Tyre Pliers or other?

[Bushwanderer]

Hi All,
In another thread, rmp said that he carried a tyre carcase when travelling off-road and had no problems changing tyres as needed.

On my D1 (with steel wheels) I carried "Tyre Pliers" - luckily never needing to use them. However, I believe that Tyre Pliers aren't suitable for alloy wheels.

I also note Blknight.aus & V8.ian's comment about how to make the Tyre Pliers work

What are people using?

TIA,
Peter
PS: I have 17" LR alloys.

[Blknight.aus]

tyre pliers, but I just aquired another couple of different items that might be of use, when I next need to do ruibber I'll hack up apost on them.,

[Bundalene]

This previous post may assist.


http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/81544-mag-wheel-bead-breaker.html

Erich

[rmp]

I've used several tools and the best so far is:

Home page (http://piranhaoffroad.com.au/index.php/default/tyre-and-rim-separators.html?SID=59a63738b0cc1a9f0f13849bcacbf6 8d)

I've used them on my D3's 17" alloys a couple of times.

Tyrepliers do work on alloys but may damage them. They work best with at least two big, fat, strong blokes, which are obvously in short supply on the average 4WD trip.

Switching tyres on rims is not all that hard once you get the knack. Big hint - use the dropwell. Carrying a tyre only is a lot lighter, and you can store stuff in the centre. Breaking rims is quite rare so I don't see a problem with taking only 5 on an extended trip. Tyres are another matter.

However, the one time I had to deal with repair of a 20" road tyre offroad I failed, although we did break the bead using a hi-lift and a classic Rangie. They are harder to work with than 17s. Couldn't get the damn thing back on the rim for love nor money.

Note that if you do swap tyres on a rim you'll need a balance, but that won't matter very much on a slowish dirt road until you hit the next town.

[clubagreenie]

I remember changing my first tyre on a S2, the old man threw me a pair of cold chisels, 3lb hammer, tyre levers and rubber hammer, grabbed a beer and sat down to watch.

Tyre Pliers?

[camoo]

Has anyone used the T.A.R.S. Separators on 20"? I have been looking for a while at them.

I have been carry tyres around for years and if needed pull into a farm to get them changed.

The only time I didn’t carry spares I pulled into a farm and paid $1800 for 3.... the guy did say he was happy for me to camp and take a lift with the next group by... (we hadn’t seen anyone for 3 days!)

[rmp]

TARS won't work on 20", unless they've changed the design, which I doubt. Nor will any other tool. You'll need a hi-lift jack or something instead.

Getting a 20" under the dropwell to replace it....good luck.

[camoo]

good point.... the LC was ok but I hadnt thought of the dropwell with the LC 20". Maybe need to buy a couple of rims!:angel:

On that note I should be selling off the LC 18's. Out to the shed I go to take some pics and ebay em!

[Bushwanderer]

Hi All,
Thanks for your helpful replies. It looks like I can carry the Tyrepliers with confidence. :)

Best Wishes,
peter

[Bundalene]

Hi All,
Thanks for your helpful replies. It looks like I can carry the Tyrepliers with confidence. :)

Best Wishes,
peter

Hi Peter,

You are welcome to practice the Tyrepliers on some 18 inch D2 Alloys I have lying around here at our place.

I have one wheel with some cosmetic damage, so it doesn't matter if it gets further damage.

Erich

[123rover50]

Hi All,
In another thread, rmp said that he carried a tyre carcase when travelling off-road and had no problems changing tyres as needed.

On my D1 (with steel wheels) I carried "Tyre Pliers" - luckily never needing to use them. However, I believe that Tyre Pliers aren't suitable for alloy wheels.

I also note Blknight.aus & V8.ian's comment about how to make the Tyre Pliers work

What are people using?

TIA,
Peter
PS: I have 17" LR alloys.

I have 900/16,s on the FC and just carry the slide hammer type of bead breaker and a pair of big levers. Works OK. I dont think these gadget things would.

[d5disco]

R and R BEADBREAKER IS UNDOUBTABLY THE BEST. IT CAN BE USED ALMOST ONE HANDED ON A TAILGATE. EVEN A CHILD COULD USE IT. AN OPTIONAL EXTRA ALLOWS D2 ALLOY RIMS TO BE WORKED ON WITHOUT DAMAGE. IT COSTS YOU MORE THAN TYREPLIERS BUT THEN A TOW TRUCK COSTS LOTS MORE! HINT - USE A TAILGATE, NOT AT GROUND LEVEL.

[rmp]

I disagree. The R&R requires different adaptors for different alloy rims. If it fits a given rim, it is good, but it's useless if it doesn't fit and the issue with the R&R and alloys is that the R&R relies on a deep centre as per steel rims. Alloys don't have that.

(also, please don't post in all CAPS)

[clubagreenie]

Just looking at the r&r think you could make something similar but lever rather than the screw system.

Add to the list of will never eventually get to it.

[Bushwanderer]

Hi All,
Thanks for the ongoing discussion.:BigThumb:

Hi Erich,
Thanks heaps for your offer. I'll PM you when I get my "head above water".

Best Wishes,
Peter

[mickyd24969]

Camoo, how did you possibly need to change 3 tyres? Sounds like you might have an issue with your tyre pressures?

[camoo]

Mickyd,

After travelling for 12 months without a puncture in central Oz I managed to find a heap of flint piled on a dirt track 2 Christmas ago. It was a long hot set of tyre changes. The pressure was fine until the unexpected hit. A very good friend once told me not to let my ego go where my wallet couldn't follow, I heeded that advice then and ensure my pressures are correct.

By the way, how is the table you left on the gold coast highway! Better make sure your D4 has a roof rack that auto ties down.

;):p

David