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connock
20th September 2010, 07:58 PM
Hi All
I hope some one can help. tonight when engaging my hand brake it made the normal motor noise followed by a loud squeel the hand brake light flashed and the amber one flashed as well. the car would not move the brake was stuck on, so I removed the cover behing the hb lever and pulled the emergency cable so I could move my car into the garage. I rang a mate and he mentioned it may be the modulator (prob not the right name thou) that activates the brake, but I think this is mounted towards the front of car and the noise seemed to come from the right back wheel, and it did aply the brake just cant release it.

I hope some one can shead some light

PS is it safe to drive around with the hb disengaged ? I wont be parking on any steep hills, can the brake just come on when driving?

roamer
20th September 2010, 08:13 PM
My d3 did the same thing, mine was full of crap in the brake assy it self. should be cleaned and adjusted when serviced., pulling that emergency release takes fair bit of effort, feels like the cable is going to break. I certainly would not be putting it back on.
Good luck Ken

CaverD3
20th September 2010, 08:15 PM
You have had a screamer! :o

Should be ok once released. Usually just needs a clean and adjust. Mud/dust gets between the shoe and the pads causing it to get out of adjustment and can't engage properly.

connock
20th September 2010, 08:30 PM
Thanks guys that was what is what I had hoped to hear, I did start to dismantle but came to a stop when I did not have a torx 50 to get the disc off. Your right about the amount of force needed It do,s feel like its going to break.

Thanks again for a quick reply

CaverD3
20th September 2010, 08:36 PM
Check bodsys brake bible on DISCO3.CO.UK - Dedicated to Discovery 3 and LR3 Owners and Enthusiasts (http://www.disco3.co.uk) there should be instructions there for clean and adjust, otherwise it is the dealer.

CaverD3
20th September 2010, 08:40 PM
DISCO3.CO.UK Photo Gallery - Bodsy's Brake Bible (http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=4184)

or

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic25409.html?highlight=%5C%22brake+bible%5C%22

Tinman
21st September 2010, 12:27 PM
Take a look at page 3 thread titled horrible squeal from rear of vehicle, here I outlined how adjust your handbrake. Hope this helps
Cheers Tinman

charles fisher
25th September 2010, 11:39 AM
Had the same problem in my trip around Australia recently. I had LR Perth look at it. It appears that dirt and dust collects in the shoe and the result was one complete bare handbrake shoe. They said that there is a rubber grommett? which can be removed and the dirt should be hosed out periodically which should prevent the problem occuring. Will ensure during service that they perform this procedure. It was over $300 to repair only 1 side!

d3syd
25th September 2010, 08:02 PM
Oh no! Why didn't I read this earlier ??!! Just got my squealer fixed at the stealer. They replaced the entire park brake module - $1052.83 for the part alone, plus labour on top of that:mad::mad::mad:

I hope that it really did need replacement and I wasn't ripped off!!:(

connock
27th September 2010, 08:08 PM
Hi
I have followed Bodsys Brake Bible to the T but the brakes when aplied still squeal all most to a tune or rythem is there anything I may have missed? the car is booked in on Fri for a service any how and if I cant work it out Im shaw they will, just wanted to fix it myself and not have to face a possible bill like d3syd , It may be the module.:(

Tinman
28th September 2010, 10:01 AM
Try adjusting the brakes both sides so they have locked the rear wheels then apply the hand brake if the noise has gone then it's an adjustment problem, if the noise is still there it could be stretched handbrake cables or the main Unit situated behind the spare wheel above the rear diff. Have a look under the rear and make sure that the handbrake cables are held in place by their spring wire retainer. Had one pushed out when 4x4 ing in the Flinders, allowed it to hang down and rub on the inner side of the rim, just got it before it did major damage
Cheers Tinman

connock
28th September 2010, 08:21 PM
Try adjusting the brakes both sides so they have locked the rear wheels then apply the hand brake if the noise has gone then it's an adjustment problem, if the noise is still there it could be stretched handbrake cables or the main Unit situated behind the spare wheel above the rear diff. Have a look under the rear and make sure that the handbrake cables are held in place by their spring wire retainer. Had one pushed out when 4x4 ing in the Flinders, allowed it to hang down and rub on the inner side of the rim, just got it before it did major damage
Cheers Tinman


Thanks Tinman It is either the cables or the main unit, made the same noise. I have read that there is a stronger unit avalible to replace it with , is this true?

Micon
1st March 2011, 04:50 PM
Hi all,
My has the same problem, just took it to my mechanic and he said it requires a new acuator! quite from Souther is $1,200.00! owch!

does anyone know of a aftermarket or cheaper option?

thanks

Mick

Mikes defender
1st March 2011, 10:44 PM
Mine made a horrible noise.. same as discribed.. lights on the dash flashing and all the BS.. During the test drive..

Got it home took the rear calipers and drums off and blew out the brake dust, and adjusted the brakes. Just like on dads mini..

Now i have no noise or squeal. Even tested the emergency brake function. works really well!!! Ops test ok!

I read an artical in a mag about how LR had terrible electrical hand brake. I Don't think it has any thing to do with LR. Just mechanics that don't give the adjuster the required attention!!

stig0000
1st March 2011, 10:46 PM
Oh no! Why didn't I read this earlier ??!! Just got my squealer fixed at the stealer. They replaced the entire park brake module - $1052.83 for the part alone, plus labour on top of that:mad::mad::mad:

I hope that it really did need replacement and I wasn't ripped off!!:(


nope,, if you had the right fault code/ noise you need the moudle replaced,

rmp
2nd March 2011, 06:06 AM
I have heard there are moves afoot to replace it with a manual system. I'd be first in line. Shocking bit of 'design', right up there with the location of the spare wheel release. Work experience kids shouldn't be let near the cAD machine!

stig0000
2nd March 2011, 07:13 AM
I have heard there are moves afoot to replace it with a manual system. I'd be first in line. Shocking bit of 'design', right up there with the location of the spare wheel release. Work experience kids shouldn't be let near the cAD machine!

;);):o if land rover cant change the puma clutch so it dosent rattle, theres no way they would redesign the hole handbrake sys on the d4/rss/rrv,

the handbrake module is allso used for other sys in the car as well,

CaverD3
2nd March 2011, 01:19 PM
Only ever had one screamer. ;)

Fixed by adjustment. I live the EPB never really given me a problem. :D

stig0000
3rd March 2011, 10:44 PM
theres 2 types of nosie they make, if its a single screem they need adjusting and the new type pad set, of if is sounds like landrover music it needs the module replaced,