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easo
5th February 2011, 08:37 AM
G'day all, over on the MVCA we are trying get capture all the Leopard Tanks going to RSLs. Miltary Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated • View forum - Leopard (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewforum.php?f=249)

I'm asking for help gathering imagery so please if you live in one of these places there could be one on a slab near you.


So far, 24 RSL Clubs are confirmed to receive a tank are:

Beenleigh RSL,

Bendigo RSL,

Bribie Island RSL,

Bunbury RSL,

Canberra Services Club,

Collie Cardiff RSL,

Echuca and Moama RSL, Echunga RSL,

Epping RSL,

Esperance RSL and Esperance Museum,

Forester-Tuncurry RSL,

Ingleburn RSL,

Jerilderie RSL,

Kilcoy RSL,

McLaren Vale RSL,

Mount Gambier Community RSL,

City of Palmerston RSL,

Port Kennedy RSL,

Port Augusta RSL,

Rutherglen RSL,

Seymour RSL,

Upwey - Belgrave RSL,

Woodford RSL,

Yarrawonga-Mulwala RSL.

Most have been delivered. I ask that the photos contain a veiw from all 4 corners and 1 shot of the ARN it should start with either 277** or 293**.

Here is what we currently have,

Jeilderie NSW 27747
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1208.jpg

Woodford QLD 29388
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1209.jpg

Seymour VIC 27739
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1210.jpg

Ingleburn 27775
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1211.jpg

Bendigo VIC ARN unknown, need help on this one.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1212.jpg

Mclaren Vale SA ARN Unknown, need help I belive the ARN is 27754 if so this is an important tank.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1213.jpg

Regards Easo

digger
5th February 2011, 11:05 AM
Mclaren Vale SA ARN Unknown, need help I belive the ARN is 27754 if so this is an important tank.

Regards Easo

do tell, what has 27754 done?
cheers
(will see if I can arrange any of the local ones)

The ho har's
5th February 2011, 11:20 AM
Right Beenleigh...I am on a mission:D

Mrs hh:angel:

85 county
5th February 2011, 01:59 PM
where the hell would you locate the ARN on a Tank?? behind the left rear wheel??

The ho har's
5th February 2011, 02:18 PM
where the hell would you locate the ARN on a Tank?? behind the left rear wheel??


Look at Woodford 29388..you can clearly see it under left front next to track;)

Mrs hh:angel:

The ho har's
5th February 2011, 02:20 PM
Right Beenleigh...I am on a mission:D

Mrs hh:angel:


Been to see it and take a picky but someone has stolen it:(;):p

The cement slab is there will check again next week:D

If you like I will post on MVCA page as well when I find it;)

Mrs hh:angel:

isuzutoo-eh
5th February 2011, 03:44 PM
Is the Epping one Epping Sydney or Epping Melbourne? Can't think where'd they put one near the Sydney Epping RSL, not to mention its almost a night club at times. I'll keep watch anyway since i'm there too many times per week.

easo
5th February 2011, 08:16 PM
do tell, what has 27754 done?
cheers
(will see if I can arrange any of the local ones)


Is the Epping one Epping Sydney or Epping Melbourne? Can't think where'd they put one near the Sydney Epping RSL, not to mention its almost a night club at times. I'll keep watch anyway since i'm there too many times per week.

I'll find out which one it will be. Feel free to post directly to MVCA or post them here and I'll transfer them.

Thanks Easo

easo
5th February 2011, 08:22 PM
do tell, what has 27754 done?
cheers
(will see if I can arrange any of the local ones)

27754 was the roll over Tank that killed TPR A.K. Paterson

Regards Easo

Xul
5th February 2011, 10:43 PM
I'll be going past McLaren Vale tomorrow, I'll check the ARN if possible and snap a few piccies as well.

twodoors
6th February 2011, 05:49 AM
Checked the crime reports tonight and no one has filed 'ours' as missing...so i guess it hasnt been delivered yet!... will post when it turns up.
James

Hymie
6th February 2011, 12:56 PM
27754 was the roll over Tank that killed TPR A.K. Paterson

Regards Easo

Was that the one that rolled out near Rowells Hill in the quarry?

easo
6th February 2011, 03:23 PM
Was that the one that rolled out near Rowells Hill in the quarry?

Gee, now your testing my tankie history... TPR Patersons roll occurred allong a creek line during night activity's in the rain. The creek gave way and the Tank went over. TPR Paterson head as caught between 40-odd ton of tank and the creek bed. The creek was rising and every attempt to get TPR Paterson to breath through a MG3 barrel failed.

There are some good ghost stories involving this tank too. I know you wanna here them.

Easo

Hymie
6th February 2011, 04:06 PM
I remember one flipping end over bending the gun barrel, quite an achievement. From memory the C/Cdr was killed.

Xul
6th February 2011, 06:44 PM
McLaren Vale, SA is 27756.

I wonder where 27754 has ended up?

*edit*

By the way mate if you need higher res photo's let me know and I'll email them to you.

C.tins
6th February 2011, 06:54 PM
bloody tankies... No Grunts no go..lol

slug_burner
6th February 2011, 07:02 PM
A few from Seymour I took today

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1157.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1158.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1159.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1160.jpg

PhillH
6th February 2011, 07:24 PM
I did a drive past Bribie RSL this arvo and it doesn't appear that their tank has been delivered yet.

Phill

easo
6th February 2011, 08:32 PM
A few from Seymour I took today



Should have dropped us a line and came over to Pucka.

The following are the names of tankies killed in roll overs. SGT Murray was rolled near Pipe Corner if you remember the location Hymie.

LT MASSEY J K ?
SGT MURRAY R G 27733
TPR JORDAN AM ?
TPR PATERSON A K 27754

Only one Leopard roll over was not fatal and that was 29391, due to the weight of a Tank, when they go over its very sudden and there is little time to react.

This is 29391 on it roof,
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1156.jpg

Regards Easo

easo
6th February 2011, 08:39 PM
McLaren Vale, SA is 27756.

I wonder where 27754 has ended up?

*edit*

By the way mate if you need higher res photo's let me know and I'll email them to you.

Cheers the quality is fine they have been added, Miltary Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated • View topic - Leopard 27756 McLarne Vale RSL (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=249&t=1931&p=8664#p8664)

Regards Easo

slug_burner
6th February 2011, 09:53 PM
A few from Seymour I took today




Should have dropped us a line and came over to Pucka.
Regards Easo

Maybe next time.

I'll see if I can get the Bendigo one before too long.

The Seymour one and the RSL are no where near each other, there is a Rotary sign in front of it though.

easo
6th February 2011, 09:59 PM
Maybe next time.

I'll see if I can get the Bendigo one before too long.

The Seymour one and the RSL are no where near each other, there is a Rotary sign in front of it though.

That will be pretty much the same for most Tanks. That park is called Rotary Park. Next time have a look at the concert the tank rests on. Its 2 different shades. this is because many years ago a Mitilda Tank use to sit in that spot but was removed for public safety. Recently it was cleaned up and increased in size for the new tank. I read in the local paper that a safety fence and viewing stand will be erected to enable the public to get close but remain safe.

Regards Easo

Phoenix
9th February 2011, 08:56 AM
Somebody said that there is / will bge one coming down to tassie.

101RRS
9th February 2011, 09:22 AM
I went past the Canberra Services club the other day - no tank in sight. The 40/60 is still out the front but no tank - not sure there is actually the room.

Garry

isuzutoo-eh
9th February 2011, 10:10 AM
The Epping RSL that gets a tank is the Victorian Epping RSL, they have already received it and are going to call me back with the ARN if the lady at the front desk can find it.

easo
9th February 2011, 12:25 PM
The ARN is located on the front right glasis plate.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/961.jpg

Unfortunately the ones being painted in Darwin will not be getting their ARN painted on as it "not in our contract".

Easo

Lotz-A-Landies
9th February 2011, 02:15 PM
<snip> Unfortunately the ones being painted in Darwin will not be getting their ARN painted on as it "not in our contract".

EasoSoooo typical. :mad:

Perhaps some grafitti artist with a set of number stencils can get at them before they go out! :wasntme:

easo
9th February 2011, 09:47 PM
Soooo typical. :mad:

Perhaps some grafitti artist with a set of number stencils can get at them before they go out! :wasntme:

There are 4 tanks coming from Darwin, 27744 is in Palmerston, awaiting photos. The other 3 are off to WA.

If the ARN is not on the front right, then it can be found on the rear under the spare track links. If there is no ARN clearly painted on the Tank then the only other places to find it is inside. In the drivers seat on the right side is a MOD plate, where one will be. The other is in the turret on the loaders side above 3 red switches.

Sadly the delivery SOP is the tank will arrive with gun at 6. It will be craned directly into position and the gun will be hand cranked to the 12 position. Where it will be locked, the elevation is locked by an internal gun crutch. After that the hatches will be welded shut.

The last place is the hull number. located under and to the right the front right bollard/ towing eye just above the welding in the hull. However its under alot of paint and will derogate the tank.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/1010.jpg

Regards Easo

nealo
10th February 2011, 01:21 AM
I've heard a rumour that our in Esperance is coming ex Darwin.

I've been involved in organizing the concrete pad, so when it arrives I'll get some good close up pics

isuzutoo-eh
10th February 2011, 01:52 PM
Epping RSL Victoria's Leopard is 27 762 and it does have it painted on the hull. It also has '44' painted on the glacis plate.
Thanks to the kind front-desk lady :)

easo
10th February 2011, 07:38 PM
Cheers isuzutoo-eh and the kind front-desk lady. The 44 is the bridge class of the tank much the same as the yellow disk on some of your lands out there. In tank world, on the Armoured Vehicle Launched Bridge (AVLB ) the bridge layer.

The bridge classes are use to calculate the daily tonnage that has traveled across the bridge sections. They are simple added as each vehicle crosses and recorded in the vehicle's drivers log book. The Leopard AVLB can cross 2000t daily over 50,000t for its life. Then at certain tonnage intervals servicing is carried out.

Sorry a bit off track there, Easo

easo
10th February 2011, 07:41 PM
I've heard a rumour that our in Esperance is coming ex Darwin.

I've been involved in organizing the concrete pad, so when it arrives I'll get some good close up pics

If your there when it arrives and there is no ARN externally beg to get in and look in the above mentioned places.

Thanks for the help, Easo

korg20000bc
10th February 2011, 08:02 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/961.jpg

I have a technical question. Those "x"-shaped parts on the front glacis are they supplemental armour for defeating shaped charges, spacing for addition armour or something else?

The ho har's
10th February 2011, 08:10 PM
Day off tomorrow...well every friday..Saturay and Sunday is a day off as you know, easo;)


Off to Beenleigh and check:) oh and where the tank will be I should get a nice shot of 'zara' beside it so everyone can compare how big these things are:D

Mrs hh:angel:

easo
10th February 2011, 10:21 PM
I have a technical question. Those "x"-shaped parts on the front glacis are they supplemental armour for defeating shaped charges, spacing for addition armour or something else?

There track grousers, they are fitted every 7-8 link and provide additional traction in snow and ice conditions.

Contrary to popular belief the rubber pads in the track are a permanent fitment. I have had this argument before where I have been told that the pads are only for peace time so not to destroy roads. However they they are are part of all modern track design and are there for long life of tracks. Look at a centurion tank coming off the end of WW2 steel track and pin, "dead track" , now rubber pads and rubber bushes around the pins that cause a natural bent in the links. This gives the tank longer lasting tracks, less maintainability, pads can be replaced when worn, the live track is easier to tension, noise and vibration is dispersed better. Have a look at any modern tank in a war theater Iraq or Afghanistan they still have rubber pads.

Rant over, they are grousers, fitted every 7-8 link on apposing sides, only one per link, 84 link in a track, rarely ever used.

Regards Easo

korg20000bc
10th February 2011, 10:51 PM
Hey, thanks for that!

malleefowl
11th February 2011, 09:09 PM
Hi Daniel ,
My brother from Pyramid Hill frequently eats at bendigo RSL .Will get him to check when next there,
Cheers,
Mary

The ho har's
11th February 2011, 10:14 PM
Sorry tank ....AWAL...or...MIA...any way there was nice Red 110 Extreme there with a sticker Bris LRO club;)


Maybe next week...no I shall ring before I drive there;)...not that driving my S3 is a burden:D


Mrs hh:angel:

easo
13th February 2011, 08:51 AM
Found this on the Woodford tank last night.

YouTube - NewsBlog - Tank delivered to Woodford

Easo

malleefowl
15th February 2011, 05:06 PM
The tank at bendigo RSL They also have a Centurian.

The ho har's
15th February 2011, 06:30 PM
I have been informed by they powers that be at Beenleigh RSL 14th March, is delivery unless we get another cyclone:(

Apparently it was turned back twice at the border when the cyclone/floods were happening..

Mrs hh:angel:

ellard
17th February 2011, 12:36 PM
Hi there all

As requested - at Port Augusta:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/615.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/616.jpg

Enjoy

Wayne

Lotz-A-Landies
17th February 2011, 12:43 PM
<snip>
Apparently it was turned back twice at the border <snip>..

Mrs hh:angel:That damned Border Patrol mob, always interdicting weapons from Mexico!

Lucky it wasn't confiscated! :D

easo
17th February 2011, 12:48 PM
That is quite a nice setting, thanks Wayne.

Easo

The ho har's
17th February 2011, 06:28 PM
That is quite a nice setting, thanks Wayne.

Easo


It looks like it has taken over their BBQ area:o:D

Mrs hh:angel:

easo
17th February 2011, 08:16 PM
Every bloke and his dog needs a good bar to rest their beer on. lol

waltwr
20th February 2011, 08:21 PM
I found this one in Woodford (QLD), but the cherry on the cake is the guy, standing next to it!
He used to be the commander (or such... I was in airborn, what do i know of stuff like that...) of this same heap of metal! Back in 87, or around.
Waltwr

juddy
20th February 2011, 11:24 PM
So when can we buy one to display. deactivated gun of course but fully working, full night vision, ncb kit etc, warehouse full of spares, knock down prices, or am i in dream world uk, where i can buy anything i like even a type 22 Frigate.....:wasntme: Anal Oz rules............

The ho har's
20th February 2011, 11:52 PM
Having some issues are we juddy:(:o

cheer up old boy:p:D:wasntme:

Msr hh:angel:

slug_burner
21st February 2011, 01:03 AM
So when can we buy one to display. deactivated gun of course but fully working, full night vision, ncb kit etc, warehouse full of spares, knock down prices, or am i in dream world uk, where i can buy anything i like even a type 22 Frigate.....:wasntme: Anal Oz rules............

asbestos

easo
23rd February 2011, 06:07 PM
Received these today of 27744 in Palmerston NT, Thank you Mr Jared Archibald.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/188.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/189.jpg

This is the block of steel welded into the track to prevent anyone from moving the tank.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/190.jpg

Cheers Easo

Lotz-A-Landies
23rd February 2011, 06:20 PM
Easo

I think someone needs to change those road wheels! :p

Diana

aew849
23rd February 2011, 06:37 PM
Believe there is also one as gate guard at Robbo Barracks, Darwin.



aew849

easo
23rd February 2011, 07:31 PM
Believe there is also one as gate guard at Robbo Barracks, Darwin.



aew849

Yep, I have that one 27742 I think,
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/03/393.jpg

1st Armoured Regiment has one too 27777,
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/187.jpg

These tanks however are not apart of the RSL gift. That's why they are not painted. That will most likely go for any other Leopards that get posted as holding ground on any other base. There is rumor and only rumor that the RAAC Association or the 1st Armoured Regiment Association will be given custodianship of a running example.

Regards Easo

zulu Delta 534
25th February 2011, 08:56 AM
Dan, clean the fingermarks off your camera lens!!!
Regards
Glen

easo
27th February 2011, 07:41 AM
Easo

I think someone needs to change those road wheels! :p

Diana

For the display yes, but if it was operational then you can loose up to 40% rubber before its time for replacement.

Easo

PhillH
27th February 2011, 08:37 PM
Easo,

I had a chat to the lovely lady on the desk at Bribie RSL last night and their tank is still in the NT. She was not aware of the number they were getting and we both wondered how they intended to get it over the bridge to Bribie. It is fairly narrow and doesn't look like it would stand up to the extra load.

Phill

easo
28th February 2011, 06:31 AM
we both wondered how they intended to get it over the bridge to Bribie. It is fairly narrow and doesn't look like it would stand up to the extra load.

Phill

Does the bridge have a weight limit on it? I sure the disposal project team would have conducted recon before delivery. The Leopard is only a Medium Tank and in its deactivated state will only weight 40-42 ton with a width of 3.37m. They may have to close the bridge off to all other traffic while the float crosses.

Whats the biggest thing you ever seen cross it?

Easo

incisor
28th February 2011, 09:34 AM
Whats the biggest thing you ever seen cross it?
have seen a few big floats with big dozers on them over the years.

it should be fine, but they will have to close it while they take it across because of the width.

be an interesting watch when they do it tho...

gbest
14th March 2011, 04:31 PM
in the last edition of the qld rsl news summer 2011 highlights that upto 4 subbrances are to recieve leopard tanks one was beenleigh



kind regards greg best

easo
14th March 2011, 06:17 PM
Photos from Mr Bob Mosely

Miltary Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View topic - RSL Echunga S. Aust Leopard (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=249&t=1975)

Regards Easo

GREG EGRETZ
15th March 2011, 09:49 PM
Hi from Greg 150 just past a Leopard Tank heading North near Parks NSW as we heading down to Corowa

hodgo
17th March 2011, 06:23 PM
Hi from Greg 150 just past a Leopard Tank heading North near Parks NSW as we heading down to Corowa
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++

That was the one for Beenleigh RSL we received it this morning.

Hodgo

easo
21st March 2011, 05:01 PM
Yep, I have that one 27742 I think,
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/03/393.jpg


Regards Easo

Wrong, its 27732.

Easo

twodoors
30th March 2011, 05:20 PM
'OURS' arrived this morning..... 29395
Pictures to follow tomorrow

James

twodoors
2nd April 2011, 07:01 PM
Pics as promised...

James

twodoors
2nd April 2011, 07:06 PM
Ours had 20kg of cement poured into the engine block and the batteries removed then the hatch spot welded to prevent unauthorised use......

Lotz-A-Landies
2nd April 2011, 08:43 PM
Ours had 20kg of cement poured into the engine block and the batteries removed then the hatch spot welded to prevent unauthorised use......That seems to be the fate of all of the "gate guards".

What is more the DMO is rendering all the removed power-packs unusable as well. They bench run the engine on full throttle and while running they remove the sump plug and wait until the engine dismantles itself or fuses into a single lump of mixed metals. It then goes for scrap.

digger
2nd April 2011, 09:49 PM
Pics as promised...
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/remlr-general/34702d1301730825-leopard-tank-help-download-01-04-11-237.jpg

James

James, PLEASE tell me that the tank is sighted at the onvious TARGET nearby? :) thanks for the photos

twodoors
2nd April 2011, 10:38 PM
James, PLEASE tell me that the tank is sighted at the onvious TARGET nearby? :) thanks for the photos

No unfortunately not!... However she would put a round straight through the Red Cross building... BUT that would be okay because it would lead straight into the Council chambers..... which might not be such a bad thing :D

I am expecting a whole heap of humour... what with the army needing its targets identifying etc...

James

hodgo
3rd April 2011, 07:29 AM
Ours had 20kg of cement poured into the engine block and the batteries removed then the hatch spot welded to prevent unauthorised use......

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++

They were all done the same

twodoors
3rd April 2011, 06:10 PM
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++

They were all done the same

Seems a shame as a proper means of securing the hatch would allow authorised access on open days in exchange for a gold coin etc....

Plenty of people would like a look... know my boys would buy a season ticket!....

James

easo
3rd April 2011, 07:29 PM
Located in this site,

CENTURION-MBT.COM (http://www.centurion-mbt.com/)

Easo

Lotz-A-Landies
4th April 2011, 02:44 PM
Pics as promised...
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/remlr-general/34702d1301730825-leopard-tank-help-
JamesJames, PLEASE tell me that the tank is sighted at the onvious TARGET nearby? :) thanks for the photosUnfortunately there werent any gunners present when they laid the concrete pad! :BigCry:

It sure would have made it an attraction! :D

peter5111
3rd May 2011, 02:45 PM
27742 spotted at Beaconsfield RSL park today. No idea if it has been moved or incorrectly marked ?

LieutenantRover
3rd May 2011, 06:16 PM
Esperance has theirs in place as of a couple of weeks ago. Photos shortly

PhillH
14th August 2011, 10:57 AM
Hi Easo,

Not sure if you are still looking for photos and numbers but I went to Bribie RSL last night and their tank is there now.

Here are the photos.

Phill

easo
14th August 2011, 04:29 PM
Always after them, some Defence establishments will receive some too.
None are going to the scrap merchant as it is too much of a 'risk' they will be sold onto private ownership. They will either hold ground at a Defence establishment, be targeted, gifted/loaned to RSLs, or maintained in operational condition by Army History Units.

Cheers for the photos, if any one is around PT Kennedy, WA, their Tank is at the mercy of local vandals and I am most defiantly after detailed images of the destruction caused.

Regards Easo

easo
14th August 2011, 04:31 PM
Oh and for everyone's information I have started archiving these images at the Tank Museum.

Easo

korg20000bc
2nd January 2012, 09:56 PM
I was driving through Beaconsfield, TAS the other day and was surprised to see a Leopard at a park attached to the cenotaph. I got out to take some snaps and the RSL president happened to be driving past and pulled up and had a chat for about 10 mins.
Apparently, it is the only one in Tasmania- much to the ire of bigger RSL clubs in the south of the state and he was skiting that it is the only one that ever went over seas... Bass Strait, that it. Wocca wocca wocca.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/1292.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/1418.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/1419.jpg

There was a captured WWI German artillery piece in the park that I asked him about. He said that it cam from a place in Launceston. When he saw it he asked the owner what he was going to do with it. The guy said that he'd do the same as he did with his other ones- take it to the tip! Thankfully it was rescued and excellently restored by local crafts and tradesmen.
Didn't get a photo of it.

korg20000bc
2nd January 2012, 09:59 PM
Sorry,
I see a few posts above that it has already been reported...

MarknDeb
2nd January 2012, 10:34 PM
There is one on display in Beaconsfield, Tasmania, nnext time iam up that way ill try and get a pic for you

drifter
2nd January 2012, 10:54 PM
Easo

Are you still looking for pics? I saw you had Yarrawonga on your original list. If you haven't any pics of that one, I have a friend there who is handy with a camera and will most certainly provide pictures if you still want them.

easo
5th January 2012, 03:28 PM
G'day Drifter, I don't have Yarrawonga as yet, Thanks. Even additional Photos are great. Some RSLs have added markings and call signs since delivery.

The MVCA has been keeping some good records on them so far and each thread is a way of documenting their after service lives.

Military Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View forum - RSL Leopards (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewforum.php?f=477)

If anyone does have diffrent images to what we have already that show some progress of these vehicles please post them up at MVCA.

Regards Easo

easo
5th January 2012, 03:33 PM
There is one on display in Beaconsfield, Tasmania, nnext time iam up that way ill try and get a pic for you

I don't have that one either, Cheers

korg20000bc
5th January 2012, 05:11 PM
I don't have that one either, Cheers

That is the one I posted about 5 entries above and someone else posted about 4 above my post.

A very popular tank by all accounts ;)

Davehoos
5th January 2012, 06:21 PM
I was just reading through and remin

easo
5th January 2012, 07:58 PM
Hi Easo,

Not sure if you are still looking for photos and numbers but I went to Bribie RSL last night and their tank is there now.

Here are the photos.

Phill

Added it here,

Military Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View topic - Leopard 27731 Bribie Island RSL (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=477&t=1994&p=11751#p11751)

Easo

easo
5th January 2012, 08:06 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/1292.jpg


There was a captured WWI German artillery piece in the park that I asked him about. He said that it cam from a place in Launceston. When he saw it he asked the owner what he was going to do with it. The guy said that he'd do the same as he did with his other ones- take it to the tip! Thankfully it was rescued and excellently restored by local crafts and tradesmen.
Didn't get a photo of it.

Added. Military Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View topic - Leopard 27742 Beaconsfield TAS (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=477&t=2340)

I'd love to add images of that ww1 war trophy to another MVCA thread, Military Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View topic - Country Town War Trophies (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=330)

Regards Easo

Davehoos
7th January 2012, 03:48 PM
Apparently leading into WW2 we had more capture/trophy Maximum guns in the country than Vickers.
Military Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View topic - Country Town War Trophies (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=330)

local comunity has a maxim gun.as a kid I thought it was a wooden replica.there was others in other small towns.from memory it was one of hundreds.the deal was these must be destroyed if not on display.

recently it had to be sent away and preserved.its now on display with all documents and news cuttings of its presentation in acordance with some regulations recently being policed..the paper work shows 3 mens name from a unit and lists them as responcible for its public presentation.
It was captured in france in an area they operated in by their unit but its listed as having been turkish.

digger
7th January 2012, 06:40 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/1163.jpg

tank at Echunga is still there... luckily my daughter stopped it just before it ran the boys over!!

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/1164.jpg

<<<edit>>>
added photos
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/1165.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/1166.jpg
(sorry about my daughters finger in shot!)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/1167.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/1168.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/1169.jpg

Easo I will add these at MVCA also, sorry I should have done it that way before!

easo
7th January 2012, 07:24 PM
Military Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View topic - Country Town War Trophies (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=330)

local comunity has a maxim gun.as a kid I thought it was a wooden replica.there was others in other small towns.from memory it was one of hundreds.the deal was these must be destroyed if not on display.

recently it had to be sent away and preserved.its now on display with all documents and news cuttings of its presentation in acordance with some regulations recently being policed..the paper work shows 3 mens name from a unit and lists them as responcible for its public presentation.
It was captured in france in an area they operated in by their unit but its listed as having been turkish.

I'd love to see some photos of it, what council owns it? I can then ask for further info like the serial number. There is a bloke on the MVCA who is confirming the locations of the ww1 war trophies in comparison to a book by Bill Billit about the ww1 trophies. As over the years some have been sold, scraped moved, stolen or just lost.

Easo

easo
7th January 2012, 07:37 PM
Added digger, thanks.

Military Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View topic - Leopard 29386 Echunga RSL (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=477&t=1975&p=11776#p11776)

Cheers Easo

Davehoos
8th January 2012, 12:26 AM
I'd love to see some photos of it, what council owns it?
Easo

great lakes council.memorial hall.
presented at booral wharf.

they have stressed that they can now only be retained in preserved or they must be destroyed.

john was based at singleton military musseum and I saw him on TV as spokesman at the opening recently.he used to live in the area.im guessing he would have records as I would think he would be involved.

atilery piece at raymond terrace but it not ww1. 25lb ?
and the 2 big guns at stroud are muzzel loader with no historical importance other than they are at stroud.

not that many tanks around here.I only know of small pieces of a sherman that was cut up for saw mill hydrolics.after the engine died.
I was suprised when i drove to south australia 20yrs ago and saw a small pile of WW2 tanks at murray bridge for a LIONS CLUB scrap metal drive.

easo
8th January 2012, 08:54 AM
The Muzzle Loading guns history might go back to the Colonial Times? All/ Most of the Muzzle Loading guns across Victoria came from HMVS Nelson the flag ship of the Victorian Navy. She had about 120 ML Cannon on board ranging from 12 - 32 pdr and they have been given to towns like Longwood, Ballarat and Beachworth.

HMVS Nelson's Guns Slideshow. (http://www.cerberus.com.au/nelson_guns_slideshow.html)

Easo

Davehoos
8th January 2012, 12:31 PM
Flickr: Wilderness Kev's stuff tagged with stroud (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinmatthews/tags/stroud/)

have a look at the sign and guns.1855/6 said they had been from sydney--i suspect the pop up guns at bear island and fort scratchley newcastle.

Davehoos
8th January 2012, 01:01 PM
32 45' 45.99" S 151 44' 25.66" E


Panoramio - Photo of War Memorial Raymond Terrace NSW (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/14134909)

try 102 port stevens st raymond terrace been having fun with street veiw.
if you do a serch through this gent photos he has a few guns and planes all over the state.

4bee
8th January 2012, 03:31 PM
Digger, re your #3 image where the B& W sign originally said "Do not Climb on this tank" & some dull spark had obliterated the 'not' on two signs, so when I arrived at Echunga there was an altercation going on between a Hi-Viz & some young bloke on top of the turret who believed he had a right to be there.:D

The sign didn't appear to have been scraped just wiped with something that removed the paint (or the 'not')

When I left I think the Hi-viz was winning, but not by much, but a win is a win I guess. I suspect it should have been painted in a good oil based paint as should have been the culprit.:D


Easo, there is a WW1 wheeled Mortar (6 or 8 or 10") outside the CFS station in Hahndorf & it appears to get looked after. Funny name ie. a Mangelwurzel or something. But it ain't that of course.:D

Seems I was close:

The Old Cannon

The old gun between the CFS Station and the Hahndorf Community Hall is a minenwerfer, a German trench mortar weapon with a 25cm diameter barrel, captured by the 8th Division during fighting in France during World War 1. Its emplacement was the work of early CFS member Gordon Bernhardt. As then Secretary of the Hahndorf Sub-branch of the RSL, he called on his friend Senator Mattner, a local landowner and Federal Senator between 1944-1945 and 1950-1968 to assist.
The gun, the only one of its type in Australia, was procured from the Canberra War Memorial on the proviso that it be maintained in perpetuity. The Hahndorf RSL paid for the gun to be brought over by truck, and it was placed into a memorial garden, surrounded by a low wall, which was officially opened by Dr Bill Lawson a short time later in June, 1968.
When the local RSL group considered disbanding in the late 1970's, the gun was to be transferred to the Nairne RSL Sub-branch. However, the Hahndorf Lions Club, who owned and maintained the Community Hall at that time, intervened and promised to maintain the relic into the future. Gordon was pleased to receive that commitment, and to have the old gun remain in its prominent position along Main Street.
The RSL memorial garden was remodelled in the later 1980's, and the cement block wall taken down. Today's pleasant lawn area around the gun was planted using Brigade volunteer labour in April, 1986 at the suggestion of the then CFS Secretary Jon Cranna.
(Information extracted from "We're Not Heroes" - by Moya Stevens and Trevor Gauld)

Phoenix
10th January 2012, 01:17 PM
Easo, re WW1 and earlier trophies, there are quite a lot scattered about in tasmania, but I understand John Lennox has, or has access to, a register of all of them. I have contact details if required. He is one of the main organisers of the MMM&R show down here.

Lotz-A-Landies
10th January 2012, 03:17 PM
... The Old Cannon

The old gun between the CFS Station and the Hahndorf Community Hall is a minenwerfer, a German trench mortar weapon with a 25cm diameter barrel, captured by the 8th Division during fighting in France during World War 1. Its emplacement was the work of early CFS member Gordon Bernhardt. As then Secretary of the Hahndorf Sub-branch of the RSL, he called on his friend Senator Mattner, a local landowner and Federal Senator between 1944-1945 and 1950-1968 to assist.
The gun, the only one of its type in Australia, was procured from the Canberra War Memorial on the proviso that it be maintained in perpetuity. The Hahndorf RSL paid for the gun to be brought over by truck, and it was placed into a memorial garden, surrounded by a low wall, which was officially opened by Dr Bill Lawson a short time later in June, 1968.
When the local RSL group considered disbanding in the late 1970's, the gun was to be transferred to the Nairne RSL Sub-branch. However, the Hahndorf Lions Club, who owned and maintained the Community Hall at that time, intervened and promised to maintain the relic into the future. Gordon was pleased to receive that commitment, and to have the old gun remain in its prominent position along Main Street.
The RSL memorial garden was remodelled in the later 1980's, and the cement block wall taken down. Today's pleasant lawn area around the gun was planted using Brigade volunteer labour in April, 1986 at the suggestion of the then CFS Secretary Jon Cranna.
(Information extracted from "We're Not Heroes" - by Moya Stevens and Trevor Gauld)Not to be pedantic about this, but who's 8th Division captured the motar during WW1?

The Australian 8th Division was a WWII formation and fought and went into captivity in Singapore.

The 8th Brigade was part of the Australian 5th Division along with the 14th and 15th Brigades (was formed by spliting the original 2nd Division in half and adding fresh troops to make up the numbers in both the new and old Divisions) the 8 Bde did serve in France during WW1 with the battle of Fromelles being its first major battle.

DT-P38
19th January 2012, 10:09 PM
Not sure if anyone posted this one we saw at Two Wells RSL just North of Adelaide.



Have more pic's if needed.
Hoo Roo, Dave.

Cliffy
23rd January 2012, 02:14 AM
Did you know of the Leopard at the Dardenup Heritage museum (Bunbury RSL)?
I can get you some pics of it & the ARN.
I heard the non-gifted Leopards are to be used as hard targets on various ranges around Australia.

easo
23rd January 2012, 07:36 PM
Thanks Cliffy, I have been in contact with Gerry at Bunbury RSL for some time and have assisted them with their display. They have by far the best displayed Leopard in the RSL Fleet, without question.

See here, Military Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View topic - Leopard 27781 Bunbury RSL (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=477&t=2046)

I look forward to seeing their display completely finished. Truly is well thought out.

But new photos are always welcome Cliffy.

Regards Easo

easo
23rd January 2012, 07:37 PM
For all the RSL Leopard Tank we have look here,

Military Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View forum - RSL Leopards (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewforum.php?f=477)

Regards Easo

Old Leopard Tank
14th May 2012, 08:56 PM
Hi guys Lt Massey was killed in a carrier rollover i had just marched into A Sqn and was in his funeral guard also did Sgt Murrays as well. I found my old mount in Tassie and im going to visit her in july there is one a couple of hours away from in Mt Gambier so will look up the ARN and let you know if its 27754

easo
14th May 2012, 09:39 PM
G'day Old Leopard Tank, 27754 is at DSTO SA. I have been meaning to put a list of the 5-6 RSL I have not got images for.

For old Tankies if they are after a certain ARNs location/fate/demise then PM me and I'll see what I can find.

Easo

easo
21st July 2012, 03:41 PM
G'day all, I had this thread in REMLR but now can't access it. Any way so far we have the following 28 out of the 30 gifted tanks.

Beenleigh RSL (QLD); 29389
Bendigo RSL (VIC); 27741
Bribie Island RSL (QLD); 27731
Bunbury RSL (WA); 27781
Collie Cardiff RSL (WA); 27730
Echuca and Moama RSL (VIC); 27748
. Echunga RSL (SA); 29386
Epping RSL (VIC); 27762
Esperance RSL and Esperance Museum (WA); 27721
Forster-Tuncurry RSL (NSW); 27755
Ingleburn RSL (NSW); 27775
Jerilderie RSL (NSW); 27747
Kilcoy RSL (QLD); 29391
McLaren Vale RSL (SA) 27756
Mount Gambier Community RSL (SA); 29395
City of Palmerston RSL (NT); 27744
Port Kennedy RSL (WA); 27708
Port Augusta RSL (SA); 27779
Rutherglen RSL (VIC); 27780
Seymour RSL (VIC); 27739
Upwey - Belgrave RSL (VIC); 27765
Woodford RSL (QLD); 29388
Beaconsfield RSL (TAS); 27742
Cooktown RSL (QLD); 27718
Mount Perry RSL (QLD); 29399
Marion RSL (SA); 27745
Two Wells RSL (SA); 29390
Geraldton RSL (WA). 27709
. Army Museum (WA), 27736

We only need,
Canberra Services Club (ACT); and
Yarrawonga-Mulwala RSL (VIC).

They are listed over on the www.mvca.com.au or http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewforum.php?f=477

Any help in photographing the last two would be greatly appreciated.

Regards Easo

Pedro_The_Swift
21st July 2012, 03:54 PM
I've had a quick squiz easo,,
but cant find the pic listing,,

a better link?:angel:

easo
21st July 2012, 04:12 PM
Added, Military Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View forum - RSL Leopards (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewforum.php?f=477)

101RRS
21st July 2012, 04:21 PM
The Canberra tank is there on site - all they need now is to rebuild the Ex Services Club.

What do you need - suppose I could drive over tomorrow and take some pics if you want.

Garry

THE BOOGER
21st July 2012, 04:23 PM
easo heres a link to your old thread its still here but read only

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/remlr-general/122174-leopard-tank-help.html

If you ask one of the mods they may be able to move your thread and reopen it

:D

easo
21st July 2012, 10:06 PM
The Canberra tank is there on site - all they need now is to rebuild the Ex Services Club.

What do you need - suppose I could drive over tomorrow and take some pics if you want.

Garry

There is no rush, just next time you pass and have time.

All I'm after is a pic from every corner and one of the ARN. The images, once all Tanks are ticked off, will be also given to the Tank Museum.

Regards Easo

101RRS
22nd July 2012, 01:12 PM
All I'm after is a pic from every corner and one of the ARN. The images, once all Tanks are ticked off, will be also given to the Tank Museum.

Regards Easo

As best I can.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Forum%20Posts%20Album/P7220108.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Forum%20Posts%20Album/P7220113.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Forum%20Posts%20Album/P7220105.jpg

The fence was in the way
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Forum%20Posts%20Album/P7220107.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Forum%20Posts%20Album/P7220106.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Forum%20Posts%20Album/P7220112.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Forum%20Posts%20Album/P7220111.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Forum%20Posts%20Album/P7220114.jpg

Also there
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Forum%20Posts%20Album/P7220115.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/gazzz21/Forum%20Posts%20Album/P7220116.jpg

Garry

easo
22nd July 2012, 02:09 PM
As best I can.



That's the goods, have posted it. Military Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View topic - Leopard 27752 Canberra Services Club, ACT (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=477&t=2478&p=12718#p12718)

Cheers Easo

p38arover
23rd July 2012, 01:22 PM
Threads moved and merged.

easo
23rd July 2012, 05:55 PM
Thanks Ron

Lotz-A-Landies
23rd July 2012, 06:19 PM
Now things have quietened down a little, if you want any more, within reason, drop me a PM and we'll fix up those individual threads.

Diana

LandyAndy
3rd August 2012, 06:44 PM
Dan
Did you ever get a pic of the Collie RSL tank???
If not I MAY have to run one of our blokes to Bunbury in the next week or so to collect a truck from the repair shop,if I go I will get some pics.
Andrew

easo
5th August 2012, 04:28 PM
That would be awesome, a particular photo with that Tank is one from the left hand side capturing the rear left road wheel as it has a broken torsion bar in the rear.

Easo

LandyAndy
6th August 2012, 06:38 PM
Dan
I took the pics today,hadnt seen your message,hope these add to your collection.

Collie Cardiff RSL's Leopard Tank 27730.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/1411.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/1412.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/1413.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/1414.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/1415.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/1416.jpg

ENJOY
Andrew

easo
6th August 2012, 09:24 PM
G'day Andy, cheers for that. Notice in the first photo of the left front the rear road wheel is off the ground. That's because it has a broken torsion bar. Generally if one is gone the the opposite will eventually go, leaving this tank slowly sitting on its bum and the weight of the tank then gets picked up by the remaining torsion bars. So they could break (could be over quite a few years) one by one possibly leaving this tank on its belly plate.

Thanks again cobber, Easo

easo
19th August 2012, 04:34 PM
G'day all, a bit of moving of Vehicles here at the Tank Museum today and a few piccys. The last two are videos so click the image to play.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/663.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/08/664.jpg

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Enjoy Easo

LOZZA s1
17th July 2013, 10:27 AM
Hi Troops
Just wondering what the ARN is on the ARVM , I spent 9years on Leopard ARVMs, the vehs I had was , 27787,27782,32932 and 32933 I think that was there no's ,I spent a fair bit of time setting some of the museam veh up, I placed the mock up WW1 tank at the enterance, I think Lou walker was the RSM at the time, any way veh's all look good, keep it up, I must visit next time I am down.
Regards
Lozza

easo
17th July 2013, 10:07 PM
G'day Lozza, mate I'm only 900m from the Museum and will get the ARNs of the 2 ARVMs there. Bandiana Museum has an operational ARVM. The RAEME dust bowl has one holding ground with a gun tank on a A-frame as a gate guardian. The other 4 ARVMs have been allocated as hard targets. Wide bay, Shoal Water Bay and I forgot the other.

For Museum activity I try to keep this thread going on the MVCA site, Military Vehicle Collectors Australia Incorporated &bull; View topic - Today at the Museum (http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=249&t=2500)

Cheers Easo

LOZZA s1
18th July 2013, 12:06 PM
I can't believe they would sent the ARVMs as targets, they would be a more useful veh than a MBT in more ways than one. The only LEOPARD veh the tankies had no control of, exept track miles, at the end they still get blown up, what a shame, Thanks for the info, Easo

dhula
12th February 2014, 07:48 PM
Hey easo,
do you still want pics of the damage to the Pt Kennedy (WA) one, or any photos at all as I don't recall seeing any in this thread.
From memory (it's been a fair while since I was close up) all visi blox are smashed plus I think rear lites and reflectors. Not sure what else by now but the locals may have done more.
Let me know what you want and I'll try to get for you.

easo
15th February 2014, 03:07 PM
When ever the opportunity arrives. I have relocated back to Darwin for a few years so my Leopard activities are a bit slow for now.

Epic_Dragon
8th June 2014, 11:06 PM
i love the tank in echunga, visit it often. It needs some tlc as weather is taking its toll slowly. a dab of rust buster on those areas would really be helpful to it. there is a driving tank of some sort around the hills here, does anyone know what or who owns it? the majority of the time i see it, it is living in a paddock with cows, and often driving around the paddock. reading throug this thread, can tanks not be owned by private people? decommissioned turret obviously. I have always wanted to sit in one or go for a ride, was hoping to in NZ as a company there ran tank rides/drives. but in the last few weeks they have shut up shop :( but if tanks cannot be owned by general public who might have enougb money to buy one (the NZ ones are forsale) then how did the lucky chap around maccy/strath end up with a tank?

Mick_Marsh
8th June 2014, 11:19 PM
i love the tank in echunga, visit it often. It needs some tlc as weather is taking its toll slowly. a dab of rust buster on those areas would really be helpful to it. there is a driving tank of some sort around the hills here, does anyone know what or who owns it? the majority of the time i see it, it is living in a paddock with cows, and often driving around the paddock. reading throug this thread, can tanks not be owned by private people? decommissioned turret obviously. I have always wanted to sit in one or go for a ride, was hoping to in NZ as a company there ran tank rides/drives. but in the last few weeks they have shut up shop :( but if tanks cannot be owned by general public who might have enougb money to buy one (the NZ ones are forsale) then how did the lucky chap around maccy/strath end up with a tank?
Yep. I visit the one at Echunga regularly too.
When Easo was down here at Pucka, the days at the tank museum were great. With Easo, it was a real hands on experience.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/1208.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/Puckapunyal/Christmas%202012/TheGang.jpg.html)

Lotz-A-Landies
9th June 2014, 07:47 AM
i love the tank in echunga, visit it often. It needs some tlc as weather is taking its toll slowly. a dab of rust buster on those areas would really be helpful to it. ...
... reading throug this thread, can tanks not be owned by private people? decommissioned turret obviously. ...

... :( but if tanks cannot be owned by general public who might have enougb money to buy one (the NZ ones are forsale) then how did the lucky chap around maccy/strath end up with a tank?Your information is not completely true.

The Leopard tanks and the M113 are the first armoured vehicles that are not being sold by the Australian Government. Apparently the hulls of the M113 are still owned by the US Government and they therefore control who gets access, including other countries. Also a majority of the M113A1 have been lengthened and upgraded to M113AS3 or M113AS4 specification and will remain in service past 2020.

Most of the Centurian fleet (101) were sold by tender to a single person. A couple of dozen off those were sold to the US to be disguised as M1 Abrams for use in the movie "Courage Under Fire", a few dozen more were scrapped and the rest are in private hands around the country.

There are numerous WWII types in private hands and there are many foreign armoured vehicles privately imported to Aus, however it is very difficult to get through the import restrictions and paperwork.

The Tank Museum at Puckapunyal has an annual operating budget from Defence that does not include appropriate funding for maintenance of the collection and being in Seymour there are limited volunteers available to even regularly wash the collection. Particularly those stored in the weather.

Pickles2
9th June 2014, 09:50 AM
I've been to the Tank Museum at Pucka. A VERY good display. When we went there, there was a very large, & very friendly, ginger cat, sitting on the counter, in the office!
Pickles.

Epic_Dragon
9th June 2014, 02:06 PM
im not sure what type the tank is that cruises around the paddock. only seen it when I have been driving past and there is no space to park up on to have a look and talk to the owner. im assuming it's one of the ww2 types you mention. thanks for the information. very in depth :) is it up to the rsl to look after the tank they were gifted? id volunteer to help look after it if I knew who to contact. paint brush and rust buster would go a long way. that stuff saved my panel van for all the years it was out in the weather!

Epic_Dragon
9th June 2014, 02:06 PM
where is pucka? definitely have to go there one day :)

THE BOOGER
9th June 2014, 02:44 PM
Pucka or Puckapunyal is the middle of vic home of the RAAC training centre and museum
Royal Australian Armoured Corps Tank Museum - Puckapunyal Australia (http://www.armytankmuseum.com.au/i-about.htm)

well worth a visit if you can plan a visit around march you could meet up with one of the AULRO/REMLR visits during corowa military veh rally:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scrUSqRXF3E

not a tank but most civies call it a tank:p

Epic_Dragon
9th June 2014, 06:13 PM
sensational video :D thankyou! haha! being in victoria ill definately be goign there :D oh cool! around march sounds like a great time of year to go!

Don 130
9th June 2014, 08:06 PM
Your information is not completely true.

The Leopard tanks and the M113 are the first armoured vehicles that are not being sold by the Australian Government. Apparently the hulls of the M113 are still owned by the US Government and they therefore control who gets access, including other countries. Also a majority of the M113A1 have been lengthened and upgraded to M113AS3 or M113AS4 specification and will remain in service past 2020.

Most of the Centurian fleet (101) were sold by tender to a single person. A couple of dozen off those were sold to the US to be disguised as M1 Abrams for use in the movie "Courage Under Fire", a few dozen more were scrapped and the rest are in private hands around the country.

There are numerous WWII types in private hands and there are many foreign armoured vehicles privately imported to Aus, however it is very difficult to get through the import restrictions and paperwork.

The Tank Museum at Puckapunyal has an annual operating budget from Defence that does not include appropriate funding for maintenance of the collection and being in Seymour there are limited volunteers available to even regularly wash the collection. Particularly those stored in the weather.

I know of a bloke who had lots of tanks bought from the government. He sold most of them, but I think he's still got a couple in the shed. A lot were sold without turrets to be used a bush tugs for various tasks. Some sold to other armies and some to movie makers. I think they had thirsty petrol engines, perhaps the centurions?
Don.

Lotz-A-Landies
9th June 2014, 08:12 PM
If its the same bloke he still has a centurian: training tank; an armoured recovery vehicle; and a bridge layer, apart from a couple of other armoured vehicles. (Plus a shed full of spares)

The engines were 12 cylinder Rolls Royce Meteor engines, almost the same as the Merlin in the Lancaster, Mosquito and Spitfire but without the supercharger. You'd be thirsty if you had to push 50 tons around! :D

LOZZA s1
30th August 2014, 07:09 PM
They sure were thirsty, when I was a young Soldier in 8 RAR I did an exercise in Pucka with 1 ARMD Regt we use to ride on the back of the Cents , I remember the Tankie telling me they get about 4 gals to the mile, send you broke if you owned

LandyAndy
30th September 2014, 10:47 PM
Hi Dan.
Was in Geraldton over the weekend.Got you a couple of pics of the Geraldton Leopard.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/09/1.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/DSC01944_zpsa75034c9.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/09/2.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/DSC01946_zps5ae0faea.jpg.html)

Andrew

MKC
21st December 2014, 11:22 AM
Posted previously: " The Leopard tanks and the M113 are the first armoured vehicles that are not being sold by the Australian Government. Apparently the hulls of the M113 are still owned by the US Government and they therefore control who gets access, including other countries. Also a majority of the M113A1 have been lengthened and upgraded to M113AS3 or M113AS4 specification and will remain in service past 2020.

Most of the Centurian fleet (101) were sold by tender to a single person. A couple of dozen off those were sold to the US to be disguised as M1 Abrams for use in the movie "Courage Under Fire", a few dozen more were scrapped and the rest are in private hands around the country."


If I may offer some further information: The first batches of M113A1 were purchased by Australia direct from FMC and are not subject to US State Department rules. Later batches purchased under foreign sales agreements through the US Dept of Defense are subject to a State Department end-user agreement, which means they cannot normally be on-sold without approval of the US State Department. The difference is administrative: I doubt it will make any difference as to how the surplus (after the upgrades are completed) are disposed of, which won't include disposal to the public. A number are slated for retention as museum pieces under the Army History Unit's Significant Vehicles project.


The total number of Centurions (all types) sold was 105, to a company, not an individual: Combat Vehicles Australia had three directors/partners. The total Centurion acquisitions by Australia was 150, of which 143 received registration numbers, and 7 were reduced to spare parts. So 38 were retained and ended up as gate guards, museum pieces and hard targets.


The total number of Centurion gun tanks exported to the USA for making the movie Courage Under Fire was 12.


The engine in the Centurion Mk5 was a Meteor Mk4B, and in the Dozer a Meteor Mk4BH. All the Meteor Mk4 series engines were built by Rover, rather than Rolls Royce. While the Meteor is based upon the Rolls Royce Merlin aircraft engine, its development and manufacture as a tank engine was carried out by Rover.


Regarding the Leopard images at Geraldton, these show ARN 27709, which was allocated to the Canberra Services Club. If that's the case, does anyone know where ARN 29399 is, the tank originally allocated to Geraldton RSL??


Thanks


MKC

THE BOOGER
21st December 2014, 12:57 PM
Hi Mike welcome to the forum. I think Easo has pics of most of the Leopards will have a look for the Canberra one or if one of the Canberra members knows the arn:)

EDIT the Canberra Services leopard is 27752, 29399 Mt Perry Qland

here's the list from MVCA
http://www.mvca.com.au/forum/viewforum.php?f=477

Lotz-A-Landies
22nd December 2014, 08:34 AM
Hi Mike

You mentioned the original M113A1 being bought direct from FMC. Would these still not be covered by the ITAR (International Trade in Arms Regulations)?

Diana

MKC
22nd December 2014, 09:07 AM
Hi Diana

Covered under ITAR or not wasn't the question: the previous statement was in relation to US State Dept agreements and authority.


Booger: thanks for the Leopard reference: makes a difference to the final distribution list, rather than the 'authorised'.

MKC

Lotz-A-Landies
22nd December 2014, 10:14 AM
Hi Mike

My comment was a new question and most certainly not a statement contradicting your information.

Diana :)

easo
27th December 2014, 07:58 PM
I have been away from the Leopard chase for a while as my focus has been redirected due to work reasons and not being close to the Museum any more.

I did get a great chance to drive a Centurion a few months ago. We also drove an FV432.

Enjoy Easo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf-Z-WBCeFc&list=UUaHoXwrilQKcUERXSYaPe0A

LandyAndy
10th January 2016, 10:09 PM
Dan.
Was at Northampton(North of Geraldton) this week.
The RSL there looks like it has recently taken delivery of a Centurion Tank.Looks like it just escaped a battle,not as neat as the 2 Leapords Ive seen.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/593.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/20160109_085032_zpskvm1y6c7.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/594.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/20160109_085049_zpsw0ky2hmo.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/595.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/20160109_085127_zpsgmkffglh.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/596.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/20160109_085154_zpsmtrppg2b.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/597.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/20160109_085205_zpstpmieckk.jpg.html)

Andrew

Lotz-A-Landies
11th January 2016, 11:49 AM
Dan.
Was at Northampton(North of Geraldton) this week.
The RSL there looks like it has recently taken delivery of a Centurion Tank.Looks like it just escaped a battle,not as neat as the 2 Leapords Ive seen.
Unfortunately that Leopard tank is a Centurion tank, a 1945 end of WWII design, they were sold off by tender in the 1990's and (unlike the disposal of Leopards) haven't been near the Army for a freshen up since that time.

An interesting fact on Centurions: In the Denzel Washington/Meg Ryan movie "Courage Under Fire" the Abrams tanks were actually disguised ex-Australian Centurions.

p38arover
11th January 2016, 01:07 PM
Here's 27742 (yes, I know you already have some pics) taken at Beaconsfield, Tas. when I was there in October 2015.

This is a sampler.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/589.jpg

See more at (as you can see, I've done no editing to improve the images):
https://picasaweb.google.com/p38arover/Beaconsfield

LandyAndy
15th February 2016, 10:18 PM
Unfortunately that Leopard tank is a Centurion tank, a 1945 end of WWII design, they were sold off by tender in the 1990's and (unlike the disposal of Leopards) haven't been near the Army for a freshen up since that time.

An interesting fact on Centurions: In the Denzel Washington/Meg Ryan movie "Courage Under Fire" the Abrams tanks were actually disguised ex-Australian Centurions.

No ****.I said it was a Centurion!!!!
I took the pics and published them because I know Dan loves his tanks.
Perhaps the Northampton RSL boys couldnt suck hard enough to get a Leopard:confused::confused::confused::confused::co nfused::confused:
Its over 700km from here so I took pics as I may not be back there soon,I doubt Dan will either.
Andrew

67hardtop
15th February 2016, 10:53 PM
I just seen this thread. Ive seen a tank on display at i think two wells here in sa. Dont know what brand it is but its bloody big. Looks cool. Sorry no pics.

Cheers Rod

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LandyAndy
15th February 2016, 11:07 PM
I just seen this thread. Ive seen a tank on display at i think two wells here in sa. Dont know what brand it is but its bloody big. Looks cool. Sorry no pics.

Cheers Rod

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Take a pic and post man.
Make sure you get the ARN numbers in the pic so Dan can tick it off his list.
Andrew

cuppabillytea
15th February 2016, 11:30 PM
Sorry, I have just one Pic of the Forster-Tuncurry one

67hardtop
16th February 2016, 12:15 AM
Take a pic and post man.
Make sure you get the ARN numbers in the pic so Dan can tick it off his list.
Andrew

I might have to go for a drive then.

Cheers Rod

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Mick_Marsh
16th February 2016, 02:45 AM
That would be 29390
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/02/388.jpg

Redback
16th February 2016, 08:51 AM
That would be 29390
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/02/388.jpg

INFO on said tank
Leopard AS1 Main Battle Tank, Two Wells, South Australia - Military Ground Equipment Displays on Waymarking.com (http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMKKH7_Leopard_AS1_Main_Battle_Tank_Two_Wells_Sout h_Australia)

67hardtop
16th February 2016, 10:15 AM
Ok so i wont go for a drive then.

Cheers Rod

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TerryO
21st February 2016, 06:37 AM
There is an exceptional bakery in Two Wells so the drive wouldn't be a total waste of time. ... ;)

Sly
4th October 2016, 10:54 PM
Look Easo , it followed me home , can we keep it ????
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/10/728.jpg