Isuzu shocks

[85 county]

OK so chipping away.

Next is shocks before I get stuck into the running gear.

Who is running what.

ideally I would like the soft ride that I have now. But the front shocks are a bit shot there the rear seem ok ATM. apart from the fount shocks being red I have no idea what they are.

Ideally I would like to pick up 50mm over stock travel which i don’t seem to have at the moment.
Load leveler and no sway bars.

And yes I have used search, plenty there but not much for the Isuzu’s extra weight.

[justinc]

Here I am banging on about DeCarbons again, but having had them in the RRC/ Isuzu for 7 years and seen a fair bit of rough stuff, recently took them out and fitted them to the front of the 110 as they were still as new in feel and no leaks etc, can't fault them for ride quality and control. There are better, like Koni Raid and heavy track etc but I am happy with these, very happy.

JC

[85 county]

Here I am banging on about DeCarbons again, but having had them in the RRC/ Isuzu for 7 years and seen a fair bit of rough stuff, recently took them out and fitted them to the front of the 110 as they were still as new in feel and no leaks etc, can't fault them for ride quality and control. There are better, like Koni Raid and heavy track etc but I am happy with these, very happy.

JC

how are thay for heating up? dirt roads and higher speeds etc

[Dougal]

80 series landcruiser koni's.
The height works out perfectly if you have another inch under your bump-stops and they give about 2 inches extra down-stroke.
Great ride, great handling and adjustable rebound so you can set it where you want it.

You will likely need longer brake lines.

[Offender90]

Errrr... I probably can't add much just yet, but thought I'd throw in a few questions.

1.) What sort of springs do you have on the county at the moment, and are you planning to keep them? The reason I ask is that the choice of shocks will ideally be matched to the springs that you have, and the weight (and purpose) of the car.

2.) What will be the major purpose of the setup? Will it be more of a weekend toy, a workhorse or or a tourer? This will to a degree determine how much load you're typically going to carry, but more importantly, it may dictate what type of shock you should go for. On a tourer for example, your primary consideration may be capacity for heat dissipation - in which case you would want monotubed shocks. On a weekend warrior, on the other hand, it doesn't so much matter as you're unlikely to encounter endless monster corrugations while fully loaded, and you may find that wheel travel is a bigger consideration.

3.) What is your budget - or rather, how much money do you want to / are you prepared to spend on the shocks?

Nehow, let us know what your plans are, and we'll take it from there.

Cheers

Bojan

[cheyne_r]

I have a two inch lift and don't carry alot (or any) weight 90% of the time. So I went with softer springs with polyairs in the rear and Tough Dog adjustable shocks (45mm bore) suited to the lift (about 50mm extra travel in the shocks). These have been unreal on everything from the highway to rough tracks and outback roads. Can't fault them. Everyone always comments on how smooth the ride is, my mate reckons it rides better than his TD5 Disco, so he is now running the same shocks on his car.

[85 county]

As for what springs she has at the moment, I don’t know. But she rides better than the D1 with kings or our previous D1 300tdi stock.
Soft ride which is quite nice, but that could be because the shocks are stuffed.

She sits a little higher in the front than a new puma but hasn’t got that bum in the air look. She sits level, load her up and the load leveler sorts her out again.

I guess a load with fuel 130ltrs, water 140 ltrs. fridge tent and body’s = 750 Kgs?

We are not into the rock climbing thing or squirting testosterone around by busting CVs and axles every weekend.

Our last descent trip consisted of 10 hours of back tracks, trying to follow tracks in the long grass or trying to fined away though washouts along with a couple of descent ( one technical clime) and a really lose and a bit hairy descent. It also consisted of about 14 hour’s highway 110kms an hour stuff.

5 days all up, DIDINT want to come home

[justinc]

how are thay for heating up? dirt roads and higher speeds etc

Really good, I had the rear ones fade very slightly after high speed towing on corrugated road with 45psi in the rear tyres:eek:, let them down to 30 and all was fine. Lesson learnt that day about stopping and reducing tyre pressures coming off Bitumen.

As I said, they were new when that happened, have been conscious of it ever since and consequently they are still as good as new 7 years on:)
They are monotube, have had heaps of offroading too and still no issues.

JC

[85 county]

Really good, I had the rear ones fade very slightly after high speed towing on corrugated road with 45psi in the rear tyres:eek:, let them down to 30 and all was fine. Lesson learnt that day about stopping and reducing tyre pressures coming off Bitumen.

As I said, they were new when that happened, have been conscious of it ever since and consequently they are still as good as new 7 years on:)
They are monotube, have had heaps of offroading too and still no issues.

JC

ok what where and how much? i tryed googleing last night with out much luck.

[rar110]

I have had Dobinson shocks for the past 4 or 5 years. Quite a big bore. 110 is used as a daily driver and touring. No issues with. I am currently using with 130 springs. I am happy with the ride.

[lokka]

ok what where and how much? i tryed googleing last night with out much luck.

X2 also do they come in longer length to suit 2in lift and to give a bit extra travel

[isuzurover]

I have Bilsteins all round which I am very happy with.

They have now done almost 200k km over >10 years. The rears seem to be starting to fade now after an hour or so of driving corrugated roads in hot weather. So I think at least the rears could do with a rebuild or replacement. While I am at it I should fit longer rear shocks due to the air springs.

Does anyone have a PN for bilsteins rears that are about 2" longer than the standard items? Does such a beast exist???

[lokka]

Does anyone have a PN for bilsteins rears that are about 2" longer than the standard items? Does such a beast exist???


This info would be handy as well as the same for the front as that is all im after in extra length for the county

[85 county]

Yes all info is good

Since we lose and inch or more with the lower stops up front

Are the shock towers lowered to compensate ( I doubt) or in stock trim did they just have the lower stops.

If then, and because we have lower mounts can we fit a longer shock. Do we need a beefier shock for the extra weight etc etc etc

[Dougal]

Yes all info is good

Since we lose and inch or more with the lower stops up front

Are the shock towers lowered to compensate ( I doubt) or in stock trim did they just have the lower stops.

If then, and because we have lower mounts can we fit a longer shock. Do we need a beefier shock for the extra weight etc etc etc

Which is where 80 series landcruiser shocks come in.
Perfect length for stock towers with a 1 inch longer bump-stop.
Front axle weight of an 80 series landcruiser is almost identical to a 4BD1 powered landrover.
Gives up to two inches more stroke depending on the model and it's all perfectly usable.

[85 county]

Which is where 80 series landcruiser shocks come in.
Perfect length for stock towers with a 1 inch longer bump-stop.
Front axle weight of an 80 series landcruiser is almost identical to a 4BD1 powered landrover.
Gives up to two inches more stroke depending on the model and it's all perfectly usable.

Dougal, considering that 80 series landcruiser shocks are the first thing dumped by any 80 series landcruiser driver. Or at least after the first time it does a sideways dance, chattering is way down a strait bit of corrugated road at 90 deg to the direction of travel. Or the tojo driver who manages to over come all this and maintains a great rate of knots only to see flames licking out from under his wheel archers.
Tojo shocks would be a giant leap backwards.

The mono tube, De Carbons are sounding good, just haven’t found any numbers on them yet.
the mono tube, De Carbons are sounding good, just havent found any numbers on them yet.

[dobbo]

I read his post as the front axle weight is the same as an 80. Not go to a wreckers and grab the first 80 series shocks you find.


Dougal, considering that 80 series landcruiser shocks are the first thing dumped by any 80 series landcruiser driver. Or at least after the first time it does a sideways dance, chattering is way down a strait bit of corrugated road at 90 deg to the direction of travel. Or the tojo driver who manages to over come all this and maintains a great rate of knots only to see flames licking out from under his wheel archers.
Tojo shocks would be a giant leap backwards.

The mono tube, De Carbons are sounding good, just haven’t found any numbers on them yet.
the mono tube, De Carbons are sounding good, just havent found any numbers on them yet.

[justinc]

Dougal, considering that 80 series landcruiser shocks are the first thing dumped by any 80 series landcruiser driver. Or at least after the first time it does a sideways dance, chattering is way down a strait bit of corrugated road at 90 deg to the direction of travel. Or the tojo driver who manages to over come all this and maintains a great rate of knots only to see flames licking out from under his wheel archers.
Tojo shocks would be a giant leap backwards.

The mono tube, De Carbons are sounding good, just haven’t found any numbers on them yet.
the mono tube, De Carbons are sounding good, just havent found any numbers on them yet.

Did you get my PM?

http://www.extreme4x4.co.uk/acatalog/DeCARBON_SHOCKS.html#adeCarbon_20Shocks For others who are interested too :)

JC

[Dougal]

Dougal, considering that 80 series landcruiser shocks are the first thing dumped by any 80 series landcruiser driver. Or at least after the first time it does a sideways dance, chattering is way down a strait bit of corrugated road at 90 deg to the direction of travel. Or the tojo driver who manages to over come all this and maintains a great rate of knots only to see flames licking out from under his wheel archers.
Tojo shocks would be a giant leap backwards.

The mono tube, De Carbons are sounding good, just haven’t found any numbers on them yet.
the mono tube, De Carbons are sounding good, just havent found any numbers on them yet.

Don't get OEM landcruiser shocks, get koni's or bilsteins etc which are made to fit 80 series front's.;)

[85 county]

Did you get my PM?

Extreme 4x4 Ltd deCARBON SHOCKS (http://www.extreme4x4.co.uk/acatalog/DeCARBON_SHOCKS.html#adeCarbon_20Shocks) For others who are interested too :)

JC

404 and then OPTUS Bla

[DeeJay]

I have Bilsteins all round which I am very happy with.

They have now done almost 200k km over >10 years. The rears seem to be starting to fade now after an hour or so of driving corrugated roads in hot weather. So I think at least the rears could do with a rebuild or replacement. While I am at it I should fit longer rear shocks due to the air springs.

Does anyone have a PN for bilsteins rears that are about 2" longer than the standard items? Does such a beast exist???


I bought them for my County.
Described as --
B46-1477 LONG TRAVEL REAR TO SUIT 110 LAND ROVER
I also got stone protectors 46M1478
Quadrant automotive, the Melb distributor's part no for the protectors was SP-1123
They also fitted SP-1021 UNI LARGE EYE BUSH E4-B46-450 X 4

:)

[Dougal]

I have Bilsteins all round which I am very happy with.

They have now done almost 200k km over >10 years. The rears seem to be starting to fade now after an hour or so of driving corrugated roads in hot weather. So I think at least the rears could do with a rebuild or replacement. While I am at it I should fit longer rear shocks due to the air springs.

Does anyone have a PN for bilsteins rears that are about 2" longer than the standard items? Does such a beast exist???

How are you finding the ride with air compared to coil springs? Does the same damper tune handle both types well?

[isuzurover]

How are you finding the ride with air compared to coil springs? Does the same damper tune handle both types well?

I find the shocks work well with the air springs. Others have reported differently though.