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weeds
27th January 2011, 01:58 PM
stumbled across this in an email wh ich had reference to ARB in it, pretty sure it has nor been posted..

i have mentioned before that it would not bother me either way but as the topic gets a little emotional around here here is a link to voice your thoughts


Bull Bars Under Threat (http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/317270/Bull-Bars-Under-Threat)

i did fill the survey out as a good cause gets a donation

i wonder how many surveys will be filled out accurately

here are the comments i typed

I believe selecting the time of day for travel on out back roads reduces the events of animal strikes i.e. i have never hit an animal but than again i only travel between 8am and 4pm. i understand the thime of day is not suitable to all. I am normally on holidays when touring the outback therefore there is no rus and no need to travel at night

a front bar is handy to mount my winch, compressed air outlet, comms antenna and recovery points all of which i have used.

i do have a set of secondhand driving lights that have been fitted for two years but have not been used

at minimum the term bullbar needs to be dropped

JohnF
27th January 2011, 02:22 PM
I filled out a survey a couple of weeks ago on this, from a link in another thread. If some one tells me this is a different survey, I will do another survey, John.

weeds
27th January 2011, 02:32 PM
found the ARB link

ARB 4x4 Accessories (http://arb.com.au/)

rick130
27th January 2011, 06:18 PM
Kelvin, in my response I kept it very matter of fact but strongly pointed out that I live within 4.5 hours of a major capital city and have to contend with roo/animal strikes on a daily basis, it's not just outback/remote area travel these incidents occur.

In fact I mentioned that the two biggest hits I've had were in the middle of the day and within 2-2.5 hours of Sydney's CBD.

Mick_Marsh
27th January 2011, 08:20 PM
within 2-2.5 hours of Sydney's CBD.
So that's in the suburbs then.

Blknight.aus
27th January 2011, 08:29 PM
I live in a major urban area.

Ive hit roos on the way to work.

It only takes me 8 minutes to drive from home to work and that includes getting through the gates at work.

never ceases to amaze me how when theres no roo warning on base everyone speeds round me. When the roo warning is in place everyons happy to sit behind me at whatever speed I want to do.

Tombie
27th January 2011, 08:41 PM
So that's in the suburbs then.

That's Paramatta :D

Dave1
27th January 2011, 09:00 PM
Tell the goverment to leave us alone. I love the French, strike and tell the bastards to **** off. Aussies Jooolya knows best.

Tank
28th January 2011, 01:40 PM
I filled out a survey on banning bullbars and in the comments section I emphasized that any politician or political party that tries to introduce this crap legislation will find thereselves out of a job and or in opposition, preferrably out of a job, that's what pollies understand, Regards Frank.

incisor
28th January 2011, 01:41 PM
and another letter on it

3toes
8th February 2011, 10:41 AM
I live in a major urban area.

Ive hit roos on the way to work.

It only takes me 8 minutes to drive from home to work and that includes getting through the gates at work.

never ceases to amaze me how when theres no roo warning on base everyone speeds round me. When the roo warning is in place everyons happy to sit behind me at whatever speed I want to do.

Image that comes to mind here is Land-Rover on the long straight drag strip out the front of your work with a couple of jets tucked in behind due to the roo warning.

MickS
8th February 2011, 11:39 AM
From Sunday's paper...

Metal bullbars phased out by federal government vehicle design (http://smh.drive.com.au/metal-bullbar-ban-plan-like-a-red-rag-to-offroad-drivers-20110205-1ahmr.html)

"The following is a quick summary of the proposed requirements for vehicles and VFPS (bull bars)..."

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/files/Pedestrian_Safety_Requirement_Summary.pdf

cal415
8th February 2011, 02:26 PM
''We have been campaigning about this for 15 years,'' council chairman Harold Scruby said. ''All governments are scared of upsetting the bush vote because it is so marginal. They banned bullbars in Europe in 2005 because they are lethal. They kill people"
And getting hit by a car/truck/4wd or what ever without a bull bar wont kill you?

Maybe we should test this on Harold Scruby.

josh aka sean
8th February 2011, 02:43 PM
From Sunday's paper...

Metal bullbars phased out by federal government vehicle design (http://smh.drive.com.au/metal-bullbar-ban-plan-like-a-red-rag-to-offroad-drivers-20110205-1ahmr.html)

"The following is a quick summary of the proposed requirements for vehicles and VFPS (bull bars)..."

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/files/Pedestrian_Safety_Requirement_Summary.pdf

I particularly like how the Subaru Forester falls into the same category as a Nissan Patrol and Land cruiser and get to meet the Aussie standards yet the 2wd hilux etc have to meet the Euro standards

MickS
8th February 2011, 05:32 PM
And getting hit by a car/truck/4wd or what ever without a bull bar wont kill you?

Maybe we should test this on Harold Scruby.

He is a sad sad little man. A serial pest. A human headline with a hatred of all things vehicular, a fax machine and too much time on his hands. But by virtue of his constant barrage of complaints, he has an audience with the RTA, friends in government and other authorities.

A Scruby quote....

"I would urge any person who has ever been struck by a bull bar to get in touch with us or their lawyers because I can assure you that 90 per cent of the bull bars today are illegal. It's only a matter of time before people who have bull bars are going to be sued for a lot of money. That will also include the people who fit the bull bars, who manufacture the bull bars and, perhaps in the future, those who approve the bull bars being fitted."

Feel free to express yourself, as he has a hotfrog page.

Harold Scruby Consultancies (http://www.hotfrog.com.au/Companies/Harold-Scruby-Consultancies)

I suspect at some point roof racks, plumbers trucks, glass trucks etc will be on his agenda...as opposed to educating the brain dead maggot pedestrians he supposedly represents, who flagrantly break the law everyday; eyes are down texting; their ears full of music from their mp3.

He also is at the forefront of wanting to change our flag.

AusFlag: DATELINES: Harold Scruby - Campaigner For a New Flag (http://www.ausflag.com.au/datelines_harold_scruby_campaigner_for_new_flag.as p)