Does anyone have these fitted??

[dullbird]

HID DRIVING LIGHTS 9 INCH 35W OFFROAD 4WD 4X4 LIGHTS - eBay 4x4 Accessories, Exterior, Car, Truck Parts, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 02-Oct-10 15:52:31 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HID-DRIVING-LIGHTS-9-INCH-35W-OFFROAD-4WD-4X4-LIGHTS-/220663439808?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item336090e1c0)

I'm thinking about giving these lights a go....
We had Roo lights fitted to the car but have to change them due to water ingress.

Has anyone used these before?
I like the look of them and I also like the idea of having a HID light but for less then a second mortgage.:D

If no one has then I'm happy to give them ago..maybe I could do a short write up.

However if anyone out there has had them and thought they were ****..let me know and I wont waste my money:)

[dmdigital]

A few of the vehicles in town have them fitted. They seem to be available under several different brand names. Haven't heard of any problems. I try and get some info from one of the guys at work if I remember.

[twodoors]

There is a thread on here somewhere where someone has a set..... They are very similar to the Catseyes that Piranha are selling...... Looked but so far cant find... Got a feeling they also appeared in one of the 4x4 mags this year...

Will keep looking

James

[dullbird]

yes I think I remember that thread because I think I commented on the thread that I was thinking of getting some..but I have a feeling that they were the smaller ones 6/7"

[slug_burner]

I think it was Joel (B92 8NW) that got a pair.

[dmdigital]

Now you mention it all the ones I've seen in town aren't 9". They'd be 7" I suspect as they aren't as big as my 240mm LF.

How would you mount 9" lights on your A-frame above the winch? I suspect they'd come up above the bonnet:confused: You would probably have to rebuild that as a lower mounting point.

[dullbird]

you think so? I have 7" ones on at the moment and have a fair bit of room around them...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/09/725.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/09/726.jpg

[dullbird]

actually I have found some in 7" so perhaps I will look at getting these ones

HID SPOT SPREAD BEAM LIGHTS 7" OFFROAD DRIVING LIGHTS - eBay 4x4 Accessories, Exterior, Car, Truck Parts, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 25-Sep-10 19:21:39 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HID-SPOT-SPREAD-BEAM-LIGHTS-7-OFFROAD-DRIVING-LIGHTS-/220660218914?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item33605fbc22)

[rijidij]

Look like the same ones you can buy direct from the 'country of the manufacturer'......... Aliexpress (http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/263701575-PAIR-9-HID-XENON-DRIVING-SPOT-SUV-LIGHT-9-INCH-4WD-wholesalers.html) ........... works out to about AU$244 including freight for a pair, but they are both spot beams, in that listing anyway.

Cheers, Murray

[rijidij]

Here's some 7" ones from the same mob..............PAIR 7" HID XENON DRIVING LIGHT SPOT OFF ROAD 7 INCH 4WD (http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/267994814-PAIR-7-HID-XENON-DRIVING-LIGHT-SPOT-OFF-ROAD-7-INCH-4WD-wholesalers.html)

[dmdigital]

Hmmm, I'd say you are right, 9" would fit in the A-Bar section :)

[jddisco200tdi]

You could try here. They are in Perth and ship for free.

Fish Finder, Fishing Reels, Solar Panels, HID Driving Lights | Shoreline Imports (http://www.shorelineimports.com.au/index.php)

I bought some 6" ones and delivery was very quick.


John D - Defender 110 2.4

[dullbird]

Here's some 7" ones from the same mob..............PAIR 7" HID XENON DRIVING LIGHT SPOT OFF ROAD 7 INCH 4WD (http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/267994814-PAIR-7-HID-XENON-DRIVING-LIGHT-SPOT-OFF-ROAD-7-INCH-4WD-wholesalers.html)


I know I can get them straight from China....however like you pointed out above I have only found them in spot.

and I was thinking of getting one spot one beam...
I also think that if I buy from an oz company, then should I need to claim warranty they should go back to the Oz dealer to sort rather then me sending them back to China myself

[Snake2093]

I have 4' x 4 on the roof rack. So far they have gone well. Driven through heavy rain. No water ingress so far..lol..
The wiring they supply with then is on the small diameter, but it comes with a 20 amp fuse for each HID. I had a auto elec install the 4. He used 8mm wire, 2 relays and a single 25amp fuse.
They do certainly light the road. The only problem is that they come only in spot and no spread beam...
I just adjusted the angle a little bit..

[dullbird]

the ones I'm looking at are spot and spread

[dmdigital]

Asked today about how they go and was told no problems after 12 months.

I have diffusers on both my LF HID's the spot is fantastic on a really long straight road but you want the spread more. Depending on the beam pattern (will be different to LF where the spot goes 1.2km) I'd be inclined to go for two spreads.

[dullbird]

nah I like spots I like them lighting up the road in front makes it easier to pick out animals on road up ahead...

Thanks to my spots on the disco I have had a couple of occasions where I have been able to slow down for animals

[dmdigital]

Just remember you also want to see the side of the road - hence, as you said, spot + spread - and with the light from HID's your spread will probably go a lot further than you are used to with your current spots. I didn't intend to diffuse (spread) both lights at first either.

[dullbird]

well I guess I will see..

I had two spots on before..and liked the light
I think 1 spot and one spread is the way to go.

[dmdigital]

I guess you will, and with a lot more light :p

All the ones in town are both spreads, but that could be just what they bought. Given there's no published description of the beam pattern your choice is probably the best.

[123rover50]

Hope you dont mind if I butt in, but what do they mean when you can choose between 2000K 3000K 4000k etc all in the same wattage?

[one_iota]

This refers to the colour of the light emitted and I think that the "k" represents the colour temperature in degrees Kelvin.

The scale goes from yellowish light at the lower temperatures through white to bluer light at the higher temperatures.

[miky]

Have a look here (http://www.xenonheadlights.net/). Image changes colour temperature so you can (sort of) see the difference.


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[BigJon]

If I was only running two extra lights (which I sometimes do) I would make them both spread beams. I find spot lights don't light up the sides of the road enough. They might be OK if all you do is drive in a straight line, but whenever you come to a corner you will be driving "blind".

When I did a road trip from Alice Springs to Glendambo at night in the Laser I fitted my HID converted Hella Rig 220 bull lights. To get anything like enough coverage at the side of the road (where roos and cattle graze) I had to have the lights significantly crossed.

[dullbird]

isn't that kind of the point of having one of each though?

[Gibs]

What some people forget is that you can get a HID conversion kit for your standard Headlights, both low an high beam. Doing so plus 2 extra "Spot" Hids is all you will ever need. Your HID Headlights do the sides, your HID spots do the long range, now you light up every bloody where and all for less drain on your Landy's electrical system! :D

[BigJon]

isn't that kind of the point of having one of each though?

Could be, but realistically two good quality spread beams, especially HID, will give excellent coverage and still project more than enough light a sufficient distance down the road.

Obviously one of each will give more distance, but at the detriment of spread coverage.

How fast do you drive? You need to be able to stop in the distance that your lights illuminate. I would think spread beams should allow that. My spread beams are Hella Rallye 4000 and they are excellent with HID conversions.

I have posted pics of my RRC here before. If you find one it will give you an idea of how I feel about lights... :D

[BigJon]

What some people forget is that you can get a HID conversion kit for your standard Headlights, both low an high beam. Doing so plus 2 extra "Spot" Hids is all you will ever need. Your HID Headlights do the sides, your HID spots do the long range, now you light up every bloody where and all for less drain on your Landy's electrical system! :D


The trouble is, as has been discussed in other threads, converting your headlights to HID is not legal.

[VladTepes]

db did you buy any HID's yet? I am anticipating a review !

[dullbird]

Vlad give me a chance only put this up yesterday :lol2:

Big John my concerns about only buying spread is that this brand is unknown..there for No one has a real idea of how good they spread and how far the distance. I would hate to buy 2 spreads and find they light the road up for **** up ahead.

I appreciate the comments about the light around you but like I have said I have come across more animals actually in the road up ahead then jumping out at the side of the car. hence why I would like the best of both worlds..

I guess If I get a spot and spread and find I would do better with just spreads then I can buy a second lot put two spreads on the puma and two spots on the disco..(as that is what is currently on the disco)

as for the HID conversion kit..yes I know you can get them..problem I have is the spots I got the housing has cracked and letting moisture in, the reason I'm sourcing new lights

[dmdigital]

I think we both covered the spread/spot question well Lou. Now I'm sorry I mentioned it at all. I'd be doing the same as you though as you can always get a second spread if it comes down to it and possibly use the spot for something or sell it if it doesn't work out.

One thing I didn't notice before is they list them as 6000K bulbs. If the supplier will put a lower temperature bulb in of around 4500K you are much better off. This is a more natural light and will be less harsh than the 6000K and higher temperature bulbs. If you look at what all the mainstream manufactures supply for various applications and as OEM it is 4000-4500K bulbs. Also the lower temperature bulbs have a longer life. 6000K will be very blue white and not as good to drive with.

[dullbird]

Thanks Derek Perhaps I will ask this question..is 4500 still a whiteish light or is that temp starting to go yellow?

and don't be sorry...its good to know everyones point of view

[dmdigital]

The 4500K is still very white in colour, definitely not yellow.

[Gibs]

4500k-5000k is the best range, its the closest to pure light. Ohh, Also its only illegal to use HIDs on LOW BEAM, not high in standard Headlight's. Kits do take this into account.

Please note the following disclaimer for hidrus.com.au


HID lighting is suitable for off road use only. It is not ADR compliant or legal for road use on low beam. May be used in all auxiliary lighting and high beam.

[dullbird]

Ok Just bought some...slightly different to the ones that I posted a link of although they look the same.

The ones i have bought have a better adjustable mount..also had the bulbs upgraded to 4300k.

So as soon as I get them I will post a review if people are interested.:)

[Symo]

"Also its only illegal to use HIDs on LOW BEAM, not high in standard Headlight's. Kits do take this into account"|...... errrr close but no cigar

My understanding of the ADR's for HID is that to use HID's in normal day to day driving (not a cmp vehicle) is they must be fitted with an automatic washer system and automatic level adjustment.

My lesser other car has HID headlights from the factory for low and high beam (a small metal shield in the light assembly moves up or down when I change from low to high beam to change the focus of the light). So i have HID for both. The car is fitted with automatic head light washers and level adjustment as required by the ADR's.... When you start the car at nights the lights move down and then slowely lift automatically to acount for the load in the car.

[Gibs]

I'm talking after market retro fitting, your talking factory current model vech, big difference.

[flagg]

I'm talking after market retro fitting, your talking factory current model vech, big difference.

The both have to meet ADRs.. I looked into this and was told that if I HID I had to have a washer and leveler. retro or new, without was illegal. Note this was also from the places I was going to buy the lights from!

[dullbird]

That would make sense to me, could you imagine some one with HID's on low beam pulling a heavy trailer up a hill would be blinding for on coming traffic

[dullbird]

So they are finally here after a mess up with a parcel going missing in the post.

Ian fitted them today. However can't give you any working picks as the relay has pooped itself so as soon as that is changed fingers crossed it all works and can take pics of the light to see how they fair.

Sorry not great pics but you get the idea:)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/12/516.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/02/1240.jpg

Spot on the right side of car spread on left...will adjust them once we have light to do it with:)
Oh these lights also have the clear plastic covers on them..

Also white antenna is now a black one :angel: