TDV6 ECU upgrade options

[karlblues2]

I've done several searches but can't find anything specifically on this. Apologies in advance if it's the 37th time of asking!

Has anyone used the :
DTUK CRD2 Multimap Power System - Land Rover Discovery 2.7 TDV6 190 PS
from Diesel Tuning UK? GBP350. Claims to improve power and torque from 140kw to 171kw and torque from 44Nm to 530Nm.

If not, has anyone had the remap done through Ritters in Melbourne? Interested in opinions, acknowledging they are like backsides. Everyone has a different one!
Cheers
Karl

[Disco4SE]

I've done several searches but can't find anything specifically on this. Apologies in advance if it's the 37th time of asking!

Has anyone used the :
DTUK CRD2 Multimap Power System - Land Rover Discovery 2.7 TDV6 190 PS
from Diesel Tuning UK? GBP350. Claims to improve power and torque from 140kw to 171kw and torque from 44Nm to 530Nm.

If not, has anyone had the remap done through Ritters in Melbourne? Interested in opinions, acknowledging they are like backsides. Everyone has a different one!
Cheers
Karl
Hi Karl,
Had my D3 done at Ritters in Melbourne.
Was very happy with it. Despite them telling me that I wouldn't notice much difference around town, I did. Appreciated it more when towing.
PM me if you want to know more.

Cheers, Craig

[Bushwanderer]

Hi Karl,
Sorry, but I've never heard of them.

More importantly, I don't know of any D3 owner in the UK who has used them, .

Some of the more common remaps in the UK are TorqTune, Bell Auto Services (BAS) and Turbo Chip (who, I think, uses BAS maps).

I know of one guy in Sydney who is very pleased with his Bluefin remap.

HTH,
Peter

[101RRS]

What about the upgrades offered by AULRO member - Tombie

TD6, TDV6 & V8 ECU Upgrades (http://web.mac.com/rovertech/TRT/LR_TD6_TDV6_TDV8_ECU_Upgrades.html)

[trobbo]

I have a BAS remap on mine. Can notice the extra performance when towing but otherwise hardly know it's been done.

[peterall]

My BAS remap via Tombie has been great. More pep around town and when towing, better consumption figures.

[gghaggis]

The DTUK is a plug-in tuning box, not a remap. Although the instant result to the driver is similar, they are very different things.

The plug-in box (a hardware fix) intercepts the signal between the ECU and the injectors, so can only control fuel load and duration. An ECU remap (a software fix) can change all the parameters under control of the ECU, which includes turbo speed/output, engine timing etc.

Long story short, a plug-in box basically dumps more fuel into your cylinders, giving you more power, but with some risk to the injectors, linings, higher exhaust temps etc. A remap gives the same effect (more power) but with less risk to the motor. Obviously plug-in boxes are cheaper, so that's your trade-off.

Cheers,

Gordon

[CaverD3]

I have a bluefin Supchips remap. Very happy with it. Plug in to upload new map and can be put back to original anytime.:)

[Tombie]

I have a bluefin Supchips remap. Very happy with it. Plug in to upload new map and can be put back to original anytime.:)

Bluefin is similar to the BAS module

[CaverD3]

Except the advantage of the BAS is it reads faults codes too. :)
But bluefin is cheaper.
Make your choice?

[Tombie]

Except the advantage of the BAS is it reads faults codes too. :)
But bluefin is cheaper.
Make your choice?

Bluefin costs how much?

[Redback]

Has anyone checked for EGT increases with these upgrades, are they as bad as the increases that the TD5 suffers from??

Baz.

[gghaggis]

Has anyone checked for EGT increases with these upgrades, are they as bad as the increases that the TD5 suffers from??

Baz.

If you're talking about remaps (as opposed to plug-in boxes), it depends on the talents of the tuner. A reputable tuner will ensure that their map doesn't significantly increase the EGT.

A plug-in box will generally affect the EGT to a greater extent.

Cheers,

Gordon

[discowhite]

Bluefin costs how much?


$740aud +$30post stg 2&3 maps extra $150

cheers phil

[doddsy]

Anyone used the Autologic remap being offered in Melbourne ?

I have a TDV6 2.7, and I am told it can increase power upto 23 kw more and give better Km per tank ?

Seems Expensive at $850, but the BAS solution by Bell electronics is'nt that far off that price. Though you do get the box I suppose.

Cheers

Doddsy

[Tombie]

Anyone used the Autologic remap being offered in Melbourne ?

I have a TDV6 2.7, and I am told it can increase power upto 23 kw more and give better Km per tank ?

Seems Expensive at $850, but the BAS solution by Bell electronics is'nt that far off that price. Though you do get the box I suppose.

Cheers

Doddsy

With BAS remap you also can remove it for dealer servicing and replace it after.

OR, get a 2nd tune and have a "play tune" and a "tourer tune"

OR get a "the kids borrowing the car" tune

[Stuart02]

Can the D4 2.7 be re-tuned the same as the D3? For some reason I gathered the ECU was harder to 'crack'?

[Disco4SE]

Can the D4 2.7 be re-tuned the same as the D3? For some reason I gathered the ECU was harder to 'crack'?
Stuart, I was told by my LR dealer that the D4 has more electronics, making it harder to alter its performance. Whether they were telling me that so I wouldn't attempt it....I don't know.
Cheers, Craig

[CaverD3]

I think the D4s have the new Bosch anti cracking system. However I am not sure if it is just the 3.0L that has it or not. I suspect the 2.7 D4 is easier as there is a Bluefin re-map for the 2.7 D4, look at the link earlier in this thread.

[discowhite]

i was told today by bluefin that the 3.0l cant be done atmo due to a security issue, however any 2.7L can be done.

cheers phil

[gghaggis]

As I mentioned earlier, only DMS has a remap for the 3.0 ltr in Australia - they cracked the encryption some time ago. There are a few others that claim they can do it, but no product for sale as yet.

All the 2.7's use the same hardware/firmware, so remapping a 2.7 D4 is pretty much the same as a 2.7 D3.

Cheers,

Gordon

[Tombie]

3.0l remaps are done by opening the ecu at this stage.
BAS does in-house only.

[CaverD3]

There is a Superchips dealer in NZ who comes to Oz regularly who can upgrade the 3.0L. :D

[Stuart02]

3.0l remaps are done by opening the ecu at this stage.
BAS does in-house only.

And is Gghaggis right, Tombie, that the D4 2.7 is the same deal as the D3 to remap?

[Stuart02]

Here's what Pete at BAS told me:

"The 2.7 MY2010 car uses the same ecu as the pre 2010 2.7l which is a Siemens, it uses 11bit CAN over the old 29bit CAN but in essence is the same system.
There is no current remove solution for tuning this car as the interface makers have not added the new 11 bit can to their tools as yet, i can do them in the workshop here but thats no good as you are so far away.
re mechanical upgrades, its ultimately a D3 with a face lift so all parts will fit just as per the D3"

So, yes but not yet is the answer to my question...

[CaverD3]

Here's what Pete at BAS told me:

"There is no current remove solution for tuning this car as the interface makers have not added the new 11 bit can to their tools as yet, i can do them in the workshop here but thats no good as you are so far away."

So, yes but not yet is the answer to my question...

If this is about the 2.7L engine in the MY010 D4 then he is wrong as the bluefin interface does it. See earlier link.

[Stuart02]

If this is about the 2.7L engine in the MY010 D4 then he is wrong as the bluefin interface does it. See earlier link.
He wasn't talking about Bluefin, he was talking about his product. But thanks, I did read the earlier link.

[Discophil]

I am thinking of putting a Haltech chip in my 2005 TVD6. Has anyone else had any experience with these?

Cheers.

[CaverD3]

I take it that the Haltech is a plug in chip?

I say you are better getting a remap as the plugins are using a sledgehammer approach. Re-maps are better for modern diesels.

[doddsy]

So it's on, ordered the BAS from pete at Bell Electronics.

Will keep posted how it goes.. Fingers crossed..

[NomadicD3]

So it's on, ordered the BAS from pete at Bell Electronics.

Will keep posted how it goes.. Fingers crossed..

You won't be disappointed. Had mine on for a few weeks now. Easy to get up and running and the difference is:burnrubber::spudnikshooter:

[doddsy]

Well got my remap box from Pete at Bell Autos ( great bloke )

after a nerve wracking upload ( minutes seemed like days )to the ECU the box performed flawlessly and delivered my extra 38 BHP. Nice.

Disco now is super responsive, overtakes beautifully.

Elastic band throttle is gone :D

Cheers Pete

[Disco4SE]

This question has probably been answered elsewhere, however, will the re-map have to be re-loaded if Landrover do a software update etc????
Also, how much did the BAS remap cost all up?
Cheers, Craig

[CaverD3]

Only if they update the ECU. It is best to remove it if it goes toi the dealer inn case they do.

[doddsy]

Pete recommends you put the original file back on the disco before any trips to the stealers.

It takes a couple of minutes to do. That way it prevents any problems with dealer updates ;)

Best thing about BAS remap tool is, you own it, swap and change in minutes.

Cost was 519 GB pounds delivered to Australia via UPS.

Thats a forum discounted price. Usually 645 GBP

[wyperfield]

I have a bluefin Superchips remap. Very happy with it. Plug in to upload new map and can be put back to original anytime.:)
Hi CaverD3,
I'm interested in getting the Bluefin Superchip ECU remap that you have. The price and ease of installation seems OK.
Question: Is seems from the website that you connect the Bluefin hand contoller to a connector under the steering wheel, then do the upgrade by following the prompts on the device.
If this is the case, can the one unit be used for many vehicles, saving everyone who needs an upgrade from buying one.
i.e. Do you think it is feasible to hire the device for use by others with the same vehicle or is it a one-off per vehicle job?
Interested in your feedback, thanks,
Wyperfield

[CaverD3]

Bluefin like others have a system to stop you using it on multiple vehicles. You would otherwise be a dealer of their maps.
You plug it in the the vehicle, it reads the VIN/ECU no. from the ECU and the original map.
You then go on line and they give you a file containing the new map allowing you to download it to the ECU. It stores the old map so you can remove and replace it anytime.

[trobbo]

so does that mean if your vehicle is written off and you go and buy another one, or for some reason your ecu is changed, the remap unit becomes useless?

[CaverD3]

It would but I am sure if you provided proof of write off they would re-load the map for you. They will do the same if dealer overwrites it.

[Starchy993]

Hi guys, I have been reading about the various performance upgrades on offer for my 2005 D3 TDV6.

Can anyone shine a light on the benefits of a Steinbauer unit (if any) compared to the various remapping options such as BAS, Bluefin etc?

The Steinbauer seems very expensive by comparion to remapping options without any obvious benefits.

[Owl]

Elastic band throttle is gone :D

Cheers Pete
Almost worth doing it for this reason alone!
Ian

[CaverD3]

Remaps are concidered a better way to go. Piggy backs are more like a sledgehammer. You can get different tunes and some can read faults.

[Platypus]

I am a newbie and am in the market for new D4. Many questions about 2.7 or 3.0D but in this post I would like to ask those with BlueFin their experience in both performance and economy after remap of TD2.7. I already own a Bluefin currently programmed to my Audi and can give testament to both power and economy on this car and my previos VW 2.0TDI on which it has been used.

[Disco4SE]

I am a newbie and am in the market for new D4. Many questions about 2.7 or 3.0D but in this post I would like to ask those with BlueFin their experience in both performance and economy after remap of TD2.7. I already own a Bluefin currently programmed to my Audi and can give testament to both power and economy on this car and my previos VW 2.0TDI on which it has been used.
A chipped or re-mapped 2.7Lt is still no match for the 3.0Lt............if thats any help? I have had both.
Cheers, Craig

[101RRS]

A chipped or re-mapped 2.7Lt is still no match for the 3.0Lt............if thats any help? I have had both.
Cheers, Craig

The BAS system brings power of the 2.7 up to close top the 3.0 but torque is still way less.

Garry

[disco_driver]

Pete recommends you put the original file back on the disco before any trips to the stealers.

Cost was 519 GB pounds delivered to Australia via UPS.

Thats a forum discounted price. Usually 645 GBP


So is this from bellauto? Do you say you're a member of aulro for the discount? Do you have to ask for a particular tune? And would the tunes be extra?

[~Rich~]

You have to register at the Disco3.co.uk site first to get the discount.

DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - BAS Remap Interface Forum Discount Offer (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic29035.html?highlight=BAS)

You get one tune included, e.g.either towing, performance, balanced.
Just let him know what you want.
You buy the unit, he posts it to you.
Once you have the unit you plug it into your D3 and upload the existing flash file which you email to him. He then "Tunes" you existing file and emails it back to you. Then you simple upload whichever tune you want on the D3 with the unit.

[disco_driver]

Then you simple upload whichever tune you want on the D3 with the unit.

Thanks Rich,

So can you get more than 1 tune and if so how much does he charge for these? I would probably like one that would give me good economy and one that would be good for towing my camper trailer.

[101RRS]

I contacted BAS a few weeks back and the actual map was 150pounds.

Garry

[~Rich~]

Explain to him what exactly you want and he will do his best. :)
That's what I did.
I got great performance and with blanked EGR valves (Pre mid 07 D3's) and a clean MAP sensor even better performance and fuel economy.

[disco_driver]

I got great performance and with blanked EGR valves (Pre mid 07 D3's) and a clean MAP sensor even better performance and fuel economy.

I did read something about these somewhere. Are they a do it yourself thing? Might need to find out a bit more about them but any chance you can summarise the benefit?

[roverfan]

Just read this thread and have some questions, does anyone actually tune these engines in Australia, or is it just generic maps in a one size fits all approach?

Is there an option to create your own maps?

And as I'm deciding between the 8 and td is it the same situation as far as tuning options?

[jh972]

Does anyone know the origin of the remap that Davis Performance Landys does?

[Tombie]

Does anyone know the origin of the remap that Davis Performance Landys does?

Autologic

[~Rich~]

Ayers Automotive at Brookvale also do the Autologic remaps.

Distance is no barrier for creating tuned remaps, it's as easy as sending and receiving an email.

Only if you really know what you are doing would you experiment with creating your own tunes.

[~Rich~]

I did read something about these somewhere. Are they a do it yourself thing? Might need to find out a bit more about them but any chance you can summarise the benefit?

In regard to the EGR blanking ( Exhaust Gas Recirculation) The EGR valves tends to contribute to the overall build up of gunk through out the intake and exhaust system. Many have had issues with EGR valves seizing and staying open resulting in a loss of power under acceleration.
Heaps of topics on this:
This is just one.
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Disco3 loss of power (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic70268.html)

These are the plates:
eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/150662874464'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
With these fitted your engine remains looking standard.

Or from BAS:
http://bellautoservices.co.uk/products/landrover-egr-blanking-kits/tdv6-egr-blanking-kit/ (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/150662874464'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
With these you actually remove some pipework either side of the engine.


Here is info on MAP sensor: ( I cleaned mine with electrical contact cleaner, be careful NOT to poke anything down the hole) People have different results depending on the amount of gunk deposited on the sensor. What I noticed was how my fuel economy improved. Others got better performance.

DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Go and clean you MAP Sensor NOW!!! (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic64159-15.html?)

[roverfan]

So is there software available to tune either the 8 or the td6?

Personally I would not put a generic tune in any car, but if that was the only option I'd be playing on the dyno to test it properly.

[Kevin Whitehead]

I did some homework on the tunes for a TDV8 / TCV6 purchase (got the TDV8) anf Superchip do a re-flash for both. The before/ after on the V8 is phenomenal.
Look them up on the web.
http://www.superchips.co.uk/search'make=17&fueltype=2&model=75&variant=1714

The results look ok and there are people in Aus who do them for around $700ish

[Stuart02]

Anyone care to guess at the relative merits of the bluefin v. autologic remaps? Similar performance gains,easily removed and re-installable v. presumably more bespoke?

[CaverD3]

I don't think autologic is any more bespoke.

[Stuart02]

I don't think autologic is any more bespoke.

So really, Bluefin/Superchip would have to be the way to go for the D4...

[Disco4SE]

My preference for my 3.0Lt is the 'Chipit'. Mainly because of the EGT overload protection.
Having said this, I am happy with the power & torque. May be something I add later for something to do.

Cheers, Craig

[Tombie]

Anyone care to guess at the relative merits of the bluefin v. autologic remaps? Similar performance gains,easily removed and re-installable v. presumably more bespoke?

Autologic is a fixed tune... Its written on and is the same for every vehicle of that version..

BlueFin (And BAS style units) will be the same, but with an ability to tweak them if there are issues or special requirements...

Therefore: BF / BAS are more Bespoke / customised AND can be removed to visit a dealer...

[CaverD3]

The only way to map a 3.0L D4 is to bench map the chip.

The Bluefin will work with the D42.7L but BAS won't.
The D3 2.7L BAS one is a fault code reader as well.

I am happy with my Bluefin though.:D

[Tombie]

And to be quite frank (when am I not :twisted: )...

WHY, but WHY, would one really need to chip a SDV6 ?

I'm even sitting back, leaving the 2.7 alone (and for me to do that is something!!!)

I guess I'm just getting old :angel:

[Tombie]

The only way to map a 3.0L D4 is to bench map the chip.

The Bluefin will work with the D42.7L but BAS won't.
The D3 2.7L BAS one is a fault code reader as well.

I am happy with my Bluefin though.:D

Sorry, you are correct - I forgot to add that point about BAS and current D4 models wont talk...

However, the BlueFin is a similar concept - so can be tuned and tweaked as necessary...

[Disco4SE]

And to be quite frank (when am I not :twisted: )...

WHY, but WHY, would one really need to chip a SDV6 ? :angel:
You are right Tombie, I don't think the 3.0Lt needs the extra power & torque, however it may be something I do when I need to spend more money.
BTW: The Chipit module can be removed in around 10 minutes I am told, for those times when you have to take it to the dealer.

Cheers, Craig

[Stuart02]

And to be quite frank (when am I not :twisted: )...

WHY, but WHY, would one really need to chip a SDV6 ?

I'm even sitting back, leaving the 2.7 alone (and for me to do that is something!!!)

I guess I'm just getting old :angel:

Lol, never! I think the power to weight ratio of the 2.7 D3/4 would be similar to the D2 TD5? Much better torque and flexibility, and extra gears, but I still like the idea of better economy and less lag off the line if possible...

[Stuart02]

Thanks guys, good thoughts and input!

[Tombie]

Lol, never! I think the power to weight ratio of the 2.7 D3/4 would be similar to the D2 TD5? Much better torque and flexibility, and extra gears, but I still like the idea of better economy and less lag off the line if possible...

Well my VNT, Intercooled, Big Piped, Tuned to the max... TD5 Auto struggles to come close to the 2.7 TDV6 in my D4...

And towing - No contest - D4 all the way...

[Stuart02]

Well my VNT, Intercooled, Big Piped, Tuned to the max... TD5 Auto struggles to come close to the 2.7 TDV6 in my D4...

And towing - No contest - D4 all the way...

I think we're agreeing - the D4 2.7 punches well above its stats, it's just the lag thing, and if more torque is safely available, it's always welcome!
I'm a convert after remapping my TD5...

[wyperfield]

Recently fitted a "Chip Express" from the UK to my D3 2.7.
There are many others, but I have set myself a budget of $700.
It gives noticeable more power from take-off up to about 3,000 rpm.
Fuel economy is better and it is down under 10 litres/l100 around town,
Its never going to pay for itself, but its nice to have the extra power and range.
Cheers,
Wyperfield

[Tombie]

Recently fitted a "Chip Express" from the UK to my D3 2.7.
There are many others, but I have set myself a budget of $700.
It gives noticeable more power from take-off up to about 3,000 rpm.
Fuel economy is better and it is down under 10 litres/l100 around town,
Its never going to pay for itself, but its nice to have the extra power and range.
Cheers,
Wyperfield

To clarify:

The above is an "interceptor"
Chip It is an "interceptor"

BlueFin is a re-map

Remaps are a better idea. More scope for tweaking and accuracy.


"Where the Desert meets the Sea"
'Did I mention some great 4WDriving is just 5 minutes from home?'

[APTUNING]

Hi all, just another option for you to consider, we are able to edit the actual program on the ECU. We have all the anti tune software. Any questions let me know. So no tuning box, no factory file. Benefits all well discussed previously.

Cheers

[Stuart02]

Hi all, just another option for you to consider, we are able to edit the actual program on the ECU. We have all the anti tune software. Any questions let me know. So no tuning box, no factory file. Benefits all well discussed previously.

Cheers

No mention of D4 on your website; and are the file edits dealer-detectable?

[Stuart02]

I've just posted a bluefin D4 2.7 TDV6 group buy proposal in the markets... Jump in if you're keen!

[TerryO]

Before you buy one Stuart talk to Redback.

cheers,
Terry

[Slunnie]

I did some homework on the tunes for a TDV8 / TCV6 purchase (got the TDV8) anf Superchip do a re-flash for both. The before/ after on the V8 is phenomenal.
Look them up on the web.
http://www.superchips.co.uk/search'make=17&fueltype=2&model=75&variant=1714

The results look ok and there are people in Aus who do them for around $700ish

:eek:

Over 230kw and 800Nm!

What gearbox is behind the TDV8?

[Prokiwi]

I have just done a superchips reflash to my 2012 rrs 3.0L diesel.
Results are enormous and well worth the spend. I have lots of experience with chipping , remaps and dp chip boxes etc ....the superchip remap seems to have shown considerably better results, and a very smooth vehicle ....no smoke and power off the line and all the way throught o 160kmh before it seems to stop pulling ....

go for it !!

[PeterOZ]

wow what a thread, just read the lot and some associated UK threads as well.

Seems that the MAP sensor clean and getting EGR valves checked is well worth it.

My 2007 D3 2.7TDV6 is off to the stealer tomorrow for 6 year service, last one under the lease and have requested they check both MAP sensor and EGR valves as performance is pooh and fuel economy bad at present.

I am then very much leaning to a bluefin re-map. Love the sound of that improvement.

anyone know where you can buy that 10k boost spray stuff here in oz?

[101RRS]

I am then very much leaning to a bluefin re-map. Love the sound of that improvement.

Don't cross the Bell Auto Services (BAS) map off your list - it is very popular on the UK Disco 3 site and it is programmed specifically for your need, it is not a one map fits all approach that most do.

Garry

[PeterOZ]

we I'mn not ready to purchase anything yet, looking at options. Trouble is I really don't know what I need except, more power, more torque, hopefully get rid of the sluggishness off the mark / turbo lag and improve fuel economy without risking the engine!

Not much to risk for!

[101RRS]

we I'mn not ready to purchase anything yet, looking at options. Trouble is I really don't know what I need except, more power, more torque, hopefully get rid of the sluggishness off the mark / turbo lag and improve fuel economy without risking the engine!

Not much to risk for!


While power and torque are linked - to over simplify the issue, power determines top speed and torque determines acceleration and pulling power - so what you perceive as power is really torque - so when mapping for a road car you really need the map to concentrate on increasing torque - normally about 20kph around your normal overtaking speed.

As far as the sluggishness/turbo lag is concerned - try driving in command shift and see if you have the same issue - with my car it is virtually gone indicating to me it is gearbox programming rather than engine management. Reports have getting your gearbox software updated can make things better.

Improved fuel economy - you are a hard task master - you are pulling around 2.6 tonnes I am getting around 10.5l/100km and about 8 on the highway and 12 pulling a camper - and you want more ;). Well most people report increased fuel consumption because they use the increased performance - it is only those who drive as they did before who do better but then that defeats the purpose of the map in the first place.

garry

[PeterOZ]

thanks bloke

[Stuart02]

Why, why not! :)

[AndrewM]

Who does the Autologic or the BAS remaps in Perth?

[~Rich~]

Autologic is usually done by a LR specialist and not by a dealer!

BAS Remaps are available worldwide!
Purchase one from Pete Bell here:
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - BAS Remap Interface Forum Discount Offer (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic29035.html)

[gghaggis]

Who does the Autologic or the BAS remaps in Perth?

Remaps can be done at Franzone Motors - I believe they use AutoLogic

Cheers,

Gordon

[PeterOZ]

I have a bluefin Supchips remap. Very happy with it. Plug in to upload new map and can be put back to original anytime.:)


Mate I am considering this option. How is it working for you? Mine is a MY08 D3 2.7 TDV6

cheers
Peter

[CaverD3]

Still happy with the Bluefin.
I went Bluefin because it was a lot cheaper (direct from UK) than the BAS one.
The advantage of BAS though is it is a fault code reader as well.
Interesting you can get a Bluefin for the 3.0L SDV6 but it needs the ECU to be enabled to take the bluefin device. This has to be done by their nearest tech who is from NZ. :angel: But he regularly comes to OZ to service and program. :thumbsup:

[DoctorJ]

G'day guys after loading up with a heap of accessories and bigger tyres my fuel economy and performance have gone to the sheisenhausen, I would prefer to go down the BAS remaps however rather than getting a response of "she pulls a hell of a lot better" what are the actual real life examples, before and after. Particularly fuel economy as mine has gone to 17.1ltrs/100kms around town :BigCry:

Cheers
Julian

[101RRS]

Without dyno testing I am not able to give before and afters - however after my BAS remap I have not noticed any noticeable change in fuel consumption (and I record every drop of fuel that goes into my car). Logically you should not notice any real difference as you will use the extra power available - in theory if you were to drive the same as you did before the remap, fuel consumption should improve marginally as the engine is now arguably more efficient.

What I did do though, was a series of 0-100kph tests with the map in and out - the time decreased just under 2 secs in acceleration so there is substantial improvement (14s to 12s - foot off the accelerator at the start) - and Drive is now Quicker than Sport mode in straight acceleration from a standing start - though Sport feels better in the gears when on the road.

Edit - I normally get about 11l/100km around town but can get as low as 8.5 or as high as 13 depending on how I am driving.

Garry

[Runnadude]

I have the one from Davis Performance. The difference is astonishing. I would also say almost 2 seconds faster to the 100k. The fuel economy has not changed at all. I'm still getting between 9 and 10 l/100km (I do 90% highway driving). I get an airbag fault showing, and the occasional suspension fault too, but I did install the LLAMS kit at the same time, so I don't know which one causes the faults.

[gazm3]

hey there.

Ive had the BAS one in for 2 yrs now. Car still runs economically, and for a 2.7 tonne bohemith and does accelerate nicely especially if you jump on the throttle after about 1500rpm.

I have roof racks so economy may be worse than others but around town doing short woman style trips she gets 12l/100km, longer urban trips she dips into the 11's. In the country it hovers in the low 9's. I done a trip to sydney in it towing a race car at 110+ km/h she returned mid 11's.

I keep the map sensor clean with alcohol spray every 6mths or so to keep throttle responce up and smoke to a minimum