is this correct Holden engines in freeo's?

[It'sNotWorthComplaining!]

I know nothing on freelanders, but whilst looking on ebay, I spotted this, going through the ad pics, the engine bay shows a Holden engine cover over the diesel engine.
Is it a case now that land rover don't even rebadge the components any more? I did see a pic of a TD5 engine from a puma and that had a component with Ford embossed on it on the engine
2004 Land Rover Freelander MY2004 HSE Black A Wagon (eBay item 160518871284 end time Jan-12-11 17:17:59 EST) (http://cars.ebay.com.au/2004-Land-Rover-Freelander-MY2004-HSE-Black-A-Wagon_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ160518871284)

[BigJon]

Looks like they have thrown an incorrect pic into the mix.

Holden ECOTEC engines are petrol and not fitted to any LR vehicles (from factory).

There also appears to be at least two different vehicle interior shots as well.

[101RRS]

Freelanders have no relationship with holden - Honda yes (FL1 and CRV were designed by the same team and share similar design underneath) and Kia - same V6 but not Holden.

Not sure what the pic is - does seem to be in a east west engine though as you can see the firewall behind. So either cover from another vehicle or a pic of something like a Captiva.

Garry

[Ausfree]

:confused::confused::confused: Agree with Garry, although I do think a wrong picture is in the mix!!:confused::confused::confused:

[p38arover]

Freelanders have no relationship with holden - Honda yes (FL1 and CRV were designed by the same team and share similar design underneath) .

Is this correct? I've never seen that mentioned before.

An item in ArticlesBase notes:




It had wanted to get some funding from its business partner Honda but was politely refused as Honda was itself busy with a similar project that was to hatch the CRV. Rover was unfazed and after BMW bought the group in 1994, it launched the Landrover Freelander 1 in 1997 at about the same time Honda launched its CRV. The Freelander became an instant hit in Europe and was later introduced in the North American markets competing with the Honda CRV.




Read more: Landrover Freelander 1 ? The First Compact Suv (http://www.articlesbase.com/automotive-articles/landrover-freelander-1-the-first-compact-suv-1895986.html#ixzz19mEC8qos)


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In http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?cb40storyf.htm it is mentioned at the end that:



Footnote: The Honda connection?

It was often said that the Honda CRV and the Freelander were separated at birth. According to various unnamed sources, this is not the case: the Freelander and CRV shared no development, although Honda were aware of the car in its early stages of development. According to a project insider, "before BMW took over from BAe, Honda had a 20 per cent shareholding in Rover Group, this allowed them to see the full proposed model range of the company together with technical details. Honda senior management were shown the vehicle some six years before launch and this allowed them to beat Rover Group to market". Sadly, because Honda's development strategies were not limited by budget (and were, therefore, quicker), although the CRV started later, it hit the market before the Freelander.

[101RRS]

I have read articles supporting both positions - what came first the Freelander or the CRV. Work on the car that would become the Freelander started in about 1989 but as with the Disco update, Honda became involved in the development before 1994 when Honda sold out to BMW and did make major contributions. If you have a look under an early CRV and an early Freelander there is a lot in common design/dimension wise. Now whether Honda took the basic Freelander design concepts and then used them on the CRV after the sale, I am not sure, but certainly design work when Honda was involved contributed to the final designs of both cars.

As for Kia - the V6 in the early Carnival and V6 Freelander is basically the same engine.

Garry