Front Runner Auxillary Fuel Tank- Puma 110

[jake]

G'day Everyone,

Anyone had a Front Runner 45ltr Aux Fuel tank fitted on a Puma Defender 110, it's the one that fits under the RH rear guard. If you have had this fitted have you had any issues. Also for those in Melbourne where was it fitted.

Jake

[justinc]

reasonably easy to fit jake, but if you are running 33" tyres it'll hit.

jc

[T1ASLAV]

Hey Mate

mines a TD5 but first thing I fitted and have given the car heaps, never had a problem with the tank and found that the gaurd that came with the unit provided really good protection on the rocky stuff I have been traversing recently in the Brindies/Cotter.

[Symo]

Greetings Jake,
If its the tank im thinking it is i woulod not touch it without modification. In principal its fine but it requires the main tank to be drilled and a brass fitting to be screwed in that connects the bottom of both tanks via a fuel line.

(the 45 Ltr tank is gravity fed into the main tank so the lowest parts need be connected)

This brass fitting that screws into the bottom of the main tank cuts its own thread and the line connecting the two tanks is low and subject to snagging.

If this line or brass fitting fail for what ever reason (just dumb bad luck from that branch you ran over in the bog hole for example) you loose all fuel in BOTH tanks....

Hey, I maybe wrong but I woulod get the drawings for the tank ande see what they show.

IF you wanted to use this tank (and I am) I would replace the connection hose and brass fitting in your main tank and add a fuel transfer pump to the system to suck the last 15 or 20 litres out of the bottom of the aux tank and into the main tank via the normal fill point.

My 2c


Cheers

Peter

[KarlB]

Here are the fitting instructions: http://www.dolium.com.au/libraries/resources/Fitting_Instructions/LR%20Defender%20Fuel%20Tank%20Fitting%20Instructio ns%20(FTL49).pdf

Opposite Lock would be the obvious people to supply (via Dolium) and do the fitment.

Cheers
KarlB
:)

[CraigE]

About to fit one to my TD5 and dont envisage too many problems. The biggest issue I see is getting the threaded nipple in using a piece of wire.

[jake]

Thanks Everyone for your imput, stil undecided on this one, may go with a replacement fuel tank although I am a little concerend about departure angle. There are so many products out there. Coments aways appreciated.

Jake

[grover7488]

hey jake

check out Mudnut's thread. I dont think its a puma but essentially the same

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/projects-tutorials/120378-frontrunner-45l-fuel-tank-install-part-1-a.html

cheers

[Mudnut]

About to fit one to my TD5 and dont envisage too many problems. The biggest issue I see is getting the threaded nipple in using a piece of wire.

Hey CraigE,
See my post in "Projects and Tutorials" on Frontrunner 45l tank install to solve this issue.

Cheers,

Ken

[Brucet]

Ive had the FR fender tanks fitted to both my TD5 (last 6 years) and now my Puma (3 months).

I have done many a trip where I have needed to drive through raw bush with no tracks or tracks that were used a long time ago and never had any issues with the tanks or any pipes being damaged. Two weeks ago I travelled just over 500kms in 4 days with some seriously overgrown tracks and never had a problem.
I think most of the guys in South Africa with a 110's fit the FR tanks.

[CraigE]

OK started fitting this today and at present if I run into the engineer that designed it well:censored::rocket::bat:
If the hose inlet lines up then the bolts on the mounting bracket do not and vice versa.
They say to turn the hose in side out so you can get it on. Well I am buggered if I can get the fuel hose to do this. I would reckon it is impossible.
Any Ideas???????
As it seems to be the major point that is ommitted from any instructions.
Ta
Craig

[djam1]

OK started fitting this today and at present if I run into the engineer that designed it well:censored::rocket::bat:
If the hose inlet lines up then the bolts on the mounting bracket do not and vice versa.
They say to turn the hose in side out so you can get it on. Well I am buggered if I can get the fuel hose to do this. I would reckon it is impossible.
Any Ideas???????
As it seems to be the major point that is ommitted from any instructions.
Ta
Craig

So Craig did you burn it?

[muddymech]

we got the fuel tank and water tank fitted one of the best buys we made, so far no problems with either

[CraigE]

Very nearly burnt it.:twisted::twisted:
Eventually got it fitted sort of. There has to be a better solution for fitting the hose from the aux to the main. What a joke. After aout an hr of swearing and cursing we managed to get the hose folded onto itself by about an inch and then used one of the hose clamps to hold in place. This gave us just enough room to get it to go on. Still took about 45minutes of moving, swearing and cursing, bark of arms and fingers, sore wrist from hitting it hard on the corner of the tank. Wife with sore head and shoulder after getting out from under the car and whacking her head on the caravan.
Still not really happy with the allignement. The outerside really still needs to go back 1/2 inch so the inlet pipe lines up with the aux tank inlet, but it is ok. Managed to get the back side to go right in using a pry bar and some heavy washers as spacers.
With the lift kit will not even go close to touching the tyres.
It will be a great addition, just not sure if it is worth the 2 days effort.:eek:
Still have to refit the mudflap after some trimming.
Initially had a small leak from the Banjo fitting, but as I only dropped 20 litres in not to sure if it still leaks or not as all of that has transferred into the main. Will check in the next few days.
I am still wondering why they used a Banjo fitting and not just an elbow either threaded or welded in place for the balance pipe.
Well at least it is done except for the mud flap and the rear mount plate.:):):):)

[Mudnut]

The main pipe filling the two tanks was a real pain to get to go on. They are do not line up, and are off by about 25mm. I ended cutting the filler pipe a bit shorter, and lubricating it with diesel. Was able to get the top to sit on the pipe, and pulling the tank down to get the bottom to slide on. I don't have as much pipe on the flange as I would like, but is enough for a hose clamp to seal it properly. 4 months, and no leaking, so I am happy.

I have a tutorial on my install in projects section.

Ken

[CraigE]

The main pipe filling the two tanks was a real pain to get to go on. They are do not line up, and are off by about 25mm. I ended cutting the filler pipe a bit shorter, and lubricating it with diesel. Was able to get the top to sit on the pipe, and pulling the tank down to get the bottom to slide on. I don't have as much pipe on the flange as I would like, but is enough for a hose clamp to seal it properly. 4 months, and no leaking, so I am happy.

I have a tutorial on my install in projects section.

Ken
Ken, Your tutorial was actually invaluable and I had it printed out, thanks heaps.
As you highlighted getting the hoses on was the fun bit. Glad it is just not me and they are actually out by a little bit.
All good now, just wondering why they decided to use the banjo bolt set up rather than a welded or threaded t piece with reducer. Could be a weak point in my opinion for leaks. I am considering trying to find ot the thread size and getting one made. Not sure yet.
Cheers
Craig

[pjh4159]

I have also just fitted fuel and water tanks to my 2002 TD5 Defender :)110, I am impressed with the overall Quality of both items although I have make some additional brackets to support the right rear guard as the bracket supplied is not as rigid as the ones originally fitted to the vehicle.
I would reccomend to anyone else thinking of adding these items to their Defenders.

we got the fuel tank and water tank fitted one of the best buys we made, so far no problems with either

[110 mac]

The main pipe filling the two tanks was a real pain to get to go on. They are do not line up, and are off by about 25mm. I ended cutting the filler pipe a bit shorter, and lubricating it with diesel. Was able to get the top to sit on the pipe, and pulling the tank down to get the bottom to slide on. I don't have as much pipe on the flange as I would like, but is enough for a hose clamp to seal it properly. 4 months, and no leaking, so I am happy.

I have a tutorial on my install in projects section.

Ken

I spent a happy few hours today taking mine off and then putting it back on so i could replace the perished breather pipe that runs between the two tanks. I found it impossible to bend the fat pipe back on itself so after many failed attempts i used two of these instead...bingo...it took 30 seconds and its all done and dusted.