OK it's Time to Upgrade

[Redback]

The time has come to upgrade to a D3, SO, here are some questions:D

Q1) Are there any issues with the manual gearbox, I have seen a few manuals for sale with low Ks and this will be our prefered option..

Q2) Are 17in rims easy to come by.

Q3) As we do alot of offroad driving, is under body protection a must, I have heard the muffler and transfer case is known to be damaged easily AND should we consider the extened height devices (ie) LLAMS.

Q4) Will it tow a 1.5 tonne camper trailer comfortably.

The fun begins:D

Baz.

[gghaggis]

Q1: Not really, but the auto is a seriously nice box - nothing like the disadvantages of the older autos. If you're offroading, it's close to perfect.

Q2: There are quite a few 17" options - LR, BMW, Dynamic, BBS

Q3: Air suspension compressor - protect that first. Then radiator/intercooler, then transmission. Haven't heard of much muffler damage?

Q4: Easily ..........

:BigThumb:

Cheers,

Gordon

[discowhite]

Q1: Not really, but the auto is a seriously nice box - nothing like the disadvantages of the older autos. If you're offroading, it's close to perfect.

Q2: There are quite a few 17" options - LR, BMW, Dynamic, BBS

Q3: Air suspension compressor - protect that first. Then radiator/intercooler, then transmission. Haven't heard of much muffler damage?

Q4: Easily ..........

:BigThumb:

Cheers,

Gordon

you will never convince baz that the auto is good for towing;):p

cheers phil

[WhiteD3]

Q3) As we do alot of offroad driving, is under body protection a must, I have heard the muffler and transfer case is known to be damaged easily AND should we consider the extened height devices (ie) LLAMS.

Easily? Sorry Baz but that's rubbish (no offence). My D3 has too many dings underneath it to count! In 4 years I've never had an issue caused in this manner.

Lost mud flaps, a door sill cover, ground away the thermal plate between the exhaust and the spare, but that's all.

[Ean Austral]

Mate I haven,t done anymore than about 160ks of dirt in our D3, but this is what I have found.

I swore I would never buy an Auto..got a d3 with 6sp auto, towed our camper trailer 4000kms so far, would take alot of convincing to buy a manual again.

My D2 struggled to pull our camper safely above 90ks/hr unless you were happy to drive with the trailer doing 10km every 100 further than the car is swayed that much.
The d3 pulls it like its hardly there and rock steady at 110ks.
Have towed the camper from Adelaide to Melb along the coast back via the A1 highway and now upto Alice springs and Ave 10.4 ltr/100ks, best I got from the D2 with the same trailer 12.6lts/100. and the D3 at a faster speed.

The biggie tho is you can drive 900ks in a day and not feel as tho you have had to wrestle the car the whole way..

Of course everyone is different and if the D3 is as good off road as on then I will be real impressed, and if it can match my D2 then even better.

Ours is a 08 TDV6 and after 8 yrs of the D2 its a BIG change in the right direction..

My 2c worth..for the very short time i;ve had it

Cheers Ean

[chuck]

Baz

The D3 is fantastic.
Upgraded from a well sorted D2 18months ago & got the last of the
TDV6 SE D3's with ediff.
Just come back from Port McDonnell - 5 1/2 hours drive to destination & then out in the car again exploring.

Great on highway at 110kmh and then fantastic in the dunes for 5 hours & 50 km at 10kmh.

I have a soft spot for the D2's and still get to drive one occasionally as my son has a D2a.

OEM 17's can be expensive & difficult to get - I ended getting two sets from Ebay UK at a reasonable price (kept 6 & some one on here needed 2).

The 17's are worth sourcing though as I have found 17" MTZ's to be as good on road as 18" oems although a little noisier.

Also picked up 5 brand new dynamic steel 17's for $220.00 for my trailer.

The 6 speed auto is great however you need to play with it in manual mode off road to get the best out of the car. I have found the car operates far better off road in manual mode.

Hope this helps

Regards

Chuck

[BigJon]

You mention 6 speed manual and air suspension. You won't find them on the same car in Australia.

[irondoc]

Not sure if that is tru BigJon - i think you used to be able to order both S and SE with a manual and could also get air suspension added on the S.

Can't confirm this, but pretty sure that is what i was told when i was browsing the dealers.

Might not be many around though.

cheers
lucas

[WhiteD3]

I thought that air suspension came with TR, and that TR meant the auto. I'm sure the manual S only came in the TDV6 with coils.

[Narangga]

You mention 6 speed manual and air suspension. You won't find them on the same car in Australia.


I thought that air suspension came with TR, and that TR meant the auto. I'm sure the manual S only came in the TDV6 with coils.

At least one of the SE manual transmission vehicles currently advertised on carsales states air bag suspension in the vehicle description.

[BigJon]

As far as I was aware you could only spec an "S" with a manual gearbox and addition of TR and air suspension meant auto only. I have only ever seen / driven one manual D3 and it had coils.

Maybe some slipped through the net, I know you could definitely get manual and TR overseas.

[Scouse]

At least one of the SE manual transmission vehicles currently advertised on carsales states air bag suspension in the vehicle description.The one for $29000?
Unless the manual has been retrofitted, it's an error in the listing as that car left the factory with an auto according to LR.

[Graeme]

My D4 is the 1st auto I've owned although I've had auto company vehicles. I often use the D4 in manual mode to bump up a gear or 2 but obvously not often enough as sometimes I forget to upshift after a slow corner. However I wouldn't swap the 6-speeder auto for a manual gbox and clutch. In time I will implement an up-shift button (at least) to avoid going into sport mode and let the auto do the rest. A down-shift button might be good when about to enter a slow roundabout.

[Redback]

you will never convince baz that the auto is good for towing;):p

cheers phil

:p:p

[101RRS]

I often use the D4 in manual mode to bump up a gear or 2 but obvously not often enough as sometimes I forget to upshift after a slow corner.

Noting that when in Command Shift the gearbox overrides you if the box does not like what you are doing.

Garry

[Graeme]

Noting that when in Command Shift the gearbox overrides you if the box does not like what you are doing.

Garry
Only at the extremes and I like that anyway. However mine in auto mode will pull down to just above 1000 rpm on light throttle, except for 3rd gear which slips the torque converter unless almost stopped where it drops to 2nd.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I would think Baz,, rather than worry about the auto(walk towards the light Baz---:p),,
worry about scoring the E diff---;)

[Redback]

I would think Baz,, rather than worry about the auto(walk towards the light Baz---:p),,
worry about scoring the E diff---;)

The manual we looked at had the E-diff, not sure it had air suspension though.

Baz

[gghaggis]

you can't get the rear eDiff without the Terrain Response, which in turn needs air .....

Cheers,

Gordon

[Redback]

you can't get the rear eDiff without the Terrain Response, which in turn needs air .....

Cheers,

Gordon

Thanks, here's the add for the manual D3

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8376104&__Qpb=true&keywords=&Cr=0&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965541% 204294954915%201622&silo=1011&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=2&__sid=12D7EFA53138 (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8376104&__Qpb=true&keywords=&Cr=0&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7C1%7C%7CpCar_PriceSort_D ecimal%7C1%7C%7CpCar_Make_String%7C0%7C%7CpCar_Mod el_String%7C0&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965541% 204294954915%201622&silo=1011&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=2&__sid=12D7EFA53138)

[Bundalene]

Baz....

You know you want it:D

Phil has a D4... and LOVES it:D

Go get one!!!........ and bring it round here and we'll have a beer and a look-see at your new Landy.

....Just don't pop the bonnet as soon as you get here ....like some we know:angel:

Erich


PS. How was your Xmas break??

[Pedro_The_Swift]

The manual we looked at had the E-diff, not sure it had air suspension though.

Baz


you can't get the rear eDiff without the Terrain Response, which in turn needs air .....

Cheers,

Gordon


see how its all falling nicely into place,,:cool::cool:

[powella]

Interesting spec....

Manual
E-Diff
Terrain Response
Air Suspension.

AP

[discowhite]

i wouldnt be limiting your search for a D3 with an ediff baz, for what you want it for, touring, i reckon that 99% of the time you wont use it. unless you want to got to the watagans:twisted: ide be using the money to buy a front bar and winch.
after driving my D4 around my mates farm in the wet, and knowing where i drove the locked 90 in the dry all i can say is WOW, the D4 did it way easier in the wet on road tyres than the 90 did it in the dry with muds and a detroit.

cheers phil

[Graeme]

Well, there's a clutch pedal and air suspension knobs & switches.

[Narangga]

The one for $29000?
Unless the manual has been retrofitted, it's an error in the listing as that car left the factory with an auto according to LR.

Musta been - it ain't there now.

[WhiteD3]

The interior pics show the TR knob and air suspension lever and what looks like a manual stick. Weird. But it does say it was a special order.....

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8376104&__Qpb=true&keywords=&Cr=0&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7C1%7C%7CpCar_PriceSort_D ecimal%7C1%7C%7CpCar_Make_String%7C0%7C%7CpCar_Mod el_String%7C0&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965541% 204294954915%201622&silo=1011&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=2&__sid=12D7EFA53138


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[sniegy]

Hi Guys,
Redback Happy hunting :p
The vehicle on carsales, its spec is true & correct. It is a manual & it does have TR & eDiff. Was a client who ordered a vehicle specifically as is & at the time LR were very helpful & placed the vehicle on order, I dont think there are many in the country with the same spec if any!
Vehicle has full service history from memory with us & looked after well from what i can remember.
Cheers

[Scouse]

Well, there's a clutch pedal and air suspension knobs & switches.


Musta been - it ain't there now.


The interior pics show the TR knob and air suspension lever and what looks like a manual stick. Weird. But it does say it was a special order.....

2005 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 3 SE Private Cars For Sale in VIC - carsales.com.au (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8376104&__Qpb=true&keywords=&Cr=0&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7C1%7C%7CpCar_PriceSort_D ecimal%7C1%7C%7CpCar_Make_String%7C0%7C%7CpCar_Mod el_String%7C0&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965541% 204294954915%201622&silo=1011&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=2&__sid=12D7EFA53138)


The one above is not the one I saw on Carsales this morning. I just had a look again & the $29000 D3 that was listed as a manual is no longer advertised. That was the first one I came across & the only one I checked on LRs system.

[Geedublya]

The interior pics show the TR knob and air suspension lever and what looks like a manual stick. Weird. But it does say it was a special order.....

2005 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 3 SE Private Cars For Sale in VIC - carsales.com.au (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8376104&__Qpb=true&keywords=&Cr=0&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7C1%7C%7CpCar_PriceSort_D ecimal%7C1%7C%7CpCar_Make_String%7C0%7C%7CpCar_Mod el_String%7C0&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965541% 204294954915%201622&silo=1011&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=2&__sid=12D7EFA53138)


http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5729/clipboard01rk.jpg
Pity it's such a dark colour.

[Tombie]

Perhaps Baz is planning to buy a dark one and paint a red stripe across its roof :wasntme:

[geckos]

Anyone know where a TDV6 engine and manual gearbox is hiding?
Geck

[Redback]

Baz....

You know you want it:D

Phil has a D4... and LOVES it:D

Go get one!!!........ and bring it round here and we'll have a beer and a look-see at your new Landy.

....Just don't pop the bonnet as soon as you get here ....like some we know:angel:

Erich




PS. How was your Xmas break??

I'd loved to mate, but we don't know people in high places;)

Break was brilliant, great camp spots, no crowds, all on either a river or creek, great company at some of the camps, we had a very relaxing time.

I'll come over soon for a beer.

Baz.

[powella]

Buy a 2nd one in the right colour, and do a body swap..... :eek:


It's been done before..... :D

Cheers,
AP