address.

The fine is about $1,500 - $750 for driving an unregistered car and $750 for driving an uninsured car and I believe it is 4 demerit points.

Just not worth it!

[peterg1001]

The fine is about $1,500 - $750 for driving an unregistered car and $750 for driving an uninsured car and I believe it is 4 demerit points.

Just not worth it!

Is there a legal way to drive an about-to-be-registered car to an inspection station for a blue slip?

When I registered the FJ40 I just drove it there, but now I'm getting worried.

Peter

[reubsrover]

Good point. I have had many inspectors ask the question before. I suspect a road legal series sold to a none rover person could seem like a leaky old death trap that should come standard with a boat anchor to help with stopping.

Yes that's what I thought when I picked up my lately accquired SIII, felt like I was learning to drive again. :eek:

[COFFEY76]

I read this thread and my stomach turned.

Ive just been through all the engineering and inspection business and I understand the feeling of possibly having inpectors look at your car not understanding what they are looking at!!

I wish you best of luck. I think you should go and speak to the manager in person at RTA or where ever and just be honest with him.

I found my engineer to be fairly understanding about the car. "It is what it is" so there are people out there that arnt totally dumb.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Is there a legal way to drive an about-to-be-registered car to an inspection station for a blue slip?

When I registered the FJ40 I just drove it there, but now I'm getting worried.

PeterPeter

Take the plates off the car, ring the blue slip inspector, make an appointment with him and drive directly there. Same if you need mechanical work first. That is legal. You don't need to show a "Traffic" sign in place of the plates but it doesn't hurt!

If you are worried you can also get a Unregistered Vehicle Permit for the day or period. Just be aware that it you hit something on the way without a UVP you have no 3rd party personal insurance, so you have to pay for any injuries out of your own pocket.

For those suggesting asking and pleading with the RTA for leniency - don't bother - the RTA has no heart and no feelings. 3 months is the cut off - after that it's a blue slip inspection.

Diana

[scrambler]

Peter

Take the plates off the car, ring the blue slip inspector, make an appointment with him and drive directly there. Same if you need mechanical work first. That is legal. You don't need to show a "Traffic" sign in place of the plates but it doesn't hurt!

If you are worried you can also get a Unregistered Vehicle Permit for the day or period. Just be aware that it you hit something on the way without a UVP you have no 3rd party personal insurance, so you have to pay for any injuries out of your own pocket.

For those suggesting asking and pleading with the RTA for leniency - don't bother - the RTA has no heart and no feelings. 3 months is the cut off - after that it's a blue slip inspection.

Diana
In Qld you need to have the CTP paid in advance (direct through an insurer) and drive DIRECTLY to the inspection station then DIRECTLY to the Transport office. If the vehicle fails inspection and you plan to take it home again, you need to get a permit or tow it.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

In Qld you need to have the CTP paid in advance (direct through an insurer) and drive DIRECTLY to the inspection station then DIRECTLY to the Transport office. If the vehicle fails inspection and you plan to take it home again, you need to get a permit or tow it.In NSW if a vehicle is towed with wheels on the ground, I believe the tow needs to be registered. Otherwise it needs to be on a tilt tray.

the pre-paid CTP seems like a good plan.

[digger]

Peter

Take the plates off the car, ring the blue slip inspector, make an appointment with him and drive directly there. Same if you need mechanical work first. That is legal. You don't need to show a "Traffic" sign in place of the plates but it doesn't hurt!

If you are worried you can also get a Unregistered Vehicle Permit for the day or period. Just be aware that it you hit something on the way without a UVP you have no 3rd party personal insurance, so you have to pay for any injuries out of your own pocket.

For those suggesting asking and pleading with the RTA for leniency - don't bother - the RTA has no heart and no feelings. 3 months is the cut off - after that it's a blue slip inspection.Diana



just forinfo,this is very much NOT the case in SA!!...Thats about a grand on the spot and normally a defect inspection on the spot!

[peterg1001]

Peter

Take the plates off the car.

Diana

I don't think that'll be necessary :)

The car hasn't had plates while I've owned it (2 years now) and didn't have them with the previous owner.

Never mind, not long now. There's a bit of body work left to do (a floor would be good), then the electricals, which are straightforward.

I'll get the web site up to date Real Soon Now, and put up a link. In the meantime, here's the latest pictures.

Also a picture of Mark (isuzu-too) picking up the SWB roof.

Peter

[series3]

Very nice Peter!

[isuzutoo-eh]

Very nice Peter!

Yep I agree...very tidy job, every single part has been reconditioned. And under all that shiny fresh galvanising and paint, it still has a lot of character.

That day we learnt that SWB hardtops don't quite fit in iMax vans with the middle row of seats in place :( I got it home okay though Peter, Thanks.

[peterg1001]

And under all that shiny fresh galvanising and paint, it still has a lot of character.

I think that means all the original dings are there under the paint . . .

Peter

[isuzutoo-eh]

I think that means all the original dings are there under the paint . . .

Peter

:angel: the original dings being the factory applied ones :p

P.S. the big bit will be on the lawn near the County and the little bit will be on the passenger seat of the 2a, my nosey neighbours shouldn't be around but if they are, tell them I am swapping some bits for another old Landie. That should go down like a lead balloon and shut them up.

[peterg1001]

P.S. the big bit will be on the lawn near the County and the little bit will be on the passenger seat of the 2a

Thanks Mark

[Sideroad]

I spoke to FWD Brisbane about a road worthy, but they do mech work and only prepurchase inspections.
I also spoke to my usual mechanic, but he warned me that he could not be lenient (eg. oil leaks, etc), but is more then happy to inspect it to tell me all the faults.
Does anyone have a Land Rover biased mechanic in Brisbane that does road worthies?