bush kit

[dullbird]

Anyone know where I can get my hands on a polybush kit for the series in OZ..

I'm considering buying from the UK with a few other bits and peices but if I can get a reasonably priced kit here I might just buy it so we can crack on with getting the axles etc back on the chassis.

Please note I know a lot of people are against fitting poly I'm not asking for your opinion on it as I have already made up my mind.:)

there was some poly bushes already fitted to the suspension of this car by previous owner. we took them out to paint chassis.. but if I'm going to do the rest I'm going to change them anyway as I don't know how old they are.

[Dinty]

G'day All, You could try all 4x4 kotara nsw, they used to stock them cheers Dennis

[peterg1001]

I got mine from Gary Gjerde at CLR 4754 2642.

Peter

[dullbird]

yeah he hasn't had any on ebay for a while....I think he was 150bux for a kit from memory I went to buy some but none on there

[THE BOOGER]

Try gary he has lots of stock not listed on ebay usally lists stuff that sells fast slower things he keeps in the garage:)

[dullbird]

I have flicked him an email....what about shocks what have people used? I was just looking for oem really don't need anything flashy that is going to cost the earth as this car is not going to be a daily driver

[dullbird]

When I went to get a kit from the UK they were advertised as 2/3 LWB..

can anyone confirm whether the series 2a and the 3 can both use the same buch kit?

The people selling told me they can but other places I have recently looked at have had separate part numbers within their kits

[peterg1001]

I have flicked him an email....what about shocks what have people used? I was just looking for oem really don't need anything flashy that is going to cost the earth as this car is not going to be a daily driver

Try Gary again - I got some Armstrongs from him for $120 the set.

Peter

[numpty]

When I went to get a kit from the UK they were advertised as 2/3 LWB..

can anyone confirm whether the series 2a and the 3 can both use the same buch kit?

The people selling told me they can but other places I have recently looked at have had separate part numbers within their kits

Yes, they're the same.

[Aaron IIA]

SII/SIIa has the same diameter bush all round, while the SIII has a larger diameter bush in the chassis for the front springs.

Aaron.

[Timj]

SII/SIIa has the same diameter bush all round, while the SIII has a larger diameter bush in the chassis for the front springs.

Aaron.

I believe the difference is between LWB and SWB rather than SII and III. SWB has the same diameter front and back.

Dullbird it might be worth having a look at the SuperPro bushes from Fulcrum. They are not cheap but from all reports are good quality. I have them in one Game but they haven't been in there long enough to talk about reliability and longevity. In the other Game I have a set from Polybush in the UK. There is honestly not a lot of difference in price as Polybush are supposed to be the best over there in the same way that SuperPro are over here.

I am not sure that the cheap ones like Britpart are worth the money. I took some out of one of the games that had just crumbled to nothing. One of them I could not even find any bits of. I don't know what brand they were but it made me decide to go for quality.

TimJ.

[numpty]

As far as I know Tim that is correct.

[dullbird]

I believe the difference is between LWB and SWB rather than SII and III. SWB has the same diameter front and back.

Dullbird it might be worth having a look at the SuperPro bushes from Fulcrum. They are not cheap but from all reports are good quality. I have them in one Game but they haven't been in there long enough to talk about reliability and longevity. In the other Game I have a set from Polybush in the UK. There is honestly not a lot of difference in price as Polybush are supposed to be the best over there in the same way that SuperPro are over here.

I am not sure that the cheap ones like Britpart are worth the money. I took some out of one of the games that had just crumbled to nothing. One of them I could not even find any bits of. I don't know what brand they were but it made me decide to go for quality.

TimJ.


I know where your coming from Tim but I have 3 cars on the road and 1 in a rebuild unfortunately I can't afford to superpro the series when I couldn't at the time even fully superpro my disco (yes I do have some on the disco but when priced it was nearly $400 for a full set I believe the series is similar).

The disco will certainly be getting the supers before the series does as the series is not going to be a daily driver and currently all I care about is getting a set of bushes on so we can just rebuild it.

Thats what I love about polys...it doesn't matter if they fall apart in a year or twos time (as I know I'm not buying ones that will last) as they are so easy to change. and as bushes start to fail I will gradually change them for better ones bit by bit:)

[isuzurover]

I bought the poly bushes in my IIA from Bayside Springs in Brisbane. I think I paid ~$7 per bush - so $80ish all up. They might be more now.

If I was doing it again I would go superpro for the extra travel. But the current setup flexes well and the bushes have lasted a long time.


Bayside Springs & Blacksmithing

Address: 295 Redland Bay Rd, Capalaba, QLD, 4157

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[dullbird]

I have actually bought some bushes from another member that he never used I just got to source 2 bushes...it was a fair price and I will get them sooner rather then later. :)

It then leaves me a little cash t put towards the cab back of ebay I'm thinking of buying:)

[Aaron IIA]

I believe the difference is between LWB and SWB rather than SII and III. SWB has the same diameter front and back.


The difference must be between the SIII LWB and SII/SIIa/SIII SWB/LWB, as my SIIa LWB has the same diameter bushings front and rear, while a SIII LWB I worked on had larger diameter bushings on the front.

Aaron.

[landrover dave]

The difference must be between the SIII LWB and SII/SIIa/SIII SWB/LWB, as my SIIa LWB has the same diameter bushings front and rear, while a SIII LWB I worked on had larger diameter bushings on the front.

Aaron.
Series 3 LWB chassis bush at the front is a larger diameter than earlier vehicles and of course its wider. I only use genuine bushes as these give the best life and ride as well as flex. Poly bushes allow dirt and grit in the eyes of the springs, and arms on coil sprung cars, wearing the bores. Original equipment manufacture bushes are quite cheap. Some Unscrupulous parts suppliers will try to sell you crap rubber bushes ( stay away from Middelborough Rd Blackburn!) I get my bushes from Rover Parts Plus (Ballarat) or All Four x 4 (Newcastle). Skimping on suspension is false economy!!!!!!!!!!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I believe the difference is between LWB and SWB rather than SII and III. SWB has the same diameter front and back. ...
Are you sure? AFAIK the series 1, Series 2, series 2a have 40mm dia bushes all round - the only differences are the length of bush and the fact that sometimes the bushes are two short bushes instead of one long one.

In the series 3 the bush in the chassis for the front spring were 43mm diameter instead of 40mm.

I also agree with Dave, having had both, I prefer the original bush, the reason is that with urethane bushes the urethane is in direct contact with the metal of the chassis. Dust becomes impregnated into the urethane and the bush becomes a grinding wheel boring out the chassis into an oval shape, meaning that original bushes and replacement urethane bushes are undersize.

[Blknight.aus]

MR automotive stock them..

dont forget to spray the center tube with some teflon dry lube prior to setting the up.

do a dry check on them when you put them in.. the center pin should rotate in the bush and the bush should not be able to turn in the chassis.

[landrover dave]

MR automotive stock them..

dont forget to spray the center tube with some teflon dry lube prior to setting the up.

do a dry check on them when you put them in.. the center pin should rotate in the bush and the bush should not be able to turn in the chassis.

I always put antisieze on the bush when pressing the bush into the spring or chassis, This minimises the chance of the bush deforming and also ensures that you can remove it in 20 years time. I also antisieze all the bolts so they dont rust in the bush. The local springmaker does the same!

[dullbird]

Series 3 LWB chassis bush at the front is a larger diameter than earlier vehicles and of course its wider. I only use genuine bushes as these give the best life and ride as well as flex. Poly bushes allow dirt and grit in the eyes of the springs, and arms on coil sprung cars, wearing the bores. Original equipment manufacture bushes are quite cheap. Some Unscrupulous parts suppliers will try to sell you crap rubber bushes ( stay away from Middelborough Rd Blackburn!) I get my bushes from Rover Parts Plus (Ballarat) or All Four x 4 (Newcastle).
Skimping on suspension is false economy!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks for the lecture........:)

but to get this car up and running it will have poly put in.

i dont have a press which I'm assuming you need to push the original rubber in so Polys it is as much as many do not agree. we would be lucky for this car to do 500k a year once on the road. I dont think its gunna be wearing out that quick.

[Blknight.aus]

I always put antisieze on the bush when pressing the bush into the spring or chassis, This minimises the chance of the bush deforming and also ensures that you can remove it in 20 years time. I also antisieze all the bolts so they dont rust in the bush. The local springmaker does the same!

not applicable to the 3 piece polly bush sets... they have the 2 polly bush parts and a center pin generally they assemble by hand with little or no extra assistance the teflon lube assures that A, the bolt doesnt stick to the metal tube and that the metal tube doesnt graft onto the bushes themselves..

If you get the metal tube trying to turn the bush in the chassis hole your bush lasts about a week maybe 2.

[chazza]

i dont have a press which I'm assuming you need to push the original rubber in

A vice is enough to push the bushes into the springs and a puller made from a bit of threaded bar and some washers will install the bushes into the chassis.

Make sure you clean the chassis holes with a flap wheel or similar, to get all of the rust out before installing the new ones, even if it is made of plastic. I would use anti-seize in the holes, after seeing what a corroded mess the plastic bushes were stuck to on my S3,

Cheers Charlie

[dullbird]

chazza the chassis has been fully painted :)

[isuzurover]

Poly bushes allow dirt and grit in the eyes of the springs, and arms on coil sprung cars, wearing the bores.

???

[tonguewink]

Don't think so Tim...

This is like the "oiling springs will make grit accumulate between the leaves and wear them down" BS.

Won't happen in the lifetime of the part.