Longranger Tank Questions

[mowog]

I am getting my Longranger Aux tank and Kaymar rear bar fitted next month.

Is the fuel transfer from the Aux tank automatic?

[Tombie]

No.. You have to pump it there (press the switch :D )

[Blknight.aus]

you can setup a transfer relay that powers up the pump when the low warning light comes on and leaves it on till the transfer pressure/flow drops to 0.

[Disomania]

mowog,

how much is this going to cost if you don't mind my asking? I've been considering putting the long range tank system in - not sure which version.

[Disomania]

you can setup a transfer relay.......

Is this something you need to do yourself, of is it a kit you can fit (or if like me and a bit impatient, so stuff things up, get an expert to fit)?

[mowog]

mowog,

how much is this going to cost if you don't mind my asking? I've been considering putting the long range tank system in - not sure which version.

Its going to cost $5400 with the Kaymar rear bar paint matched. Not a cheap exercise. But when towing the caravan you really need the extra fuel. Around town we will only have to fill it every month or so after the tank is fitted.

[Disomania]

That's not as bad as I thought it might be. Appreciated.

[Blknight.aus]

Is this something you need to do yourself, of is it a kit you can fit (or if like me and a bit impatient, so stuff things up, get an expert to fit)?

its not available as a kit straight off the shelf that Im aware of.

given the schematic for it and the instructions pretty much any mechanic should be able to install it purchasing the parts as required.

its fairly DIY though if you want to save a motza of dollars.

[Disomania]

Something to keep in mind. I guess that the push button transfer is simple enough though.

[ADMIRAL]

The Longranger switch is neat, and the pump is audible ( loud ) if you are outside the vehicle. Dependant on how it is wired in, it is not something that you will forget about, if you are halfway through pumping over.

There are gravity fed options that are ok. I must admit I was sceptical about them, but they do work. Essentially the main filler is rerouted to the new aux tank, and this in turn gravity feeds into the OE main tank. No pumps, and it will keep your main tank full. I suspect you won't know how much fuel you have though, until the main tank actually starts to run down, as I don't believe they have a gauge as std.

[DiscoWeb]

Its going to cost $5400 with the Kaymar rear bar paint matched. Not a cheap exercise. But when towing the caravan you really need the extra fuel. Around town we will only have to fill it every month or so after the tank is fitted.

Mowog,

Does this include the spare wheel carrier etc as I assume you need that once you fit the AUX tank where the spare currently is ?

Any idea of the additional weight of the bar.

George

[mowog]

George,

That price includes...

The Aux Tank & fitting on top of that is the cost of full tank at the price of the day.
The Kaymar Rear bar with a Right hand spare wheel mount colour coded to the car.

Weight sorry no idea.

[Nomad9]

Hi Discomania,
I bought the long ranger and the Kaymar dual wheel carrier, you have to fit the tank first before you fit the wheel carrier if you do this the other way round you can't get at the captive nuts for the fuel tank. I put some high density insertion rubber between the tank and the chassis to try and reduce any flexing in the tank caused by the chassis flexing, if it does. I've checked a couple of times the tensio on the bolts they haven't loosened off.
The fuel filler nozzle is a bit fiddly but if you take your time and follow the instructions you should be right. There are two long bolts that you have to install for two brackets on the dual wheel carrier between the wheel arches and the chassis, if you remember to put them in place when you are installing the tank great, if you forget like I did then unless you take the tank out again it's impossible to get them in. Mines been on for nearly two years now and is still fine, it's a solid peice of gear and heavy to put on yourself I used my engine hoist to assist.
If you allow yourself the right amount of time, if you push yourself to do this in a day you'll make mistakes and no doubt draw blood at some point. Allow a few days to cruise through the job and read the instructions you'll be fine.

[Garry]

This may have no relevance, however

I had the rear bar and lonranger fitted on the back the bullbar and the winch fitted on the front

My tyres started wearing on the inside, brand new ones as all the work was done in a few weeks of each other.

I never had the alignment done as the tyres I took off were worn very evenly, prior to fitting the extra gear of course. We never considered doing it because of this fact

Maybe there is someone else out there that has encountered this

My friendly Landrover mechanic never attributed the wear to the extra weight but would not rule it out

Anyway

It was just a thought

G

[Nomad9]

Hi Garry,
This is a good point, I had my alignment checked after I'd fitted the accessories and I also filled the tank up then I got the suspension adjusted, and yes it did need adjustment.
I forgot to mention that bit.

[cookiesa]

Adding that much weight to an independantly sprung vehicle is asking for tyre wear issues if you don't fix the alignment. But it may also be worth considering just how much extras weight you have added and if a suspension upgrade wouldn't be a wise choice.

If your getting the suspension done then it will need alignment anyway.

[Nomad9]

Hi Cookiesa,
Not sure what you mean by "upgrade", when I spoke to LR they told me as long as the vehicle GVM didn't exceed the manufacturers spec I would be right, I suspect this would be from a legal perspective than the load limit of the air suspension. I wasn't aware there were upgraded suspension air bags. I'm waiting for the top and botom bushs to show signs of wear I'm almost certain I'll be up for premature failure of the wishbone bushes.

[CaverD3]

No upgrade of air bags, no need OEM are very robust. Air suspension should self level to the same alignment setting when loaded, it's designed to do that, so why would it change with addition of extras? :confused: Coiler; yes it would change.

It may change the extra weight may change the handling characteristics so different loads on the tyres? Playing with tyre pressures may help.

D3s need regular alignments anyway.

[Neil P]

Totally unprotected 2mm aluminium ....... no wonder they're banned
in the 'States ......... remember the Pinto four person BBQ ?

[CaverD3]

Pintos ran on petrol though.
Never heard of a fire on a long range tank.
Wouldn't be difficult to legistlate a lining though.

[cookiesa]

Sorry was thinking coils not airbag, but alignment may very well have been altered, worth checking.

As for the tank they are made out of Alumised steel, not to be confused with aluminium, basically they have an aluminum coating to reduce rusting. They take a hell of a bashing and are quite strong.

[CaverD3]

Besides in a D3 the other vehicle is your crumple zone. :D