Pajero Vs Defender in motor accident...

[rutmutt]

Hey guys..

Thought I'd supply a couple of photos after I got involved in a little motor accident the other day. I got rear Ended by a Pajero (not his fault, he got rear ended by a falcon, not his fault either as he was hit from behind by a semi trailer!!) No one was hurt but heres the difference in vehicles.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Note the two broken lenses... tiny black dent on the rear door... smashed latch and slightly twisted bar (dual carrier... trying to find a replacement under insurance if anyone knows where to get one).. now heres the Pajero....





https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Ouch!

[Blknight.aus]

VVV:cool:

[isuzutoo-eh]

Solid steel vs plastic fantastic :eek:

Are they free wheeling rear hubs on your 110?

[Celtoid]

Geez the nudge bar didn't help much, did it? :)

[pfillery]

The Spanish meaning or translation of Pajero is actually a word that starts with W and rhymes with anchor.

At least your repair bill will be low (or should I say the other drivers repair bill)

[robbotd5]

Nice. But I do not think my D2a would have faired any better than the Paj.
Regards
Robbo

[Dazza67]

Geez the nudge bar didn't help much, did it? :)


Is that a nudge bar?????

And yep I doubt many vehicles woud come off any better, hope the fender is Ok

Dazza

[wagoo]

I suppose if a class of vehicle is required by ADR's to have a progressive crumple zone, that would be the expected result.
Wagoo.

[justinc]

I suppose if a class of vehicle is required by ADR's to have a progressive crumple zone, that would be the expected result.
Wagoo.

Correct, that Paj is supposed to look like that after hitting a vehicle with NO crumple zone. The energy is disipated before it impacts on the passenger cell.

I would hazard a guess and say if the roles were reversed, the driver of the Defender may have been a bit sore:(

JC

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Geez the nudge bar didn't help much, did it? :)Looks like more than a nudge! :o

One would wonder if your chassis isn't twisted though?

[Tombie]

Spot on JC
And if it was Semi, Defender then Pajero the deefer driver would be hurting pretty bad.
The Pajero WAS your crumple zone!

[It'sNotWorthComplaining!]

Monocoque vs ladder chassis, Ladder chassis equals trip to hospital, monocoque probably means written off car but driver escapes with light injury

[twodoors]

Hey guys..

Thought I'd supply a couple of photos after I got involved in a little motor accident the other day. I got rear Ended by a Pajero (not his fault, he got rear ended by a falcon, not his fault either as he was hit from behind by a semi trailer!!) No one was hurt but heres the difference in vehicles.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs006.snc6/165604_492446019284_562639284_6196797_4153544_n.jp g

Note the two broken lenses... tiny black dent on the rear door... smashed latch and slightly twisted bar (dual carrier... trying to find a replacement under insurance if anyone knows where to get one).. now heres the Pajero....





http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs792.ash1/168220_492446074284_562639284_6196798_6878053_n.jp g

Ouch!

Mate,

Hope that all occupants faired well...

Do you have a couple of pics looking up so I can see the mounting of the bumper to chassis and any re-enforcing around the wheel carrier post... Got to try and knock a bar like that for a mate and maybe a similar for the disco...
James

[rutmutt]

James,

I'll go take some and msg them to you.

[twodoors]

James,

I'll go take some and msg them to you.

Cheers in advance.

James

[Ace]

The pajero is designed to do that though. The crumple in the vehicle means less impact absorbed by the occupants.

[F4Phantom]

in a small accident this is fine but as many have stated the pajero is better for your health.

[jimbo110]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/07/83.jpg

[superquag]

As one who owns an example of both, - Generation I Paj turbo-diesel and 95 Classic Range Rover, - there is NO doubt in my mind that the Pajero has the stronger chassis by far.

The Rangie's folded tin-plate terrifies me, and after crawling under my new toy... can understand why companies such as Marslands and Richards Marsland Chassis - Landrover Chassis replacements - Home page (http://www.marslands.com) and Richards Chassis (http://www.richardschassis.co.uk) have stayed in business...

It would have been a differant story if the Paj had hit hard enough to penetrate through the padding at the front and hit chassis-to-chassis.

When I win Lotto, I'll be putting a PAJERO body & diesel engine on top of a beefed up Richards chassis, just to get the better off-road suspension...

- Then I'll have the ultimate 4WD, a vehicle that goes anywhere with ease... and is reliable enough to get TO the rough stuff..and get HOME afterwards...with electrics that always work.

How boring.....

Grumpy Old James in Gosnells WA.

The EH, a 95 Classic Vogue SE with *working* EAS. ! - and 90% Cruise-Control

[wagoo]

As one who owns an example of both, - Generation I Paj turbo-diesel and 95 Classic Range Rover, - there is NO doubt in my mind that the Pajero has the stronger chassis by far.

The Rangie's folded tin-plate terrifies me, and after crawling under my new toy... can understand why companies such as Marslands and Richards Marsland Chassis - Landrover Chassis replacements - Home page (http://www.marslands.com) and Richards Chassis (http://www.richardschassis.co.uk) have stayed in business...
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I agree the folded tin plate chassis is and always was a bit crap, Rusts away rapidly in damp environments,requires laminates in high stessed areas which further aggravates corrosion, and is a bit tender when high centrering over rocks, logs etc.But because they aren't as solid as a lot think they are, they will crumple and lessen the impact shock to occupants.The Rangerover Classic lower body structure however is heavy, rigid and very strong. It's virtually a monocoque mounted onto a separate chassis.
Wagoo.

[UncleHo]

Maybe the reason that Marsland and Richards have been in business is that in the UK they salt the road when it snows, and the chassis frames rust out, it's like driving down the beach in the first line of breakers, sorry, but I will take my chances behind and above a full chassis, over a monocoque one and that's from sombody that had an incident with a tree in a full chassis forward control van :(

[twodoors]

Mmm remindes me... I've not been fishing for a while...;)