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Lyonbyrd
2nd February 2011, 05:10 PM
It was working now it ain't, had to take the centre console out to do bias plate adjustment. Putting it back in & the handbrake lever won't grap, it will lift but won't grab. Is there another way I should have put it back together, already done so several times but can't exactly remember what it looks like when working properly..

Narangga
2nd February 2011, 06:17 PM
Other than the clip and clevis pin there's not much else.

Not sure where you would find a picture. There is not one on the RAVE CD that I could find.

Cosmic Tourist
2nd February 2011, 07:02 PM
It was working now it ain't, had to take the centre console out to do bias plate adjustment. Putting it back in & the handbrake lever won't grap, it will lift but won't grab. Is there another way I should have put it back together, already done so several times but can't exactly remember what it looks like when working properly..

When I did mine I found that there was a claw mechanism attached to the handbrake lever itself that locks onto a toothed base fixed to the base of the console. Pressing the handbrake button pushes a rod that attaches to the lever-like claw mechanism. Mine had flipped over backwards, reversing over the lever fulcrum. To re-engage it I simply pushed the claw mechanism forward until it engaged the toothed base, although I have found it doesnt work as well as it used to.

tailslide
2nd February 2011, 10:01 PM
Whats with these handbrakes?

I have just installed an Ashcroft CDL and when everything was put back the handbrake detent is sticking (binding) inside the handle. Last night I couldn't see what was causing this...

Am waiting for the weekend to tackle this in the daylight. What is involved in removing the lever from the vehicle? You can't remove the hinge pin as it is a swaged rivet. I could see one bolt head at the rear, probably another hidden at the front.

Ron

twodoors
2nd February 2011, 10:30 PM
Whats with these handbrakes?

I have just installed an Ashcroft CDL and when everything was put back the handbrake detent is sticking (binding) inside the handle. Last night I couldn't see what was causing this...

Am waiting for the weekend to tackle this in the daylight. What is involved in removing the lever from the vehicle? You can't remove the hinge pin as it is a swaged rivet. I could see one bolt head at the rear, probably another hidden at the front.

Ron


DONT WORRY.... This appears to be a common thing. I have had the same issue every (4) times I have had to remove the centre consol. As stated there is the lever thingy which can flip over also the button can get stuck and bent out of line, also the cheeks of the lever can some how change shape and catch on the ratchet arm.... Best thing is to try and avoid getting the handbrake going into the vertical position and fight the consol into position at the dash end..

Just take your time and if I remember you cant just disconnect the lever...

Reshape the cheeks, button lever connection with a large flat blade screwdriver..

James

jiri_j
3rd February 2011, 08:13 AM
Had the same problem. In my case the lever was slightly bent towards the driver. Bent it back by a half cm and worked fine again. Seems to me that if all the mechanism is not in a perfect straight line, you get this kind of problems. J

strangy
3rd February 2011, 08:31 AM
Had this problem with the sons D2. The ratchet cam flipped over and then the problem compounded with sticky mechanism. The excessive application of force and limited application of patience was the cause of the sticky mech.;)
cheers

tailslide
3rd February 2011, 09:49 PM
Had this problem with the sons D2. The ratchet cam flipped over and then the problem compounded with sticky mechanism. The excessive application of force and limited application of patience was the cause of the sticky mech.;)
cheers

Yes, I did extend the lever to verticle and the cam flipped over, but I spotted that before reassembly of the console. The "excessive application of force" was more applicable to the installation of the new CDL actuator and trying to rivet the steel plate back into position. Had to call for help from my dad, a long suffering S11a owner, now sold;). At least the handbrake lever was reliable in those, just not effective due to oil in the drum:o.

Will look at it again on the weekend. I trust Lyonbyrd will get theirs sorted as well.

Ron

Lyonbyrd
4th February 2011, 07:41 PM
cheers for the advice guys... might try bending the rod between the ratchet & button although I didn't bend it in the first place, simply lifted the lever up high to get the centre console back in. Got her booked in for a service with a land rover mechanic, sad to say I've had enough stuffing around with this car & can see lots of $$ down the track... sticking with my ford transit van & selling the D2 rip..

LandyAndy
4th February 2011, 09:23 PM
Ive had issues with mine in the past.
Was an EASY fix,the rubber grip binds on the release button.
Wriggle it around and seat the rubber correctly and see if its your problem too;););););)
Andrew

Panya
5th February 2011, 04:50 AM
If I remember rightly you need to take out the clevis pin again, extend the lever upwards then press button to get ratchet to flip or be moved to the right position, then bring it down into position whilst still holding the button in. It was a while ago now...!

tailslide
7th February 2011, 12:02 AM
Hi all,

Just an update on what the problem was.

As previously mentioned, the cam flips over when you extend the handbrake lever to the verticle. If you don't detect this and correct it before lowering the lever then the wire actuating rod gets bent as the cam is forced over the ratchet the wrong way...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1128.jpg

This bend causes the rod at the end of the lever to become offset and causes the release button to bind.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1129.jpg

Now by using a pair of long nosed pliers, the rod can be pulled forward to reverse the bend.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1130.jpg

With the final result like this:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1131.jpg

With the rod now centred again it all worked as before. The button glides easily again and the "Park brake" was back in operation.:D:D:D:D

I hope this helps some one else down the track.

Ron

Gullible
30th January 2013, 06:58 PM
I've just done the same thing :(

How do you get all the trim off the hand brake to get the button out and see where the rod is?

For mine there was no excessive force and I only noticed a problem when could not connect the handbrake cable as the rod was in the way.

CCS
10th February 2013, 10:17 AM
Ive just had the same problem.

Rschipp's pics and instructions were spot on. I couldnt fix it until i had taken the button off the end to ensure the rod was centred.

Thanks :)

Gullible
10th February 2013, 10:38 AM
I was surprised by how easy it was to bend the rod.

weareclassiccars
19th February 2014, 07:47 PM
Great help with the pics above. Lifted my handbrake vertical whilst removing the console and after realising the bar had flipped over and putting that right the handbrake would not latch.

Pulled off the trim, removed button and sure enough bar not centered. Quick push to middle with pliers and works like a dream.

Thx for the help.

JC adventure
15th July 2023, 07:10 AM
I know this is an old post but any chance of reposting the pictures of the hand brake fix as the original ones are gone and I still cannot figure how to fix mine with the same problem.
cheers
jeff

Just an update on what the problem was.

As previously mentioned, the cam flips over when you extend the handbrake lever to the verticle. If you don't detect this and correct it before lowering the lever then the wire actuating rod gets bent as the cam is forced over the ratchet the wrong way...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1128.jpg

This bend causes the rod at the end of the lever to become offset and causes the release button to bind.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1129.jpg

Now by using a pair of long nosed pliers, the rod can be pulled forward to reverse the bend.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1130.jpg

With the final result like this:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1131.jpg

With the rod now centred again it all worked as before. The button glides easily again and the "Park brake" was back in operation.:D:D:D:D

I hope this helps some one else down the track.

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