bugger wrong colour.(Updated wrong paint)

[dullbird]

So I had some high temp paint for the engine....it said it was aluminum on the tin but the colour swatch actually looked really dark more like a cast iron which was what I was after..

did a test spray and coulen't really tell as the paint seemed quite watery even though I shock the can till my arm fell off:(

anyway I thought oh well lets give it a go....

and sure enough it is aluminum :( very light!! nothing like the swatch on the can....and it has also gone on terribly (it is only the first coat) even so I feel very sad now as it looks like I'm putting a V8 block into my series2a not a 2.25 petrol:(....

The annoying thing is if I want to go darker I have to take to it with sand paper to rough it all up again.

I guess you learn by your mistakes:(

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Bad luck DB :BigCry:

Engine enamel is always a prob for Landies, as no one makes spray cans for the OEM duck egg blue of the SIIa engines.

At least silver/aluminium is one colour that can be coloured over easily.

[dullbird]

That was the annoying thing was we originally picked up silver which was lighter swatch then the aluminum so choose the aluminum.....

oh well..

actually Diana perhaps you can tell me what this is..what is the little thing above the water pump that has the top hose atttached to it? its not like a thermostat or something like that is it?

reason I ask is I took the top hose off and part of the outlet was corroded so think I need a new one

[Lostkiwi]

Thats a bit of bad luck dullbird :( At least you got that color!! I sprayed my Holden motor with a can that said "Holden Red" on it. Now all my mates are giving me heaps because they reckon it's Pink!!!:blush:

But i don't think so! What does everyone else say?


http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/series-2-2a/29648d1286536293-norfolk-island-landy-build-007.jpg

[dullbird]

Nah thats def red mate!!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Thats a bit of bad luck dullbird :( At least you got that color!! I sprayed my Holden motor with a can that said "Holden Red" on it. <snip>
But i don't think so! What does everyone else say? That's the Holden red of the later Holden Red engines starting at HT including HQ. The 149/161/179 etc were a darker red.

[Lostkiwi]

Nah thats def red mate!!


Thanks im glad i not the only one saying it's red
I think my mates must be Color blind!!
But they have being paying out on this one for a couple of weeks now!! So thanks for the back up:BigThumb:

[Dinty]

G'day All,
The paint I have used for the past 11 years is 'Ford Gray' engine enamel, a high temp paint costs around $33.00 per can, 1 can is enough to paint a Land Rover engine
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/EngineenamelFordgrey001.jpg't=1290315636
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/EngineenamelFordgrey002.jpg't=1290315802
hope thats of some help, it does just paint straight over over paint etc, but make sure block is free of oil etc cheers Dennis:angel:

[drifter]

That was the annoying thing was we originally picked up silver which was lighter swatch then the aluminum so choose the aluminum.....

oh well..

actually Diana perhaps you can tell me what this is..what is the little thing above the water pump that has the top hose atttached to it? its not like a thermostat or something like that is it?

reason I ask is I took the top hose off and part of the outlet was corroded so think I need a new one

It is probably the thermostat housing. There are 3 parts to it:


The chunky bit that houses the thermostat and has a side opening for
The side bit that routes to the bypass hose
The top bit that the top hose attaches to.


Mine looked pretty manky, too, but when I saw the price of the replacement bits, I decided to clean them up.

Bad luck on your engine colour. I am still looking for the paint I will use on mine.

[drifter]

G'day All,
The paint I have used for the past 11 years is 'Ford Gray' engine enamel, a high temp paint costs around $33.00 per can, 1 can is enough to paint a Land Rover engine
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/EngineenamelFordgrey001.jpg't=1290315636
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/EngineenamelFordgrey002.jpg't=1290315802
hope thats of some help, it does just paint straight over over paint etc, but make sure block is free of oil etc cheers Dennis:angel:

Thanks Dennis. VERY helpful :BigThumb:

[drifter]

Thats a bit of bad luck dullbird :( At least you got that color!! I sprayed my Holden motor with a can that said "Holden Red" on it. Now all my mates are giving me heaps because they reckon it's Pink!!!:blush:

But i don't think so! What does everyone else say?


http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/series-2-2a/29648d1286536293-norfolk-island-landy-build-007.jpg

um - it's not the red I would have envisaged. I think Diana nailed it. But it's still not pink - unless you have colour-adjusted your picture and your mates are right ;)

[dullbird]

So an update...

Looks like I have used the wrong paint just to top things off:(

I was looking at the back of the can and down the bottom it says I have to bake it at 200degrees for the paint to cure....!!!!

for god sake :(

I thought I had to buy a high temp paint for the engine, but didn't realise I have bake the bloody thing as well for the paint to go off...

So looks like I have potentially wasted a whole day:(

[isuzutoo-eh]

Lou that means if it hasn't cured its easier to pressure clean off :)
But otherwise, if it dries, then baking it will happen the first time the engine comes up to temperature.

[dullbird]

Lou that means if it hasn't cured its easier to pressure clean off :)

But otherwise, if it dries, then baking it will happen the first time the engine comes up to temperature.

Thats what I was wondering,,,,

However be interesting to know if I can get the engine back in without taking the paint off before I get a chance to cure it

I have to say although not the colour I wanted its OK to leave on as long as it does dry enough that we dont rip all the paint off trying to get it back in to the chassis.

[peterg1001]

Looks like I have used the wrong paint just to top things off:(
I was looking at the back of the can and down the bottom it says I have to bake it at 200degrees for the paint to cure....!!!!
I thought I had to buy a high temp paint for the engine, but didn't realise I have bake the bloody thing as well for the paint to go off...

VHT make an Engine Enamel, and also a Hight Temp enamel for stuff like exhaust manifolds.

Both of them will dry nicely at normal temperatures, and bake at normal operating temperatures of the engine or manifold respectively.

I have to say, when I used the high temp stuff on my manifold I baked the manifold in the oven, generating a pursed-lips look from the nominal owner of the oven.

My adventures with engine paint are documented at Paint for the engine (http://greenacre.biz/landrover/916_enginepaint/916_enginepaint.htm). Despite what it says there, I eventually went with cast iron gray for the engine and manifolds.

The best match is said to be Detroit Diesel Alpine Green, but this isn't available in Australia, and US suppliers refuse to ship it.

I've got a tin of eggshell blue from Dunsfolds and most of the spray tin of Pontiac Blue if anyone is interested.

Peter

[peterg1001]

However be interesting to know if I can get the engine back in without taking the paint off before I get a chance to cure it

I have to say although not the colour I wanted its OK to leave on as long as it does dry enough that we dont rip all the paint off trying to get it back in to the chassis.

If you've used the high temp enamel, you could always hit the paint with a heat gun while it's still accessible.

Peter

[dullbird]

I dont know if its an enamel...its just a high temp paint, its the 3M stuff as I thought 3M was reasonable quality...maybe I will get a heat gun on it, will have to buy a heat gun first though:D.

I think I will just leave it the way it is and perhaps colour the exhaust manifolds the darker grey to break things up a bit :)

[drifter]

Unless you really want a heat gun, try using your hair dryer (assuming you have one) in short bursts on high. Don't run it too long at any one time or it will suffer and you will be needing to replace it.

[dullbird]

I dont have a hair dryer, however I dont think three would be to many hairdryers that would get to 200 degrees if they did I would imagine there would be a fair few dehydrated bald chicks around :D

[drifter]

Nah - it's just to speed up the drying process prior to installation.

When do you plan on putting the engine back in?

[dullbird]

Nah - it's just to speed up the drying process prior to installation.

When do you plan on putting the engine back in?

oh not for a good while yet...

will be getting all the axles and everything on first and wheels etc then engine and gearbox will go in.

i was more concerned that the paint would simplly not go off full stop and therefor come off easy

[drifter]

Ah - in that case you'll be just fine. It will dry off nicely - just smell a little bit when you first get the engine going and up to temperature. No sweat.

We started up a mates Series 1 not too long back and the smoke and stink that came off the brand new exhaust pipe was incredible. Didn't take long to go away though.

I am going to be 'heat treating' the paint job on my exhaust manifold. Her Indoors has already scotched my idea of putting it in the oven so I'll just heat it up on the outdoor gas heater. Unfortunately can't do that with the engine block so I'll be going through the same paint-on-engine experience as you. ;)

[dullbird]

well that makes me feel a lot better.

yes I might cure the manifold in the oven as I know it will fit:D..or even the BBQ like you have suggested :@)

[Tikirocker]

I had an original Red 186 in my Series IIa a few years back and that is the right red mate ... your mates are yanking your chain. :)

Simon.

[Lostkiwi]

I had an original Red 186 in my Series IIa a few years back and that is the right red mate ... your mates are yanking your chain. :)

Simon.



Cheers Mate
Yeah they have been yanking me chain a bit. Even coped it this arvo:mad: But thats what you get from Jeep owners i suppose!!

[tailslide]

I had an original Red 186 in my Series IIa a few years back and that is the right red mate ... your mates are yanking your chain. :)

Simon.

Here is an original 186 Holden Red:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/11/442.jpg

[Johnno1969]

I used Holden "Marina Blue" for my engine, which, though not perfect, is fairly close to the original (well, closer than red or silver....)

[dullbird]

I used Holden "Marina Blue" for my engine, which, though not perfect, is fairly close to the original (well, closer than red or silver....)

I wasn't looking for original colour though:).