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stevo
11th December 2010, 07:28 PM
talking to a workmate today he has bought a V8 toy motor ute hasburnt 4 ltrs of oil in 10 000km's, told this was within spec's.

Told him that was bull**** another guy at work who is a good **** stirrer is going to write up a letter for him to send to them.

justinc
11th December 2010, 07:32 PM
Stevo, this IS a normal occurence:mad:, a gov dept here has already had an engine replacement due to running a LC200 out of oil:mad: the 'check oil daily' sticker is now placed on the dash.


JC

stevo
11th December 2010, 07:48 PM
well on the bright side no oil stains on the concrete drive:p

Nero
11th December 2010, 07:48 PM
Run the newer 70 series V8 turbo's at work (minerals exploration) and I'm not a tojo fan. In the manual it says 1 litre per 1000kms is within limits, I vaguely remember Holden getting a shlacking for saying the same thing. Some of the fleet use oil some not so much but around 2litres in 5000kms is about right the 70 series are still serviced every 5000kms.

Of much more concern with both the V8 70series and 200 series have gone to a panel style airfilter instead of a cyclonic filter, expected service life of these in dust conditions is about two weeks. Know of two 200 series that didn't get past 90 000kms due to the engine sucking dust in. While you might be able to get away with the 200 series as it tends to be family truckster but on the 70 series working mans car that they charge as much as they do for they should be taken out and shot for. Yet none of the 4WD magazines seemed to have cottened on to this situation its a major **** up IMO.

The other thing with the tojo's current diesel fuel injection system is they can only cope with about 40ml of water in the fuel so along with your stack of air filters take some new fuel filters and if that light comes on change it right away.

I can't wait till we get some of those indestructible toyota tuff vehicles they advertise, we only seem to get the one that break down need molly coddling and are seriously compromised for what they are intended to do. Must be an optional extra the boss skips on when buying them me thinks.

Ace
11th December 2010, 08:57 PM
didnt someone post a thread recently with a bloke posting on a lemon site complaining of his using 500ml of oil every 1000km.

Seems toyota are doing their best to overshadow nissan. Cant be out done now can they.

bee utey
11th December 2010, 09:12 PM
Yah, it's all here:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/118594-dude-bought-lemon-landcruiser-200-series.html

Resection
11th December 2010, 09:43 PM
I recently heard from someone at BHP Billiton Olympic Dam that they were so unhappy with the new engines that they wanted to continue with the older (?1HZ) diesel. Toyota were unwilling to do this but finally went along with the request when 500 vehicles were ordered in this configuration. Money talks as they say.
Underground mining is obviously a special case but BHP must have a good reason for avoiding the new engine...

Ace
11th December 2010, 09:52 PM
Underground mining is obviously a special case but BHP must have a good reason for avoiding the new engine...

Yeah, its ****

wagoo
11th December 2010, 10:16 PM
I recently heard from someone at BHP Billiton Olympic Dam that they were so unhappy with the new engines that they wanted to continue with the older (?1HZ) diesel. Toyota were unwilling to do this but finally went along with the request when 500 vehicles were ordered in this configuration. Money talks as they say.
Underground mining is obviously a special case but BHP must have a good reason for avoiding the new engine...

Bloody hell, a single order for 500 vehicles! This is the kind of business LandRover could have been doing had they not surrendered their market to the Japs 40 years ago by refusing to build powerful, durable hardworking 4x4s
suitable for australian conditions.:mad:
Wagoo.

CraigE
11th December 2010, 10:20 PM
Bloody hell, a single order for 500 vehicles! This is the kind of business LandRover could have been doing had they not surrendered their market to the Japs 40 years ago by refusing to build powerful, durable hardworking 4x4s
suitable for australian conditions.:mad:
Wagoo.
Orders like that can be very common in mining. Fleet replacement is usually staggered but an order is usually placed well ahead of time. An order for 500 vehicles could be over 2 year delivery plan though. There would be close to that here at Whaleback.

rijidij
11th December 2010, 11:15 PM
.......................
Seems toyota are doing their best to overshadow nissan. Cant be out done now can they.

;)

Nissan (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb102/rijidij/Funny/Nissan-Bomb.jpg)

Toyota (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb102/rijidij/Funny/V8-Cruiser-Oil.jpg)

;)

Veryan
12th December 2010, 04:23 AM
Had issues similar oil issues with our new fleet of 70 series V8 cruisers at work (near Kambalda), what I would consider excessive oil consuption (not registering on the dip stick etc), all under 40,000km and all (we got a batch of 10) have had issues on oil consumpstion. We got told the same story, its with specs and nothing unsual there....by the dealership.

Just to put it in contex my 37 year old Diesel landy (2.25 of course) uses next to no oil, and that is with a set of flogged out timing gear. I was regularly doing 800km round trips - in a day and I have had to put precisely no oil in the old girl in 5000km.

I have also been told by my fellow underground compatriates that they dont work to well underground - alternator and electrics to low and massive corrosion due to the salt. This does occur on the older engines, but not quiet as often.

Another issue we had was the stupid position of the cooler for the fuel - gets clogged up with salty mud, corrodes and leads to issues such as fuel leaks and general fuel issues.

edit - cruisers are serviced every 5000km and can be out of oil 2 days after a service. average daily km would be 200 - 300km daily. prestarts done daily, to pick up the problem

CraigE
12th December 2010, 06:27 AM
Had issues similar oil issues with our new fleet of 70 series V8 cruisers at work (near Kambalda), what I would consider excessive oil consuption (not registering on the dip stick etc), all under 40,000km and all (we got a batch of 10) have had issues on oil consumpstion. We got told the same story, its with specs and nothing unsual there....by the dealership.

Just to put it in contex my 37 year old Diesel landy (2.25 of course) uses next to no oil, and that is with a set of flogged out timing gear. I was regularly doing 800km round trips - in a day and I have had to put precisely no oil in the old girl in 5000km.

I have also been told by my fellow underground compatriates that they dont work to well underground - alternator and electrics to low and massive corrosion due to the salt. This does occur on the older engines, but not quiet as often.

Another issue we had was the stupid position of the cooler for the fuel - gets clogged up with salty mud, corrodes and leads to issues such as fuel leaks and general fuel issues.

edit - cruisers are serviced every 5000km and can be out of oil 2 days after a service. average daily km would be 200 - 300km daily. prestarts done daily, to pick up the problem

Ah Kambalda, spent 24 years there. The UG environment sure does flog out vehicles, used to see a lot of the retired vehicles, but the new batch dont seem to be made for mining. I remember when WMC did trial Defenders and to be fair they did not stack up too well UG, so stayed with Toyota. I also remember when they trialled Humvees, not commercial Hummers and while they could climb, had serious mechanical failures so did not use them either.

100inch
12th December 2010, 07:40 AM
Bloody hell, a single order for 500 vehicles! This is the kind of business LandRover could have been doing had they not surrendered their market to the Japs 40 years ago by refusing to build powerful, durable hardworking 4x4s
suitable for australian conditions.:mad:
Wagoo.
Land Rover Australia wants to be a premium brand, as far as I know. So, they step away from massive discounts, unlike Toyota.