8/9 seater defender 110

[easo]

G'day all, does any one here have a defender with the side seated cargo area? That brings the total seating up to 8 or 9. I have seen them in the UK on all models of 110 but am not sure if there are any here and also what the legal approach is toward side seats?

Cheers Easo

[Narangga]

G'day all, does any one here have a defender with the side seated cargo area? That brings the total seating up to 8 or 9. I have seen them in the UK on all models of 110 but am not sure if there are any here and also what the legal approach is toward side seats?

Cheers Easo

Must be OK due to the number of troopcarriers Toyota sell.

[GuyG]

My 110 did have the seats in the cargo area, but the previous owner removed them and the middle front seat and got a mod plate to reduce the seating capacity back to 5

[Nero]

A lot of worksite's don't allow sideways seating anymore I don't think the army do it anymore either. TBH 11 average Aussies in an 11 seater troop carried will see the vehicle overloaded an incredibly tight squeeze and the driver wasn't planning on changing gear or anything was he? The 11 seater configuration is also an optional extra the povo pack troopy comes with a 3 seater configuration and A/C is an optional extra as well.

Sorry not really helpful but I'd say side seating days are numbered legally, have only ever seen the setup in older 110's and those were the two door wagon's which haven't been sold here for some time.

[marko66]

Hi All

Easo how are you mate :):D there is a five door v8 county with side seats in the back in the noonamah area for sale. No the irony is not lost on me either mate:) :D pm me if you want to know more mate

Regards Mark

[isuzu110]

I have a 95 defender with rear seats installed and complianced. 9 seater. Also have a centre front seat that would take it to 10 seats.

It is easy to modify and get complianced in Queensland, provided you have the seats.

[easo]

I have a 95 defender with rear seats installed and complianced. 9 seater. Also have a centre front seat that would take it to 10 seats.

It is easy to modify and get complianced in Queensland, provided you have the seats.

G'day mate, is there any chance of some photos to show the wifey??

Easo

[OLR-067]

Gday Easo,

My County is a 9 seater with side seats in back. In QLd it is a Omni bus, so pay extra $65/yr CTP.Bit hard to tell from photo, but you get idea.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/01/1538.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/01/1539.jpg

paul

[pathfinder]

Paul,
where did you get the 'flip up' floor deck' in the back of your 110 ??

Looks the 'deal' to me.....
I've currently got 3x2 pine and 6x1 boards across mine and its a PITA as it can't be moved for putting big stuff in the back (shoulda bought a 130 but there ya go.......... )

Harry

[isuzutoo-eh]

I have them for my '85 110, the frames are identical to my Series 2a rear seats, and thus probably the same for all from Series 1 88/109 through to TD5 Defenders.
My 110 is registered as a 9 seat motor omnibus too, but the rearmost seats aren't fitted and I can't see evidence of seat belt mountings.

[Col.Coleman]

I have them for my '85 110, the frames are identical to my Series 2a rear seats, and thus probably the same for all from Series 1 88/109 through to TD5 Defenders.
My 110 is registered as a 9 seat motor omnibus too, but the rearmost seats aren't fitted and I can't see evidence of seat belt mountings.

Nope. The defender rear cargo seats are different. They were a dealer fitted option and cost somewhere between $2500-$3500. They are also far different from what is on offer for the Puma.

Easo. You will need to check the compliance plate. Regardless of whether you fit up genuine items or not, if the complience plate doesn't include them, you will have to get it engineered. And, good luck getting the series/county seats engineered depending on the model.

Leafers are so easy.

Also, technically, all forward facing seats must be occupied first before using side facing seats. Then there is the Adult and Child designations that were introduced.

Hence I love my Stage 1. Complienced on the plate for 10 Adults, and with a full 1 tonne plus payload, totally fine.

CC

[ScottW]

My 88 County has the rear sideways seats. Registered as a 9 seater. CTP is more expensive once you go over 8 people. That little fold down step is a must with the rear seats, otherwise it's difficult to get in to the car.

[hodgo]

Dont know what they would be like off road but plenty of room in side

[OLR-067]

Paul,
where did you get the 'flip up' floor deck' in the back of your 110 ??

Looks the 'deal' to me.....
I've currently got 3x2 pine and 6x1 boards across mine and its a PITA as it can't be moved for putting big stuff in the back (shoulda bought a 130 but there ya go.......... )

Harry


Harry,
PO installed it. Just checker with two hinges and latches.
pretty simple to knock up.Folds back and can be held to cargo barrier for bigger loads.I put all the heavy recovery stuff under there, if something goes wrong it will have to get through the plate and cargo barrier, so a safe option.

Paul

[Mulgo]

Dont know what they would be like off road but plenty of room in side

That is a 130" nor a 110". Like that middle door though. Would be good to have this shape door in a normal 130 instead of the one cut at an angle.

[Mulgo]

Easo. You will need to check the compliance plate. Regardless of whether you fit up genuine items or not, if the complience plate doesn't include them, you will have to get it engineered. And, good luck getting the series/county seats engineered depending on the model.

CC

When I converted my dual cab 130 into a station wagon I installed two inward facing benches at the rear, giving me 9 seats in total.
The most important things are the proper seat belt mountings. Get it engineered was no problem.
In NSW they call it a minibus.

Cheers,
Daniel

[Snake2093]

Hi there,

I have a have a 9 seater 99 TD5, well i should say had. Insurance killed me for them. It is classed as a mini bus when you have more than 8 seats.
I did get caught when I bought the truck. It had the fitment sticker to say they were installed correctly and within Aust standards, but the previous owner didnt get the compliance plate changed from 5 to 9 seaters.
Another thing that must be considered now, well at least in QLD. No one under the age of 9 can not be seated sideways. Due to the child restraint laws.
Hope this helps

Mark..

[Col.Coleman]

Mulgo,

It is not you cannot get side facing ones complienced, just the series type ones in defenders, as they do not have an integral base, but a couple of bits of angle, and tie on cushions. Also, to fit them as per original, they are only held in by 2 bolts through sheet ali with NO reinforcment. The Seat belts where applicable, have welded nuts on a steel subframe, but no-where neaar the coverage needed for modern complience.

Snake2093 has posted a pic of the defender model ones I spoke about, and won't be a problem. Nor would most modern integral seats with plated mountings and seatbelt fixing points.

Pre complience plates, you just drill 4 holes and viola, extra 4 dudes in the car. Can't say it is excactly safe, but perfectly legal.

CC

[isuzu110]

Mulgo,

It is not you cannot get side facing ones complienced, just the series type ones in defenders, as they do not have an integral base, but a couple of bits of angle, and tie on cushions. Also, to fit them as per original, they are only held in by 2 bolts through sheet ali with NO reinforcment. The Seat belts where applicable, have welded nuts on a steel subframe, but no-where neaar the coverage needed for modern complience.



I've had county/series seats fitted to a '95 Defender and had them complianced in Queensland. I needed to have reinforcing plates with rounded corners added but no big deal. These are the ones with just angle iron and tie-on cushions

[easo]

Cheers for the replies, its a discussion my wife are having as we already have 3 boys and the 130 is now full, however 3 is not enough and we will eventual need more seats.

I'd love to have the cash for this bloke conversion,
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/113889-130-triple-cab.html

Easo

[LoveMyV8County]

My 110 County has the seat belt mountings for side-facing seats in the load area factory fitted.

Subsequent Defenders don't have them any more which is probably why the engineer certification is required?