Puma Alarm System Advice Needed

[davep130]

hello

Can anyone help me, my 08 Puma 130 was broken into (rear passenger window was smashed) and my Waeco fridge stolen.

The thieves managed to get it through the window that they smashed!

When I discovered the break-in the doors were all still locked and the alarm system still armed. After the police dusted the vehicle I tested that opening the door whilst armed will set the alarm off and it works.

Now according to my manual (refer page 15) it states that movement within the vehicle whilst armed will set the alarm off???? I had assumed that a broken window and or the act of removing a fridge through the window would constitute this.

Off to see the dealer tomorrow, would appreciate any thoughts or advice from anyone.

Dave

[KarlB]

My 2010 Owners Manual says the same but I haven't been able to identify a movement sensor in my vehicle. Certainly the alarm has not gone off when I have left the sun roof open with the alarm armed.

Good luck with the dealer!

Cheers
KarlB
:(

[dmdigital]

Motion sensor can be fitted to the 10AS unit - I believe the top spec in UK has it - but isn't fitted in Australian spec.

[Naks]

Yeah, how bleak was I to realise a month after we bought our Puma that the SA-spec also did not include motion-sensors.

[stig0000]

sounds more like a bad place then the cars fualt:mad:;)

[LRO53]

Interesting. Just so you guys can see the motion sensor.

I've got a 2005 XS 90 here in the UK. It is fitted with all the toys.

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[dmdigital]

Same sensor as in the D1, as same alarm unit. Probably the same sensor as the D2 had as well but it had a different alarm system connected.

[newhue]

My 130 has a slight indent in the hood lining just above drivers B pillar. Thought it must be moulded into the hood lining. However I noticed recently there is nothing but air behind the indentation, and certainly no wiring.
I have no block thing on the outside of the lining, so I guess no interior motion detection.

sorry to hear about your experience Dave.

[davep130]

Thanks all for your comments

I spoke to the dealer today they didn't think there was an interior sensor but weren't sure and they were some what surprised when I showed them the manual which states that there is.

The dealer is going to contact Land Rover Australia to get some technical advice.

I suspect the answer will be as some of you have pointed out which is despite what the manual says there isn't a sensor.

I will ask what is involved in fitting it and connecting to the system.

Cheers

[stig0000]

Thanks all for your comments

I spoke to the dealer today they didn't think there was an interior sensor but weren't sure and they were some what surprised when I showed them the manual which states that there is.

The dealer is going to contact Land Rover Australia to get some technical advice.

I suspect the answer will be as some of you have pointed out which is despite what the manual says there isn't a sensor.

I will ask what is involved in fitting it and connecting to the system.

Cheers

most likly wouldent happen as for it to work in aus u will need to change the market of the cars ecus, witch is possibull but im thinking not leagle

[dmdigital]

Are you sure?
The volumetric sensor comes off the 10AS unit (sensor input and power supply), not the ECM. The volumetric sensor will trigger the alarm which will then trigger the immobiliser was my understanding. Same as door and bonnet switches.

From the wiring diagrams the harness may still be there. 3 wires terminating behind headlining above RH B-Piller, White/Black, Brown, Black. Haven't checked mine.

[solmanic]

...I spoke to the dealer today they didn't think there was an interior sensor but weren't sure and they were some what surprised when I showed them the manual which states that there is.

The dealer is going to contact Land Rover Australia to get some technical advice.

Why on earth is it that dealers know so little about the Defender? The Defender manual has had info on the interior motion sensor in it since I had my last 02MY one but they are not fitted to Australian spec models as others have pointed out. How is it that the dealer is surprised to learn this? Do they never even read these things or was he only hired last Thursday?:wacko::angry:

[5teve]

I have a 2002 td5 defender and the wiring is all there ready to be connected to the alarm system... its on my long list of things to pick up for the car... its a simple plug in job, however how it fits i do not know.. i guess just fixed into the plastic or the headlining...

Anyone have a part code for it?

Steve

[miky]

And I have been boasting to admirers (of the car) that my 110 had motion sensors fitted. That's what it says in the manual :mad:

Perhaps we don't get a separate manual for Australia?


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[Naks]

Perhaps we don't get a separate manual for Australia?.

You don't, all English-speaking countries get the same manual :angel:

[LRO53]

Australian Spec miss's out on.



That Sensor for alarm
XS, County Spec Trim Levels (Heated Seats, Screen etc etc)
rear seats if 03-05 td5 90 aus spec

Possibly a few other things i cannot think of right now.

[sashadidi]

I have a 2002 td5 defender and the wiring is all there ready to be connected to the alarm system... its on my long list of things to pick up for the car... its a simple plug in job, however how it fits i do not know.. i guess just fixed into the plastic or the headlining...

Anyone have a part code for it?

Steve

either; labeled as Alarm sensor ?
YWC102900LNF Vin (v0ta977525 to (v)5a701968
or YWC500470 (v)5a701969

[Zinke]

Connector for the wiring loom for the sensor and the interior lights is behind the headlining near the front right A pillar. Its not always a plug and play job, firstly im not sure if both alarm ECU's support it though if you have central locking it defiantly will work. Sometimes it needs enabling with a Nanocom or such like too.

Pete.

[davep130]

Thanks All for your feedback.

Dealer advised after inspection today that the sensor is not fitted in the vehicle. They acknowledged that the manual was misleading.

I will investigate the wiring and sourcing a D1 sensor and will have a go at installing, will post the results.

Cheers

Dave

[dmdigital]

Sometimes it needs enabling with a Nanocom or such like too.
Nanocom doesn't yet work on the Puma.

[Lagerfan]

Old thread but been thinking about this recently.

We regularly leave the dog in the car (yes, yes only for short spells and NEVER in the summer) and the alarm has never gone off. The handbook makes mention that it has a motion (volumetric) sensor and even goes on to say be careful about leaving windows open (specifically sunroofs) as airflow might set it off. So like this thread says I suspect it isn't there in our Aus MY13 model. Anyone else know whether this exists in later model pumas? All the docs say yes, but this thread and personal experience says no.

[DiscoMick]

The dog didn't set our alarm off when I left her in the vehicle for 10 minutes in a shady car park during the rain with the window part-down the other day. 2009 Puma 110.

[kogvos]

There's nothing volumetric in my MY15 (purchased in 2014), apart from volumes of dust.

[lump_a_charcoal]

Nothing in my MY13 either.