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Mudnut
26th November 2010, 09:24 PM
I have just noticed a new rain shower inside my Defender.  It pours out of the left front roof lining on the passenger front pillar when I brake. So after sitting in the rain overnight, and I start moving, and braking,  water runs froward, and out when I stop.  I have looked for where it is coming in, and can't see anything obvious.  The seal around the Alpine window seems fine, and the join at the angle of the roof looks o.k.  I can't see that it would be the front windscreen leaking, as it only does it when it is stationary overnight, not while driving in the rain.  Any suggestions on where to look for leaks?
Thanks,
Ken
p.s. I won't reply for a few weeks, as I'm heading overseas.
landroverwa
27th November 2010, 12:10 AM
Hi Ken,
Though there are other possible sources for the leak, the symptoms you describe are identical to my previous County.  Could drive all day in the pouring rain and no water from above, however when parked in the rain always got an eggcupful on right knee when braking for the first time after driving off.
After considerable searching I spotted a dried water trail in the dust of the internal roof join 'gutter', looking down through the alpine window glass with a strong torch.
The seal around the window looked OK but experimenting with dribbling a hose on it, gradually a drop formed on the inside.  Turned out the ends of the rubber seal had not quite been cut on a true right-angle so was not quite flush at the join. (There is a special secateur-type tool designed to cut the ends square.) The fact that the seal ends were on a very slight angle was not apparent until the seal was removed.
The drips slowly accumulated in the internal gutter when parked in the rain and ran forward when braking for the first time.
Hope this helps - good luck.
Keith
lardy
27th November 2010, 02:16 AM
get used to it or get into the sikaflex lol
austastar
30th November 2010, 12:52 PM
Hi,
  any help on where to start looking would be appreciated.
I was pleased that my D130 Puma CC did not leak, I've had it out in the weather for 6 months. It is normally parked level.
I parked it in a different spot over the weekend - still level, and on moving it this morning, heard water sloshing.
Arrghhh! The passenger's deep lipped floor mat had about half a Litre of water in it.
It emptied out the door fine - I guess I now have to try and find where it is coming in.
Anyone else been down this track?
cheers
Chucaro
30th November 2010, 01:30 PM
Y have leaks on the Defe and I believe that the gutters at the front are to short and the water get trough the front gaps of the doors when the vehicle is not level.
I would look into making extension bits to the gutters to see if this fix some of the problems.
My old 109 used to have the same problem.
VladTepes
30th November 2010, 05:19 PM
Look in the files section of AULRO (see top menu) there is a "Defender water Ingress manual" (no I'm not kidding) which will help you !
PBob
30th November 2010, 08:48 PM
I have just given my Puma 110 dual cab what for, with the hand gurney at the car wash and...
no leaks into the cab!!!:cool::D:D
austastar
30th November 2010, 09:13 PM
I have just given my Puma 110 dual cab what for, with the hand gurney at the car wash and...
no leaks into the cab!!!:cool::D:D
Hi,
   Yep, did that a couple of times after muddy trips, pleased as punch that there were no leaks from that.
cheers
VladTepes
1st December 2010, 11:55 AM
I know someon who had ione of the first Pumas in the country.
It was so bad that ALL teh panels had to be removed and replaced / sealed / etc.
nugge t
1st December 2010, 12:05 PM
No leaks in my Crew Cab thus far even after a Carlovers trip...touch wood!
cewilson
1st December 2010, 09:50 PM
Y have leaks on the Defe and I believe that the gutters at the front are to short and the water get trough the front gaps of the doors when the vehicle is not level.
And that's exactly what happens
Don 130
9th December 2010, 09:57 AM
Have a look here;
http://www.legionlandrover.com/manuales/defender%20water%20ingress.pdf
austastar
9th December 2010, 09:26 PM
Hi, 
  well mine has been out in the rain quite a few times recently and no more water in the passenger's foot well.
I was wondering if it may have come in through the air inlet in the Left front guard and run down the ducting. - (Haven't a clue where/how it runs, or if it has drain holes in it.)
cheers
5teve
10th December 2010, 01:15 AM
for those that get a wet leg when they brake after rain when water pours on them from the roof above the door.. take the roof lining out and tighten all the roof bolts up! it seemed to solve my issue... i think there may have been a few leaks caused by cracks in the sealant and joins and tightening the roof seemed to help! while your at it you may as well tighten the rest of the body bolts!
Thanks
Steve
n plus one
10th December 2010, 08:05 PM
for those that get a wet leg when they brake after rain when water pours on them from the roof above the door.. take the roof lining out and tighten all the roof bolts up! it seemed to solve my issue... i think there may have been a few leaks caused by cracks in the sealant and joins and tightening the roof seemed to help! while your at it you may as well tighten the rest of the body bolts!
Thanks
Steve
Any tricks/tips to removing the lining?
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