Key fob

[Discobaker]

Hi guys, apologies for not hitting the search button but I'm kinda in the need if a quick fix. The buttons on my key have finally given up thanks to my 3yr old having a chew on them. My question is, now I'm manually locking & unlocking my 2000 disco ES, how do I stop the alarm going off tomorrow morning at 3am when I go to work?
It sounds as soon as I open the door, I understand that manually unlocking doesn't disarm the alarm but how do I disarm it?
Cheers in advance.
Be nice Pedro :)

[Dazza67]

Try this Land Rover Remote Key Fob Discovery 2 Button Repair Pad (eBay item 200563413426 end time 08-Feb-11 17:09:05 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Remote-Key-Fob-Discovery-2-Button-Repair-Pad-/200563413426?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eb282d1b2)
many people can recommend.

I used 2 of them

Dazza

[Discobaker]

Thanks Dazza, have one on the way but that doesn't get me out of trouble with the alarm in the early hours of tomorrow morning. If I can avoid it, I'd like not to have to leave it unlocked.
Cheers mate

[AussieAub]

Thanks Dazza, have one on the way but that doesn't get me out of trouble with the alarm in the early hours of tomorrow morning. If I can avoid it, I'd like not to have to leave it unlocked.
Cheers mate

Take the rubber out now, and use the end of a pen or something simlar to press the little button down...??

I use those replacement silicone ones Dazza67 pointed you to, they're grrrreat!!

[Discobaker]

Ok, just had a closer look, the button to lock is still inside there, button to unlock isn't!!! Bugger.. Must have fallen out when I removed the tape.

[biggin]

You will need to go through the EKA code procedure each time you lock then unlock the truck.:(

[Discobaker]

You will need to go through the EKA code procedure each time you lock then unlock the truck.:(

Forgive my ignorance, EKA code procedure? WTF?

[biggin]

Have a read through this.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/64870-how-find-out-eka-code-98-99-d1-2.html

[Discobaker]

Have a read through this.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/64870-how-find-out-eka-code-98-99-d1-2.html

Yup, just had a read of that one, thanks biggin, gonna have to find a new fob, and quick.
Cheers matey

[Dazza67]

Just a weird one, Hmmm have you thought about taking the power off the alarm horn???

Would this work as a temp fix till you get the fob/buttons

Dazza

[biggin]

Just a weird one, Hmmm have you thought about taking the power off the alarm horn???

Would this work as a temp fix till you get the fob/buttons

Dazza

I'm pretty sure this would not disable the immobiliser but it must be worth a try.:)

[bsperka]

I've been looking at the new empty fob cases on the UK ebay site. 18.50 Uk pounds (inc freight). About $AU26 . Has anyone tried these replacements? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-75-LAND-ROVER-DISCOVERY-2-BUTTON-KEY-FOB-CASE-/300505865687?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item45f78b9dd7

[Discobaker]

I'll have a crack at that in the morning, for the moment it's unlocked with my second car parked behind it in the driveway.
Cheers guys, much appreciated

[Discobaker]

My LR Mech wants $375 for a genuine key programed to my truck. Is there anyone on this forum that has a replacement key for a disco 2? It's only gonna be $65 to re program it. Big difference!!!
Cheers guys

[Andrew D]

I've been looking at the new empty fob cases on the UK ebay site. 18.50 Uk pounds (inc freight). About $AU26 . Has anyone tried these replacements? ROVER 75 / LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 2 BUTTON KEY FOB CASE on eBay (end time 16-Jan-11 00:15:59 GMT) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-75-LAND-ROVER-DISCOVERY-2-BUTTON-KEY-FOB-CASE-/300505865687?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item45f78b9dd7)

These don't work for the D2. The blade is different. I have also looked at these.


My LR Mech wants $375 for a genuine key programed to my truck. Is there anyone on this forum that has a replacement key for a disco 2? It's only gonna be $65 to re program it. Big difference!!!
Cheers guys

Buy a key from either the USA or UK. Range from $85 - $145 dollars. Then have it programmed ($60).

I bought a key from Britcar-UK. ($135).

Regards
Andrew

P.S. I went to a locksmith the other day and they can tell you what frequency your key is (some have frequency readers. The one I went to did). If you don't already know it's either 315 or 433 Mhz

[Discobaker]

Cheers Andrew

[Sully]

What year is your car again mate?

That will determine which part number you need to order.

I've got some info lying around about which key suits certain models.

[AussieAub]

Apologies if this is a little off topic from the OP, but can a "dead" key be reprogrammed?
I had two working fobs, but then my alarm started playing silly buggers one day on a carpark and kind of dis-associated itself from the car! Tried new battery and still nothing.
Luckily my spare was working and I wasn't too far from home! :cool:
The original one has never worked since.

Can the units like Nanocom be used with the V8 to re-programme existing keys?
(not that I've got a Nanocom of course! :()

Cheers,

[PaulieJ]

Hi Disco Baker,

If the part number you need is CWE 100700KIT I have one here that was incorrect for my car, it was sent over from the UK but was the wrong frequency, I havent got around to sending it back for a refund yet... I ended just buying one from Bruce Davis Performance cause I was in a too.

[Lyonbyrd]

anyone know if those little metal tabs holding the rubber nibs on the key circuits can be bought??

[Discobaker]

G'day Sully, thought you'd fallen off lol :) it's a 2000 disco 2 V8 ES.
Not sure what the part number is but I've now become a guinea pig for Discospares.com. They're gonna send me down a key free of charge, 15mhz matches with my truck but says it's not compatible so gonna see my mech & see if he can tune it in:)
As far as I'm aware the little silver blocks with the black button underneath the rubber cover cant be bought but Disco Spares has plenty of second hand keys to reclaim one :)
1800 337 379
Cheers guys

[zzsteve]

Can the units like Nanocom be used with the V8 to re-programme existing keys?
(not that I've got a Nanocom of course! :()

Cheers,
Yes, as long as the key fob still works and has the unique 6 digit code sticker on the PCB.
If the key was once programmed into the BCU then I don't think it would have become "unprogrammed" unless deliberately erased from the vehicle.
Cheers,
Steve

[AussieAub]

Thanks Steve.
Yes, it was programmed to the car. I used the key to drive to the shops. Parked the car, locked it up, came back to the car, pressed the button, and nothing! Light on fob shows when I press the button.
Opened the door with key and the alarm went off, and couldn't start the car. Shut the door, and locked it with the key, and the alarm stopped.
Thought it might be the battery in the fob, so back to the shops and bought and inserted new battery. Still the same.

Got wifey to bring the spare fob from home, and that one worked fine. Got home, re-tried the "broken" fob, and the same thing happened again.

Its as though the fob has become "un-programmed" from the car somehow while I was shopping!!

Cheers,

[winaje]

Does your key look something like this, but with both buttons missing?:
My key minus one button (http://gallery.me.com/winaje#100139/Key&bgcolor=black)
If so, use a pen tip to press the black rubber button in the middle of the holes.

[AussieAub]

Does your key look something like this, but with both buttons missing?:
My key minus one button (http://gallery.me.com/winaje#100139/Key&bgcolor=black)
If so, use a pen tip to press the black rubber button in the middle of the holes.

Thats exactly what the silicon repair kit is for.
Its a fantastic fix. Have used on mine.
Land Rover Remote Key Fob Discovery 2 Button Repair Pad (eBay item 200563413426 end time 08-Feb-11 17:09:05 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Remote-Key-Fob-Discovery-2-Button-Repair-Pad-/200563413426?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eb282d1b2)

[Sully]

G'day Sully, thought you'd fallen off lol :) it's a 2000 disco 2 V8 ES.
Not sure what the part number is but I've now become a guinea pig for Discospares.com. They're gonna send me down a key free of charge, 15mhz matches with my truck but says it's not compatible so gonna see my mech & see if he can tune it in:)
As far as I'm aware the little silver blocks with the black button underneath the rubber cover cant be bought but Disco Spares has plenty of second hand keys to reclaim one :)
1800 337 379
Cheers guys

No mate, haven't fallen off the radar. Just been on holidays and the car is still at Range-Rov getting reapired.

OK, here's what I've found regarding the FOB. It will help you and your supplier sort it out.

Take a look at your chassis number, if you have an "XA" in the middle of it then you will have a 315mhz frequency.
If it's "YA" then you'll be in 433mhz.

Here's all of the part numbers for the FOBS:

CWE100680KIT - 433.92Mhz (NRML or LHD, Europe)
CWE100720KIT - 315Mhz (LHD-KOR, RHD-J)
CWE100700KIT - 315Mhz (AUS)
CWE100690KIT - 433.92Mhz (LHD, Europe)
CWE100710KIT - 315Mhz (LHD-RI)
CEW100710KIT - 315Mhz (LHD-CDN/MEX/USA)

If your chassis number is XA, then you'll be looking at CWW100700KIT, if it's YA, then you'll be looking at CWE100680KIT.

[Lyonbyrd]

As far as I'm aware the little silver blocks with the black button underneath the rubber cover cant be bought but Disco Spares has plenty of second hand keys to reclaim one :)
1800 337 379
Cheers guys

For this tiny piece of metal I would need to buy a Japanese key from these guys for $75.. that is folly. Surely other keys/electronic stores have the same part?:eek:

[Sully]

Just as a side note, I have a receipt within my service records for a replacement key, along with the part number.
I can let you know what that part number is (which will only matter if you've got an "XA" chassis number).

Only problem is that all the books are in the car, which is at the mechanic at the moment. I'm hoping it will be back within the next week and can let you know then.

[Discobaker]

For this tiny piece of metal I would need to buy a Japanese key from these guys for $75.. that is folly. Surely other keys/electronic stores have the same part?:eek:

Not faulty, they've just come from wrecks, $75 is better than. The $375 I was quoted for a new key. I'll keep you posted as to whether the key they send down is able to be re programed to suit.

[Discobaker]

Cheers Sully, good to hear you're still vertical & ur ride is being fixed:)
Unfortunately the letters in my vin number are YA, fingers crossed

[Sully]

Cheers Sully, good to hear you're still vertical & ur ride is being fixed:)
Unfortunately the letters in my vin number are YA, fingers crossed

Certainly vertical mate... Yep, bit of a relief that the dealer has accepted the repairs and that it's being done at a Landy specialist.

Righto, if your VIN is YA then you'll be looking at CWE100680KIT. This is the 433mhz part number.... BUT... There have been some instances in which CWE100690KIT has been used too.

It's all confusing stuff.

[Discobaker]

Certainly vertical mate... Yep, bit of a relief that the dealer has accepted the repairs and that it's being done at a Landy specialist.

Righto, if your VIN is YA then you'll be looking at CWE100680KIT. This is the 433mhz part number.... BUT... There have been some instances in which CWE100690KIT has been used too.

It's all confusing stuff.

Certainly is matey but I'll have a crack & see what happens.
Cheers bud

[zzsteve]

Thanks Steve.
Yes, it was programmed to the car. I used the key to drive to the shops. Parked the car, locked it up, came back to the car, pressed the button, and nothing! Light on fob shows when I press the button.
Opened the door with key and the alarm went off, and couldn't start the car. Shut the door, and locked it with the key, and the alarm stopped.

Its as though the fob has become "un-programmed" from the car somehow while I was shopping!!

Cheers,

Out of interest, which exact shops did you visit? There are stories of Amcal chemists and maybe Dick Smith stores using the same 433 MHz frequency for security or some other wireless applications. I had the same problem when another 433 MHz source was present. Had to crt/alt/del the vehicle to restore the key fob. I think the rolling code gets too far out of sync due to the extra "bits" of data from the additional source.
Just a thought...
Steve

[AussieAub]

Out of interest, which exact shops did you visit? There are stories of Amcal chemists and maybe Dick Smith stores using the same 433 MHz frequency for security or some other wireless applications. I had the same problem when another 433 MHz source was present. Had to crt/alt/del the vehicle to restore the key fob. I think the rolling code gets too far out of sync due to the extra "bits" of data from the additional source.
Just a thought...
Steve

Hi Steve.
It was parked directly outside a branch of the Salvos. Wanneroo, northern burbs (Perth) to be precise.

Had to crt/alt/del the vehicle to restore the key fob
???.....any more info mate?

Cheers,

[Sully]

???.....any more info mate?


The Ctrl/Alt/Del method is used to help clear fault codes, so it may help with your problem. Unless there's a problem with your FOB.
I've only ever heard of it being used to clear the abs lights when they pop up unexpectedly.

Process is as follows:

With the key in the ignition and front door closed, open drivers door and then pull key out of ignition and wait around ten seconds. Now put key back in the ignition, close the door and restart the car.

That's it!

I guess all there is to do now is to try that key out.

[zzsteve]

My version (from somewhere deep in an aulro forum):

close door, start engine, stop engine, key out, wait 1 minute, open door, key in, close door, restart
Seemed to work for me.

Can we ever find an authoritative source on this one?

Cheers,

Steve

[AussieAub]

Thanks Sully and zzsteve.

Can we ever find an authoritative source on this one?
I'll defo give these a try when/if I get the Disco back.
Will let you know which one works.....then we'll know for sure! ;)

Cheers fellas,

[Discobaker]

All sorted, the fob I was sent didn't respond when my LR guy tried tuning it in so off I went to an electronics guru mate & for the price of a few snot blocks ( made by me :)) I'm on my way again. All he did was remove the little silver block with the switch on it from the new fob & replaced on the original one :).
Now I don't need to worry about anyone stealing my offsider when I run into the shops for bread & milk lol :)http://184.72.239.143/mu/31c66366-8f7e-adfa.jpg

[Sully]

Hahaha! Nice work mate!

I still need to get a key sorted for mine. I had one delivered in around November last year, but I've not had a chance to find out if it works. I have my doubts as the internals of the new FOB look different to the existing one.

Cool dog. I wish mine was as relaxed as that in the car. Mine tends to get a little car sick.

[clubagreenie]

Is there a method of externally or internally telling if a key fob is 315 or 433? I received 3 with my D2, 2 were defiantly the originals and there was a 3rd that was purchased off ebay as a spare by the last owner. Do the no's inside the fob's relate to anything? The two that are for the car are sequential and dated the same, the other is different.

Also if replacing battery in remote there's nothing to worry about in terms of reprogramming is there?

[Andrew D]

Is there a method of externally or internally telling if a key fob is 315 or 433? I received 3 with my D2, 2 were defiantly the originals and there was a 3rd that was purchased off ebay as a spare by the last owner. Do the no's inside the fob's relate to anything? The two that are for the car are sequential and dated the same, the other is different.

Also if replacing battery in remote there's nothing to worry about in terms of reprogramming is there?

A decent locksmith should have a frequency indicator. (it's about the size of a pocket calculator but twice as thick). All they do is press both bottons, one on the key and one on the indicator and it displays the frequency. (If you live in Brisbane the guys at Millennium Locksmith Wolloongabba has one).

The numbers don't mean squat. (I previously thought the same)

Replacing the battery also does squat. Gez we'd be shagged if we needed to program it everytime. It's amazing LR didn't try this....:D

Regards
Andrew

[clubagreenie]

It's amazing LR didn't try this....:D

Regards
Andrew


Exactly why I asked

Thanks, time to hit the locksmiths

[biggin]

When I bought my D2 I had only one key, so had another cut for a spare (no fob) at a proper locksmith.
Not only did he have the correct key pattern in stock (hardware shops, bunnings etc. did not), but the asking price was less than half that quoted by others, at around five bucks.
At least with a plain key cut, you can use the EKA code process to fall back on, if anything happens to the FOB.
In short - I too am looking for a new FOB:D.

[Discobaker]

When I bought my D2 I had only one key, so had another cut for a spare (no FOB) at a proper locksmith.
Not only did he have the correct key pattern in stock (hardware shops, bunnings etc. did not), but the asking price was less than half that quoted by others, at around five bucks.
At least with a plain key cut, you can use the EKA code process to fall back on, if anything happens to the FOB.
In short - I too am looking for a new FOB:D.

Discoveryspares.com have plenty he said, just none to suit mine, maybe will suit yours?
Give em a call

[Discobaker]

Hahaha! Nice work mate!

I still need to get a key sorted for mine. I had one delivered in around November last year, but I've not had a chance to find out if it works. I have my doubts as the internals of the new FOB look different to the existing one.

Cool dog. I wish mine was as relaxed as that in the car. Mine tends to get a little car sick.

She's pretty good, just wants to be everywhere I go. 10 minutes of the head out the window thing then she passes out pretty much :)