View Full Version : hard range 322....
andrew e
15th January 2011, 08:32 AM
Finally i have found a 322 in my price range...... (dont ask $$ but its what a dealer offered the owner as a trade-in). I'm picking up on monday. It is a 1 owner 04 td6 HSE with 290XXX kms and a problem with the engine - the dealer has suspeced the turbo as the pump is brand new.
It has not been taken apart for diagnosis, but it still has oil and water (seperately) so i am not convinced the engine bottom end is damaged...yet.
Its silver with a factory bar and I am looking at spending about 5k on repairs and accessories.
Likely to get list
Chip (looking abroard at the uk ones)
intercooler
3" custom exhaust
custom 17" wheels with 265/70/17 BFG KM2 (about 31" diameter) mabe larger if i can fit them.
reverse camera
rear dvd (wife says so)
faultmate msv2 extreme
air suspension emergency bypass
breathers
dual batterys
bash plates.
Dream list, which will happen in time.....
custom turbo
Barwork (front/rear/sliders)
Snorkel
extra fuel tank
rear wheel carrier
arnott airbags
2 inch air suspension lift.
I will be taking lots of pics when it arrives and post a bit of a writeup working out whats wrong.
Andy
PAT303
15th January 2011, 09:02 PM
What's the engine doing?,whats it's problem?. Pat
andrew e
16th January 2011, 09:06 AM
It has trouble starting (aerostart or a petrol soaked rag gets it going) then running really rough, before it stalls.
The dealer first said fuel pump, so that was changed (the one in the rear floor), but now he says it could be the turbo. (this is a well known land rover dealer on king georges rd sydney, and it beats me why they cant properly diagnose a problem with a 7 yo rangie). The owner then said what will it cost for a completle new engine, which he was quoted 18K fitted. :mad:
The really sad thing is that the owner (who does alot of remote traveling) says he will never get another LR/RR. He says it was a briliant comfortable car, seriously let down by overcharging dealers who dont know what they are doing. I think he said somthing about a new landcruiser...
Also found out it had a new gearbox 12 months ago, so i dont have to worry about that not being serviced for 250,000kms.
On another note, this is a 1 owner car, so what extras that the car was new should it come with that may not be there? Do they have a sunroof emergency key like the p38a? He is finding the cargo blind somewhere.
How many normal keys??
Andy
PAT303
16th January 2011, 12:12 PM
He should send a complaint to LR Oz and LR UK.The turbo has nothing to do with it,sounds like no fuel pressure or no air,did it blow black smoke or white smoke when it started?.At 290K it could be as easy as a blown or delaminated turbo hose or blockage in the fuel line,again as easy as a filter.The L322 has an allen key for the sunroof,it's with the wheel lock nut socket. Pat
PaulP38a
18th January 2011, 12:00 AM
Andy - if you're not going to send pics to your business partner, you could at least post some pics to the forum... ;)
I want to see if you've put a big HARDRANGE.COM sticker along each side like you did to my P38 :o
If you can steal Erich away from his Puma project for a couple of hours, I'm sure you blokes will figure it out. Let me know what multi-vehicle L322 modules you want activated for your FaultMate and I shall "make it so", or do you just want all of them for a single L322?
Damn shame the PO is now being scared of LR/RR's, but IDGAF customer service attitude will do that.
Cheers
Paul.
andrew e
18th January 2011, 11:02 PM
Ok paul mate, here it is.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=32533&stc=1&d=1295355013
I Started looking closely at it for about half an hour today, wow what a well thought out car. The ECUs under the bonnet are in a sealed box, the air filter is massive, the oil filter is easy to access, as is the drain. The pollen filter can be changes by only undoing a few clips by hand. Heaps of room under the bonnet (more than my 1986 county!) Cool hidden compartments in the rear too.
I hate that bullbar, so does SWMBO. pity the bumper has holes underneath. I will most likely remove it and repair the holes
I found some hidden extras aswell. 2 sealed auxillary batterys hidden in the rear drivers 1/4 aswell as a redarc controller. Looks like a simple install, but dificult to get in and out.
I will do a post on rr.net about the engine problem, but i think it may just be a case of dirty fuel.
Andy
PaulP38a
18th January 2011, 11:09 PM
very pretty... for now ;)
I like that bar, think it breaks up the lines at the front.
... and not a HTFU or "Harden Up" sticker in sight!
BTW: the new leather driver's seat skin arrived today for my black Rangie. I'll need to come for a drive up there again soon when you will be about.
Cheers
Paul.
andrew e
18th January 2011, 11:48 PM
will put a sticker on it soon, but i should wash it first. i only had a quick squiz at it today.
I think i'll start up a thread in members rides to document the modifications, and keep this thread for repairs....
The repairs list that needs doing so far is......
engine repairs and full service
radio screen - not sat nav :( I thought only p38s did that.....
bumper scuffs
new front fog light.
new front pas blinker
drivers seat side trim cracked
bullbar removal
deivers seat base is starting to lose its shape on the edge (leather still good though)
cd cartridge jammed.
Andy
PaulP38a
18th January 2011, 11:56 PM
I reckon it would still be a pretty good buy at $30k for a 6yo Rangie, even with those km's and some issue in the engine. If it is just fuel (filter, clogged injectors, whatever...) you and Erich will get it sorted soon enough.
Now, if only I could get my better half to trade in her Freelander for a L322 or RRS...
Cheers, Paul.
andrew e
11th February 2011, 07:13 AM
IT RUNS...
after changing the fuel fillter, and crank case filter (in the top of the rocker cover) It still wouldnt start, so i stripped the inlet manifold off and had a looksee. I sort-of understand how it works, now. I re-assembled it and tried cranking with atomised wd40 sprayed into the inlet manifold (before i was spraying into the MAF), which still didnt work. Tried again with a petrol rag, and it fired and started. It ran rough, blew some white smoke, then settled down. I let it get warm to bleed all the air out of the system and it starts and idles well.
It doesnt idle as smooth as it should though, and i think it may still have a dickey injector or 2. I unplugged 1 at a time (if you unplug 2 the computer goes into fault) and there was hardly anything noticable when you unplugged #1 or #5. I will be doing more checks today aswell as swapping the injectors around.
Andy
jx2mad
11th February 2011, 07:51 AM
Hi Andrew. Where are those extra batteries located? I have just bought a L322 TD6 and I cannot find a place for my second battery. Jim
spudboy
11th February 2011, 09:18 AM
Sounds like you might have got a bargain there!
They are a fab piece of kit.
Cheers
David
andrew e
11th February 2011, 07:10 PM
Hi Andrew. Where are those extra batteries located? I have just bought a L322 TD6 and I cannot find a place for my second battery. Jim
They are in the rear drivers 1/4 below the floor. Origionally there is a plastic tub there, but this has been removed/cut. The cables run upwards to the 12v supply above. once the top carpet cover is back on, you cannot even tell its there. It has a redarc controller. There are 2 sealed gell batteries under there with the power running constantly to the 12v outlet in the rear loadspace.
I will post up pics soon.
Andy
Laurie
13th February 2011, 10:53 AM
Andrew
I would try and run a high dosage of injector cleaner through your system, BEFORE you pull other things apart. I have found that quality and blend of diesel varies considerably even here in Canberra. I always run my Td5 with additive after falling foul with fuel filter problems in my Tdi. The safest spots for diesel are the truck pumps with their high usage rates; algae etc is less likely to be a problem. The screen / mesh filter around the tank fuel pump is very fine. dirty fuel can block this and cause poor performance. In the Td5 overheating that has caused some engines to stop working all-together, sometimes hitting the tank frees the pump, BUT not always.
The Toyota injector cleaner is very good !!!
At present I use the PM Lubricants additive unless I fillup with Caltex Vortex Diesel which is very good!! and usally only 2c a litre dearer, cheaper than additive.
Laurie
harlie
14th February 2011, 08:09 AM
They are in the rear drivers 1/4 below the floor. Origionally there is a plastic tub there, but this has been removed/cut. The cables run upwards to the 12v supply above. once the top carpet cover is back on, you cannot even tell its there. It has a redarc controller. There are 2 sealed gell batteries under there with the power running constantly to the 12v outlet in the rear loadspace.
I will post up pics soon.
Andy
Hi Andrew.
Is the Redarc actually drawing power from the rear fuse box? I was told that there's not enough voltage there to do that, which personally didn't make sense to me given the feed size.
Would be interested in your opinion of how the installation is going, in terms of charging ability – sure makes it easy if it can be powered from the rear...
jx2mad
14th February 2011, 11:09 AM
I have found the spot in the rear of my 322 and it is large enough to fit my deep cycle battery. My local auto electrician says that under no circumstances should the power feed to the rear be used to charge battery even though it is fused at 50 amps because this will upset computer. Has anyone run a dedicated charge cable to rear of these vehicles and if so how did you run the cable? Jim
tebone
14th February 2011, 11:43 AM
Hi Jx2mad,
I have a 6mm cable that comes from just under the 50amp fuses which is located with the 8mm (+)cable on the screw which travels to my anderson plug. I have had no trouble with this when it is charging my battery and running the fridge inside my van. Currently I will be installing another wire from this area to goe to a voltage relay and then to another battery in the back of my wagon to run my fridge/freezer.
Regards Paul
Remy
19th February 2011, 07:59 PM
Huh where did you get these from?
BTW: the new leather driver's seat skin arrived today for my black Rangie.
Cheers
Paul.
PaulP38a
19th February 2011, 10:25 PM
Huh where did you get these from?
Lucky find on eBay. Shame they didn't have a base as well.
andrew e
3rd July 2011, 08:41 PM
Long overdue update, now that i have sold my p38:):(:):(.
I removed the covers on the fueltank and cleaned it out (highly reccomended job to everyone with a l322, as it isnt hard). There was alot of sludge and water in there. I then flushed through fresh fuel and new filters again.... still not 100%.
I then removed the injectors to get tested at my local bosch agent ($75 each:() but luckily they pulled one apart first....... and found it full of mud.
So..... i was up for 6 new or reco injectors. LR want 1200 each, and the cheapest i could find in uk was 1800 pounds for 6.
I was in no hurry,so i sent them to the uk to get reconditioned (510 pounds), as the only thing they dont replace when reconditioning is the outer case.
When they returned i threw them back in........ and it wouldnt start. It turned out to be #4 injector jammed open :mad:. I sent an email to the uk injector bloke, and he said he is sending me another asap.....which has since been lost in the post.:mad::mad::mad: Sent another email, and ANOTHER has been shipped....... i hope.
The MID pixel display.
I had an landrover electronics expert replace the ribbon with a new bmw one, but it didnt help. So i sent it to the uk aswell to a place called bmw pixel fix, and for just over $200, it works perfectly now with warranty.
I removed the ugly bullbar, and got another bumper bar with no holes for free (the right colour too:)). I replaced the standard headlights with vouge xenons, only because i had them there.
Now that i am filling up with p38 coin, here is my shopping list.
200 Landcruiser BFG Km2 Muddies X 5 on Black Rims (eBay item 180690516317 end time 13-Jul-11 13:58:54 AEST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180690516317&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
LANDROVER DISCOVERY SERIES 3 BULLBAR (SECONDS) | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LANDROVER-DISCOVERY-SERIES-3-BULLBAR-SECONDS-/260810123285?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cb97ea815)
(if anyone else bids me up on these things i'll charge you double on your next HRA purchace ;)).
graph range rover 6 (http://www.jeremyjfearn.co.uk/graphrr6.htm)
http://assets.config.landrover.com/v2w4t/lr/au/l322/accoly_au_l322_lr006848.jpg
OR
http://assets.config.landrover.com/v2w4t/lr/au/l322/accoly_au_l322_cab500070pma.jpg
and a few more things....
Andy
Remy
3rd July 2011, 09:02 PM
Nice - need a l322 to bid against you:(
Gonna be a good looking and capable l322 with those tyres
RangieBit
3rd July 2011, 09:49 PM
You bastard Andrew,
and I mean that in the nicest possible way :p.
I'll cancel my bid engine for the bullbar but only if you'll promise me that you'll do me a good deal on modifying and mounting the next one that comes up on eBay. They don't come up often!
Should look a very nice piece of work when it's done.
Glad you're starting to see some progress with the engine woes. I found it rather weird that the L322 has two fuel pumps. A mate of mine got caught out by the inept dealer thing when they replaced the lift pump when it was the high pressure pump outside the tank that was the problem. They didn't even know it was there :eek:. He had his friendly neighbourhood mechanic point that out and replace it for him.
Look forward to further progress updates on the HR L322.
Cheers,
Iain
harlie
4th July 2011, 07:38 AM
graph range rover 6 (http://www.jeremyjfearn.co.uk/graphrr6.htm)
187kw & 570nm - :D
do you know if they will supply a kit? Their site says "fitted in workshop"
33chinacars
4th July 2011, 07:34 PM
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the engine upgade you are looking at is no longer available. Its from Jeremy Fearn in the UK. Was going to get mine done the same. It came with a remapped ECU & a piggy back intercooler. Removed from market as the auto couldn't handle the power.
His normal ECU remap will give you 160 kw [215 hp] & 488 Nm [360 lb/ft]. you can send him your ECU remap & return. Have a number of e-mails from him about this.
Didn't know 17" rims would fit on an L322
Good to Know about injectors & tank Thanks Andrew
ONLY 3 more SLEEPS till I pick my TD6 up.
CAN'T WAIT
Was a problem with the instrument cluster. Dealer fitted a new one.
Gary
andrew e
5th July 2011, 05:35 AM
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the engine upgade you are looking at is no longer available. Its from Jeremy Fearn in the UK. Was going to get mine done the same. It came with a remapped ECU & a piggy back intercooler. Removed from market as the auto couldn't handle the power.
His normal ECU remap will give you 160 kw [215 hp] & 488 Nm [360 lb/ft]. you can send him your ECU remap & return. Have a number of e-mails from him about this.
Didn't know 17" rims would fit on an L322
Good to Know about injectors & tank Thanks Andrew
ONLY 3 more SLEEPS till I pick my TD6 up.
CAN'T WAIT
Was a problem with the instrument cluster. Dealer fitted a new one.
Gary
Bugger. no wonder they have not been returning my emails...
I'll have to make my own intercooler setup then. Not sure about the piggyback setup, mabe i'll remove the large thermo fan and install 2 slim ones so i can get a large IC in there.
17s do fit, i tried a commodore mag a while ago and it still had a few mm clearance. Steel wheels should have even more. Mt plan is to use the 200 series sunraiser rims and make up an adaptor to suit the rangie.
Andy
harlie
5th July 2011, 07:12 AM
17s do fit, i tried a commodore mag a while ago and it still had a few mm clearance. Steel wheels should have even more. Mt plan is to use the 200 series sunraiser rims and make up an adaptor to suit the rangie.
What is the load rating for a Commodore wheel?
Adapters are not legal - quote for NSW RTA
"The wheel must be one designed for the particular hub/axle in respect to bolt pitch circle diameter and wheel nut tapers."
and
"The fitment of wheel spacers (or adaptors for dual wheel conversions) between the wheel mounting face and the road wheel is not permitted unless fitted as original equipment by the vehicle manufacture"
These points are listed in the section detailing: There are limits on the size of wheels that can be certified by a signatory. Which I find interesting – NSW does have a system of certifying wheel/tyre mods (QLD does not) but the limits are clearly defined
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the engine upgade you are looking at is no longer available. Its from Jeremy Fearn in the UK. Was going to get mine done the same. It came with a remapped ECU & a piggy back intercooler. Removed from market as the auto couldn't handle the power.
That makes sense, though I can’t see the point in sending an ECU around the world when we have BAS or Bluefin available who will supply a DIY tool. I’m leaning towards Bluefin but don’t really have that many reports either way…
33chinacars
5th July 2011, 10:00 AM
Something I read ( think it was on RAVE ) has me a bit worried about removing ECU. ECU had to be "reset" by Testbook after refitting for it to work. Bloody hard nearest Testbook nearly 300km away. But others may know far more on this than me
Other options " Autologic" tune. 150 kw / 488 Nm
J.E. engineering 162 kw / 488 Nm
DP chip 158 kw /438 Nm
or Chip-it chip ? kw / ? Nm but more than DP ?
Dont know about B.A.S. or Bluefin
Gary
andrew e
5th July 2011, 12:44 PM
What is the load rating for a Commodore wheel?
Adapters are not legal - quote for NSW RTA
"The wheel must be one designed for the particular hub/axle in respect to bolt pitch circle diameter and wheel nut tapers."
and
"The fitment of wheel spacers (or adaptors for dual wheel conversions) between the wheel mounting face and the road wheel is not permitted unless fitted as original equipment by the vehicle manufacture"
These points are listed in the section detailing: There are limits on the size of wheels that can be certified by a signatory. Which I find interesting – NSW does have a system of certifying wheel/tyre mods (QLD does not) but the limits are clearly defined
That makes sense, though I can’t see the point in sending an ECU around the world when we have BAS or Bluefin available who will supply a DIY tool. I’m leaning towards Bluefin but don’t really have that many reports either way…
Yes they are not allowed by law.....neither are beadlocks. So i will be using them for 'off road use only;).
Something I read ( think it was on RAVE ) has me a bit worried about removing ECU. ECU had to be "reset" by Testbook after refitting for it to work. Bloody hard nearest Testbook nearly 300km away. But others may know far more on this than me
Other options " Autologic" tune. 150 kw / 488 Nm
J.E. engineering 162 kw / 488 Nm
DP chip 158 kw /438 Nm
or Chip-it chip ? kw / ? Nm but more than DP ?
Dont know about B.A.S. or Bluefin
Gary
I know of bluefin owners who are happy.
Andy
andrew e
14th July 2011, 07:58 PM
Grrrrr. :mad: Injector turned up today, so i put it straight in after work. It now blows constant white smoke like its being overfueled. I am hoping that it is diesel trapped in the exhaust side of the engine due to the past jammed injector being re-circulated through the egr.
On a lighter note. The bullbar should be somewhere between perth and sydney, the tyres leave melbourne to come to sydney tomorrow, and the roofracks and other goodies are ariving sunday.
Andy
andrew e
19th July 2011, 07:56 PM
Engine's sorted, the filter (diesel cat converter) was full of diesel. Still has trouble starting, but i think the battery is RS.
I am away this week, but some parts have arrived.
The 285/70/17 km2's, Roof rails, basket, D3 OL Bullbar, and some other cool bits. Hopefully i will be home this weekend and start fitting them.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=37563&stc=1&d=1311072360
Full Length roof rails (Land rover part number CAB000040PMA)
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=37561&stc=1&d=1311072249
New badges (LR part #DAG500160) under $20 IIRC.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=37562&stc=1&d=1311072273
Andy
PAT303
20th July 2011, 03:28 PM
Nice. Pat
Remy
20th July 2011, 09:17 PM
i think i took the wrong tyres:)
chuck
23rd July 2011, 08:56 AM
Andrew
It will be very interesting to see photos with that gear fitted.
Do you think OEM 17's from a D3 would fit?
Does anyone know what 18"tyres will fit an L322 Rangie ie would 275 x 65 x 18 Maxxis Bighorns fit.
What year did they change to 19"rims.
Does anyone know if the GOE (Green Oval Experience) 18" rims for a D4 will fit.
I would love to buy one of the early TDV8 Rangies one day.
Regards
Chuck
clubagreenie
23rd July 2011, 12:23 PM
Yes they are not allowed by law.....neither are beadlocks. So i will be using them for 'off road use only;).
When you say beadlocks do you mean beadlock rims or the inflatable beadlock inserts?
andrew e
23rd July 2011, 08:34 PM
I was going to go for walker evans rims with external beadlocks, but i might do that at a later date whefunds allow.
Tyre sizes that fit, well the bling patrol fit 24 inch rims with 285s and 32" OD tyres with only minor trimming to the rear drivers inner guard (where the fuel pipe goes past). I think the most important thing is the offset of the rims.
Dunno about d3 rims. I phoned TRS in SA and asked them if they could try a 17 on a L322, but they were too busy to help.
I started fitting the bar today, will post pics later. Its slightly easier than i first thought.
Andy.
Leo
24th July 2011, 03:48 AM
Was about to do a deal on a 4.2td Amazon (Landcruiser 100 series VX to you lot) but this thread has given me other ideas - similar age RR are actually a bit cheaper to buy. How much work do you need to do to get the D3 bullbar to fit?
Any ideas for a snorkel?
andrew e
24th July 2011, 08:55 AM
The bullbar only needs the mounts modifying, the rear corners trimmed, and a small finisher pannel installed below the grille. The modification to the crush tubes is not as much as i first thought. You need to make up some fishplates to mount on the chassis to replace the D3 ones, cut the front brackets off and move them up.
The distance between the mounts is the same, as is the overall distance from the car to the bullbar.
Andy
jonnyjon05
2nd April 2014, 08:46 PM
Old thread I know however i wanted to know how you went with the 3 inch exhaust?
Homestar
3rd April 2014, 07:26 PM
Unfortunately Hard Range is no more, and the L322 in question was sold off. Not sure how often Andy gets on here these days - you may be waiting awhile for an answer - unless the new owner of the vehicle is hanging around here?
EDIT - Andrews last activity here was only a week or so ago, so hopefully he might chime in. :)
Bundalene
3rd April 2014, 09:43 PM
The L322 is still here...the 3" exhaust didn't happen. Andy's work commitments means he does quite a bit of travelling.
Erich
Homestar
4th April 2014, 05:21 AM
Do you know if it still for sale Erich? Not that I can buy it - I would get shot, but it would be a good vehicle to get your hands on.:)
jonnyjon05
9th April 2014, 01:21 PM
Any idea about the "Breathers and bash plates"?
I am going down a similar route with my L322, breathers and bash plates would be lovely.
I set out to achieve the following:
1. Winch or Bull Bar.
2. Suspension Lift
3. Off road tires on the OEM wheels (with–in legal limits of +50 mm height and up to 50% wider then standard).
4. ECU Chip or ECU Remap.
5. Road Blaster torque converter.
6. EGR removal
7. Transmission cooler and Intercooler upgrade.
8. Expedition rack.
9. Dual battery.
10. Snorkel.
11. Extra fuel tank.
12. Breather kit and bash plates.
As an extra as i had to take all the inside out to recondition the panels im adding in the stereo.
So far the car has gotten:
1. Winch fitted
2. Suspension lift via IID Tool (Bluetooth), Part Number DA6413
3. Set of five OEM 18 inch wheels brought from Ebay giving a total of 6. At the shop currently getting 275 65 R18 Nitito Terra Grapplers fitted (32 in).
4. ECU remap by Bluefin from Super Chips UK
5. Nothing on the torque converter yet.
6. EGR will be happening over Easter along with a full service.
7. No idea where to start with the intercooler and transmission cooler. Had a look at a mates Nissan 180 sx cooler and it fitted nicely just trying to work out if it would be an improvement or not.
8. The roof rack is in the pipeline just trying all avenues locally before i order one from overseas.
9. The battery wiring is all ready to go just need a battery.
10. For the snorkel I am waiting on Lucky 8 to come out with something like they did for the P38.
11. As the spare wheels are going on the roof I was thinking of a tank in the aft wheel well that is shaped to allow for the EAS pump to still be there in relatively the same spot (on top of the tank), a modest size tool kit and spares parts.
12. Breathers and bash plates anyone?
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=75418&stc=1&d=1397017085
CSBrisie
9th April 2014, 02:27 PM
Great idea re the fuel tank...I wonder if Dolium will look to produce something like this one day...
cheers
clubagreenie
9th April 2014, 04:59 PM
Thought of looking at Ashcrofts for the TC? They have 3 options (sizes) depending on the auto/engine combo you have and are pretty much the goto for autos.
Homestar
9th April 2014, 06:11 PM
Re point 10 - a snorkel - I've had a close look at doing this but the biggest draw back I've found is finding somewhere to mount a decent filter. The factory unit on the early TD6's doesn't seal well. I've always suspected this and it was proved with the destruction of the turbo - by dust - and the supplier of the new turbo saying 'that happens to all of them when they go off road, the factory air cleaner doesn't seal properly'
I'm yet to figure out what to do about this, but I'll be keeping it on the bitumen until I work out a solution.
harlie
9th April 2014, 07:20 PM
7. Intercooler. get some live readings first, IMO the factory intercooler is very good, I have the bluefin remap and intake temps are only a couple degrees up when cruising - about 9 up when really pushed.
Trans cooler. I looked into this, there is space below the DS headlight to fit and angled 250x250 with a fan. Cut in a couple of intakes. Also look at the ecotune ecu upgrade for the trans, it changes the pressures in the converter and alters lock up points resulting in less heat.
Homestar
9th April 2014, 07:27 PM
Yes, factory intercooler is a good bit of kit - it may not look like much or look very big, but when you have one in your hands things are different - one of the best factory intercoolers I've seen - miles ahead of any Jap stuff that I've come across.
Fiddly ****er to swap out though...:D
jonnyjon05
9th April 2014, 09:22 PM
Thanks guys, alot of interest in the subject clearly.
First up, when i find someone to make the fuel tank i will post where i got it done :).
Secondly, I was looking at the Road Blaster Torque converters. one of the gentleman just put one in his car so I will wait for the review.
Gav, for the snorkel, is there anything stopping you from putting a inline K&N. have a look at the very very crude paint drawing. That's what I am thinking sorta :).
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=75472&stc=1&d=1397045777
Harlie, dreams of a better intercooler died pretty quick when i had a look at the temps :/. I had a look at the eco tune website and i couldn't quiet work out what it actually did, is there a part number, software number or point of contact?
As for the transmission cooler, any recommendations?
Keep the comments coming, I want to do this car once, properly :)
33chinacars
10th April 2014, 01:02 AM
Point 12 - bash plate. Here
Mantec | Quality Land Rover Accessories (http://www.mantec.co.uk/productdetail.cfm'theProductID=34097066-15C5-F4C0-991C3F62AA3BEEB9)
Think there was also a factory one as well.
Gary
Homestar
10th April 2014, 05:15 AM
Yeah, there's a big reason stopping me putting a K&N or similar in - I want to keep the dust out...:D. Plenty has been discussed on this subject elsewhere, but there isn't a chance in hell I'd go off road with one. Take heed if you do - you will be following my lead with a new turbo if you try that.
harlie
10th April 2014, 07:02 AM
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Harlie, dreams of a better intercooler died pretty quick when i had a look at the temps :/. I had a look at the eco tune website and i couldn't quiet work out what it actually did, is there a part number, software number or point of contact?
As for the transmission cooler, any recommendations?
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Rhys has a few kits available with a temp switch for the fan built in like the link below. Its been a while since I looked seriously but I think this one won't fit but the next size down will. It will take a bit of fabrication work for mounts and the cooler will need to be on an angle, but there is plenty of space and there is spots to add an intake. Blank off around the cooler so air must pass through it - air flow will be from low front, move back and up.
I didn't end up fitting a cooler after I did a lot of live readings, even towing up mt glorious (very steep and slow with a 120deg hair pin at the bottom) my temp didn't go above 98deg. Around town it goes to 90 when foot is hard down from a green light and (immediately) drops to 86 once throttle is lifted. Highway with TC lockup it sits at 85-86. But for long periods of sand / off road work it would be beneficial.
The ecotune ecu replacement changes the way the clutches and torque converter operate - less clutch slip, earlier partial and full lock up on the converter. One example is - the ecu will alter between normal and sport shift maps to allow full lock up from 55ish km/h (TC locked with the sport shift map so it is running one gear lower but locked.) The TC is a huge source of heat generation, by locking, partial or full at times when it is usually open heat is reduced, by tweaking the cluch operation, heat is reduce through less slippage. However for slow off road work, or highway cruising it will provide no benefit.
PWR 6AN Automatic Transmission OIL Cooler 255mm X 280mm X 19mm With Temp Switch | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PWR-6AN-Automatic-Transmission-Oil-Cooler-255mm-x-280mm-x-19mm-with-Temp-Switch-/140776558560?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20c6efcfe0#ht_2546wt_1123)
disco gazza
10th April 2014, 08:20 AM
Hi Harlie,
Did you get the ecotune for your beast I cant remember whether you did or not.
If yes,whats it like and is it worth the money.
Thanks
cheers
harlie
10th April 2014, 09:29 AM
No mate, I have not. If you're keen let me know, I am going to do it, but didn't get around to finding out how to pay, then forgot, slipped my mind ect ect. It is on my essential list.
I have researched extensively and only found 1 unhappy camper that got his money back anyway. This was probably an unhappy install. Declan on here has it with the BF remap and he’s wrapped.
ahebron
13th April 2014, 04:11 PM
I fitted an ecotune to my gearbox for a week.
Pulled it as it didnt suit the majority of my driving or my gearbox. KIt was abit severe in the changes for my liking.
Anyone interested PM me, it should still be in a box in my shed.
Adrian
jonnyjon05
9th May 2014, 03:26 PM
She is getting there, underbody protection still to come!
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