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Busman
21st December 2010, 03:27 PM
Only in China !!:D;)

YouTube - Building a 15 storey hotel in 6 days

Slunnie
21st December 2010, 04:54 PM
Even though its only the shell it is still impressive. Prefab galore!

I wonder how long fitout took.

Lotz-A-Landies
21st December 2010, 05:09 PM
With a lot of construction in China and other parts of Asia, it may only take 15 seconds to come down again.

Zonglou Anhui 2 May 2010
http://www.peopleforum.cn/attachments/month_1005/20100502_5652af8c93b48a56e476iBLOG4fho3ZC.jpg

Shanghai 27 June 2009
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/12/718.jpg

Wuhan 6 July 2008
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/12/719.jpg

sheerluck
21st December 2010, 05:18 PM
I've seen firsthand the standard of building in China - shoddy really is an understatement.

The new factories that were built for the company I work for I really worry for their longevity. Cracks appearing in concrete support structures, water leaks, water ingress, rusty steel reinforcement......

Slunnie
21st December 2010, 07:52 PM
I've seen firsthand the standard of building in China - shoddy really is an understatement.

The new factories that were built for the company I work for I really worry for their longevity. Cracks appearing in concrete support structures, water leaks, water ingress, rusty steel reinforcement......
There is a real mix in there. Its a country that is slowly educating itself with construction - something that I also noted while over there recently. Even though that building was built in 6 days, the structure of it looks particularly rigid. It may crack with its bolt together design, but I doubt very much that it will ever fall down.

Lotz-A-Landies
21st December 2010, 08:58 PM
There is a real mix in there. Its a country that is slowly educating itself with construction - something that I also noted while over there recently. ...<snip>The problem is not necessarily with the design and specifications but with quality control and corruption in the building of them.

A recent example is the heavy oil power stations being built by a Chinese company in East Timor. The Dili Government has sacked the Chinese construction company responsible for the project. "The report, which was obtained by the Dili-based non-government organisation La'o Hamutuk, revealed a deteriorating quality of work, safety practices that were ''far below regulations'' and acts of ''environmental negligence'' at the plant sites." China's old power plants spell disaster for Dili (http://www.watoday.com.au/world/chinas-old-power-plants-spell-disaster-for-dili-20101214-18wrz.html)

In other failures it has been revealed that builders had scrimped on projects by corrupt practices like putting less reinforcing in structural elements than called for by engineers or building codes.

Slunnie
21st December 2010, 09:04 PM
The problem is not necessarily with the design and specifications but with quality control and corruption in the building of them.

A recent example is the heavy oil power stations being built by a Chinese company in East Timor. The Dili Government has sacked the Chinese construction company responsible for the project. "The report, which was obtained by the Dili-based non-government organisation La'o Hamutuk, revealed a deteriorating quality of work, safety practices that were ''far below regulations'' and acts of ''environmental negligence'' at the plant sites." China's old power plants spell disaster for Dili (http://www.watoday.com.au/world/chinas-old-power-plants-spell-disaster-for-dili-20101214-18wrz.html)

In other failures it has been revealed that builders had scrimped on projects by corrupt practices like putting less reinforcing in structural elements than called for by engineers or building codes.
And there are good works too - a real mix.

disco_thrasher
22nd December 2010, 06:54 AM
i am with you Simon i worked in China in 2004 as a training organiser for a goverment funded construction aid and Simon is right "A REAL MIX" no one mentions the builders building massive skyscrapers in the hub or ground breaking hydro electric schemes with the biggest dams been diverted ect ,there are dodgy builders everywhere ,and we prosecute at least a dozen every week here in Australia its just you dont here about them
cheers Kelvin

Lotz-A-Landies
22nd December 2010, 07:31 AM
...there are dodgy builders everywhere ,and we prosecute at least a dozen every week here in Australia its just you dont here about them
cheers KelvinNot saying that there are not good works in China, and as you suggest dodgy builders in Oz, but ask yourself how many buildings have collapsed in Australia recently?

disco_thrasher
22nd December 2010, 07:57 AM
Not saying that there are not good works in China, and as you suggest dodgy builders in Oz, but ask yourself how many buildings have collapsed in Australia recently?

but ask yourself how many earth quakes have been in oz
but yes i do understand what you saying

uninformed
28th December 2010, 05:10 PM
I reckon they do pretty good....i mean have you ever tried to read chinese? cant imagine how hard it would be to read a set of their plans :D

rovercare
28th December 2010, 05:24 PM
I reckon they do pretty good....i mean have you ever tried to read chinese? cant imagine how hard it would be to read a set of their plans :D

Step 1. assemble building

You are now complete:D

Sprint
28th December 2010, 06:06 PM
considering the low OH&S standards, the available workforce and that its essentially a prefab shell, it isnt *that* impressive

VladTepes
28th December 2010, 06:54 PM
With a lot of construction in China and other parts of Asia, it may only take 15 seconds to come down again.


My thoughts exactly !