ARB bullbar - finally here!

[mickyd24969]

All, not sure if it's been posted yet but ARB are finally taking orders on bullbars for the D4 - placed my order today with a ~2 week lead-time! I've gone the colour coded winch bar and will get the warn 9000 transferred from the Cruiser... Can't wait they look great!

[AGRO]

Good one

Pics and comments when all fitted would be very much appreciated

[WhiteD3]

All, not sure if it's been posted yet but ARB are finally taking orders on bullbars for the D4 - placed my order today with a ~2 week lead-time!


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$?

[Graeme]

ARB took my order in February. A week ago I gave-up waiting and now have an ECB bar fitted.

[lrdef110]

Ordered mine on 1st November. Supposed to be 40 in the first production run with more runs planned in the next few weeks.

List prices I was told are $1,931 for the winch bar and $1,769 for the non winch bar. Color coding is an extra $300.

Apparently not available for V8 or HSE.

Cheers.

[mickyd24969]

Bullbar $1685 + $360 (fitting)
Winchbar $1839 + $360
colour coding $220

[lrdef110]

Photo of D4 Bar

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/11/1497.jpg

[Disco4SE]

ARB Dandenong quoted me $2,400.00 which includes colour coding and fitting.
Time wise............around 3-4 weeks from placement of order.
Cheers, Craig

[sniegy]

ARB took my order in February. A week ago I gave-up waiting and now have an ECB bar fitted.

Graeme do you have piccies...you know....the:rulez:


;):p

[discojools]

Can you now remove headlights to fit new globes on the new bar?

[Owl]

Can you now remove headlights to fit new globes on the new bar?

Yes. Well at least you can with a D3 / ARB bar!

[CaverD3]

Not so easy if you have xenon lights as the washer makes the space too small. You need to take the plastic cowling off the back. ARB said thet there was no problem with removing the lights, so I doubt theu have changed the spacing.

[LeaRoy]

Must be good to be in the city! I have been to 4 - 6 weeks to get one in Mackay.

[Graeme]

Graeme do you have piccies...you know....the:rulez:


;):p
OK, here's my ECB. I still think it looks too bulky down below but its there to do a job, not look pretty.
http://www.aulro.com/app/data/1098/medium/ECB_001.jpg

[sniegy]

OK, here's my ECB. I still think it looks too bulky down below but its there to do a job, not look pretty.

Especially when you hide it among the bush:p:p

Thanks

[Graeme]

Bush? Bush? That's wheat, lovely healthy wheat and growing as I've not seen it for years! Its even growing on the "roadway" across the paddock. I'm going to be very busy for a long while soon. Note the vehicle height trying to keep it out of the radiator.

[Brick]

Why does the bar not fit the V8 or HSE, particularly if surround camera system not optioned?

[DiscoWeb]

Brick,

Apparently something to do with location of fluid bottles/radiator/ aircon or some such thing which is different on the V8, not sure about the HSE.

As the replacement bar fouls these part they do not suggest putting it on, but I am sure a few have, certainly on the D3 with a bit of moving things around.

Regards,

George

[Homestar]

OK, here's my ECB. I still think it looks too bulky down below but its there to do a job, not look pretty.
http://www.aulro.com/app/data/1098/medium/ECB_001.jpg

I think that looks quite good - looks more purposeful & stronger than the ARB bar.

[Graeme]

The top looks OK to me but this pic shows the deep skirt and the wierd-looking winchless cover plate.
http://www.aulro.com/app/data/1098/medium/ECB_003.jpg

[scarry]

That ARB bar looks fantastic.

Does the ARB bar allow access to the factory fitted recovery/tow point?

The ECB one doesn't look like it does,same as D2 ECB bar.

[Brick]

Does anyone know if the ARB bar allows for front parking sensors? Couldn't see any in the photos.

[Graeme]

The tow-point is below the ECB bar and is accessible.

[Brick]

Spoke to ARB man at the 4WD show in Perth today to find out why new bar would not fit HSE model. Apparently where the brackets mount on the vehicle, which they then bolt the bar to, needs to be slightly different to the other models.

He also advised there is a slight fitment issue with the new bars. There is an allowance made in the bar for vertical adjustment (up and down) but not horizontal (in and out). They were fitting up a D4 this week and ended up removing it as they felt it sat too close to the vehicle once mounted. They have advised HO of the issue and are waiting for some small mods to be made.

For those of us with a HSE, it will be after new year before we see anything.

Cheers

[bbyer]

I was looking at the picture of the ECB bar on the D4 parked in a field and wondered what sort of "grass" or crop surrounded the D4?

I assume the "grass" was planted, but wondered what I was looking at.

From my perspective here in Western Canada, our concern is moose or deer on the road, and maybe mountain goats. While one does not have the luxury of selecting what one is going to run into, the ARB looks like it would handle a deer, but for a moose, I think the ECB might be the one to install.

All a good strong bumper tends to do is tip a moose off his legs; where he next goes can be unpleasant. If he slides up onto the hood, well ...

I almost think good headlights are the most effective protection.

[Graeme]

I was looking at the picture of the ECB bar on the D4 parked in a field and wondered what sort of "grass" or crop surrounded the D4?

I assume the "grass" was planted, but wondered what I was looking at.

Its a wheat crop with grass weeds gone mad along its edge due to good rains.

Due to how the ECB bar is mounted (and maybe the ARB bar too), I wonder how much force it would withstand at the top of the bar. It is bolted to the front face of the chassis where the original metal bar was mounted and tied to the bottom of the tie rail using 3 small bolts that would sheer with enough force. Having the top bar absorb some of the force by bending would be preferable to sheering the lower bolts.

My D4 has HID high beams which now give very good road verge lighting, with the globe mountings modified to sufficiently overcome the faulty light design and get the beams down to road level. Reduction or prevention of impact is sometimes achieved with good lights.

[bbyer]

That is a good looking field then. Amazing what a bit of rain can do.

I wondered what part of Australia that was? A few years back I was in Toowoomba on the edge of the Darling Downs and I noted the terrain looks somewhat the same - but it was dry when I was there, (~1969).

Interesting your comments on how the upper pipe guards are attached on both the ARB and the ECB.

I presume that is so one can purchase the bumper minus the topworks. That is common here as the pickup set are often after the brute look rather than the protection - either that or they have their vehicles jacked up so high that everything goes under.

Maybe however, the fastening process is OK as at least most kangaroos and deer are small relative to a moose or elk and the guys here who jack up their pickups are pretty much restricted to slow speed city traffic as their trucks are hardly highway worthy.

And yes, light in the verges or ditches is probably more important than straight ahead.

[gghaggis]

Just to add to the burgeoning choices, from talking to them at the Perth 4WD show, Opposite Lock are now making their own bar for both the D3 and D4. It's steel, winch compatible and allows for front fog lights and parking sensors. It's also priced around the $1800 mark.

Looks similar to the ARB bar - the front wheel arches are trimmed back.

Cheers,

Gordon

[Graeme]

Interesting your comments on how the upper pipe guards are attached on both the ARB and the ECB.

I presume that is so one can purchase the bumper minus the topworks.
Sorry, I meant the way the whole bar is attached to the chassis. I wasn't assuming the ARB one attaches to the same lower points although I suspect is uses the same 4 (not 3) bolt holes that were used to hold the plastic bumper in place.

Edit: The lower bolts are NOT the plastic bumper bolts but 4 new larger bolts into previously-unused holes, 2 each side. Hence much stronger anchorage than I remembered.

[Bushwanderer]

SNIP
the ARB looks like it would handle a deer, but for a moose, I think the ECB might be the one to install.
SNIP

Hi bbyer,
Appearances can be deceiving.

If both ARB and ECB bars were constructed from the same material, you MAY be right. However, the ARB bar is constructed from steel and the ECB bar from an aluminium alloy. I believe that ECB use larger diameter tube in order to reduce the weakness inherent in using the Al alloy.

Best Wishes,
Peter

[bbyer]

I kind of suppose you are correct - that overall, steel would probably be the best compromise, and that is what all designs are - the least worst, so to speak.

Probably ideal would be an alloy bumper for weight and a steel topworks for what I would call ductility.

My experience with steel tubing is that it tends to slowly bend in failure whereas alloy either cracks or buckles, and kind of instantly. Others will probably not agree however.

I think the best feature of the ARB topworks design is those two triangular supports. They probably absorb the bending moments when something hits the upper rails.

I suppose all we have to do is wait awhile and some Roos will field test both designs for us.

[GeorgeK]

Bugger, I have a D4 HSE so it looks like I'm still going to have to wait for the ARB bar!
GeorgeK:(

[gghaggis]

Check and see if the Opposite Lock bar will fit the D4 HSE - it's similar to the ARB.

Cheers,

Gordon