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adm333
20th January 2011, 11:36 PM
Last Sunday arvo we were at a family picnic near Swansea in NSW. I was booked on a flight from Newcastle airport later in the afternoon as I had to get back to Brisbane.
My wife and I left the picnic and she drove me to the airport and was going back.
Somewhere near Charlestown it came up with an EAS fault on the car and all of the ride height lights came on solid. It didn't drop to the bump stops though.
I thought you bastard, I am racing to get a flight and leaving SWMBO with the possibility of the Rangie and a hard EAS fault miles from home. She was also going to be driving it home solo to Brisbane later in the week.
Anyway, I was travelling with my laptop and I carry all of the cables and paraphernalia in the spare wheel well (under 12 tons of holiday crap).
So we pulled up at the airport. I jump out and go and check in my bags and instruct SWMBO to go and park and start emptying the back so I can get the EAS unlock cable.
I run back to the car, boot up the laptop, connect the cables, try to remember how to select which comms port is active, and soon have the EAS unlock diagnostics up on the screen and cleared the fault. I repeated the process one more time just to be sure, to be sure.
Close down the laptop, run back to the terminal, through security, out the gate and onto the plane as one of the last to board. Close call.
She never heard another peep out of the EAS all week, and drove back to Brisbane today without incident.
So, if you have a P38, then make sure you avail yourself with at least the free EAS unlock tools, as it will always be the worst possible timing when you need it.
Dave
wayneg
21st January 2011, 01:39 PM
I would never venture far from home without my netbook and eas leads. Since ownership I have had 2 events like yours plus another one that was caused by the compressor not running.
I have the eas lead, 4 eas bypass valves and car handbook permanently in the glovebox. The bypass valves are worth their weight in gold when you really need them.
Scouse
21st January 2011, 01:48 PM
I'll have to check out the aftermarket gear for the EAS soon. Our RR lights up all 4 (or sometimes just 3) lights on the EAS panel & stays that way for the 1st 30sec or so after starting. Then the lights go off & all is good until the next time it starts up.
The LR gear at work shows nothing wrong with the system :mad:.
wayneg
21st January 2011, 02:39 PM
I'll have to check out the aftermarket gear for the EAS soon. Our RR lights up all 4 (or sometimes just 3) lights on the EAS panel & stays that way for the 1st 30sec or so after starting. Then the lights go off & all is good until the next time it starts up.
The LR gear at work shows nothing wrong with the system :mad:.
The lights should all come on, presumably part of a self test then go off. Mine go off after 5 to 10 secs and only one remains, hopefully the std ride hight.
Scouse
21st January 2011, 02:46 PM
The "slow 55kph" & extended mode light also come up on the dash when it happens too so there's a problem somewhere.
PaulP38a
21st January 2011, 05:21 PM
Well done Dave, I hope your better half appreciated your gallantry :D
The "slow 55kph" & extended mode light also come up on the dash when it happens too so there's a problem somewhere.
Scott - there is an EAS Unlock Cable over at Andy's place with your name on it ;)
Before I put the EAS Emergency Bypass Kit in mine, I carried a "pigtail cable" and the instructions from Rangerovers.net on how to hot-wire the EAS, after an incident on Boxing Day a couple of years ago. I am still appreciative of Ron's "mercy dash" to save us a very bumpy ride home that day.
These days I go a little over the top:
EAS Emergency Bypass Kit
onboard air kit
manual air compressor in the boot
set of 6mm elbows and schraeder valves.
netbook with cigar lighter power adapter, RAVE ISO, EAS Unlock and Vehicle Explorer s/w
FaultMate MSV-2 Extreme
EAS Kicker Lite, or EAS Buddy (don't recall which, but it lives in the glovebox)
EAS Unlock Cable
Cheers, Paul.
milld
21st January 2011, 06:03 PM
Well done Dave, I hope your better half appreciated your gallantry :D
Scott - there is an EAS Unlock Cable over at Andy's place with your name on it ;)
Before I put the EAS Emergency Bypass Kit in mine, I carried a "pigtail cable" and the instructions from Rangerovers.net on how to hot-wire the EAS, after an incident on Boxing Day a couple of years ago. I am still appreciative of Ron's "mercy dash" to save us a very bumpy ride home that day.
These days I go a little over the top:
EAS Emergency Bypass Kit
onboard air kit
manual air compressor in the boot
set of 6mm elbows and schraeder valves.
netbook with cigar lighter power adapter, RAVE ISO, EAS Unlock and Vehicle Explorer s/w
FaultMate MSV-2 Extreme
EAS Kicker Lite, or EAS Buddy (don't recall which, but it lives in the glovebox)
EAS Unlock Cable
Cheers, Paul.
:eek: Bloody hell, how many EAS things can you get haha. You must really have a love/hate relationship with it LOL:p
Rushy
22nd January 2011, 03:17 PM
I always travel with the essentials
1. EAS Kicker Lite
2. RACQ Card
3. Eternal optimism
so far only item 1. required but item 3. always needed
Cheers
Rushy
adm333
24th January 2011, 09:46 AM
I haven't mentioned it on here for a while, but there are a lot more P38 owners now, so what the heck.
A few years ago I built myself an EAS manual controller based on the pigtail wiring principle, but instead of mucking around trying to remember which pins to jump I built it permanenetly into the car.
I used a 25pin printer cable and soldered the appropriate wires into the back of the EAS ECU harness. This lives permanently under the passenger seat. The other end is all wired up into a controller box which lives in the spare wheel well.
When I need it I simply plug in the 25 pin printer plug and can take control of the compressor and valve block, bypassing the ECU altogether.
Some pics here
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/44616-building-manual-eas-controller.html
Dave
parasnoop67
24th January 2011, 01:06 PM
In my cubby box I carry a buddy box-usb version -and some air line connectors, an air line cutter, and in with the spare wheel, some airline(about 3 metres) and I carry an electric air pump. My vehicle also has a manual air recovery system(MARS) with 4 airline taps.
When I was having trouble a couple of months back, when a fault came up on a long trip, I would pull the plug on the air pump and turn off the 4 taps and the vehicle would stay up all day.
This had to be done quickly after the beeps, before the air was let out and the vehicle went to the bump stops.
Sometimes I would apply the buddy box and clear the fault, only to have it come back in half to one hour, particularely on smooth road.
I replaced the front right height sensor and all works fine now.
whisky_mac
25th January 2011, 07:44 AM
I run back to the car, boot up the laptop, connect the cables, try to remember how to select which comms port is active, and soon have the EAS unlock diagnostics up on the screen and cleared the fault. I repeated the process one more time just to be sure, to be sure.
So, if you have a P38, then make sure you avail yourself with at least the free EAS unlock tools, as it will always be the worst possible timing when you need it.
Dave
Hi Dave,
I have a 98 P38. Already had one incident with the EAS and we are fitting valves into the lines so I can use my compressor to pump them up if stuck.
You mention the free EAS unlock tools. Where do I get them. Do I need to purchase faultmate or something similar. In June we set out for three months going up past Lake Eyre to Darwin and then over to the west and down. Because many in the country areas throw there hands up in the air when you have a problem with the RRs I need to be able to do a bit myself.
Jim
DT-P38
25th January 2011, 04:39 PM
Go to hardrange.com to buy yourself a cable and ghet a copy of the software for free. The owners are a pair of very helpful lads who look after us AULROIANS where and whenever they can.
wanglemoose
25th January 2011, 04:53 PM
convert it to coils = no more EAS problems ever.
works for me.
milld
25th January 2011, 04:56 PM
convert it to coils = no more EAS problems ever.
works for me.
haha, I was waiting for someone to say that lol, glad I did it to my classic :D
DT-P38
25th January 2011, 05:27 PM
here we go again!
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