New intercooler needed (bigger) tdi300

[bblaze]

Hi Guys
Posted this in the WA section but no replys yet, so against my better judgement I will post here too in hope I can solve my delema

Hi to all WA aulro
Currently in esperence on my way to perth and need to find/buy a LARGER intercooler to fit my 300tdi series 1 disco, will need to bolt straight in as I am only carring minimum of tools so not able to mod to fit. Thought I was going to fry the arse out of the old girl crossing the nullabor. Hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
cheers
blaze

[justinc]

Hi rob,

Not sure of a quick resolution here, a full width front mount would help BUT not an easy fit and trying to find one may be a problem. I'd send you one if I had it:(

Maybe some member in WA may have a Allisport or similar to sell?

JC

[LandyAndy]

Pretty sure the ASE mob do a TDI intercooler.
VERY IMPRESSED with my TD5 version.
Andrew

[CraigE]

Is your urrent cooler buggered or does it just need a clean out?
Shame I am not still in Esperance as would have been able to help you at least with tools and a shed.
If you want the bigger unit Ring ASE directly and get them to freight one to you asap

[LandyAndy]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://www.aulro.com/4WD-PERFORMANCE/4WD-INTERCOOLERS/INTERCOOLER-UPGRADE-LANDROVER-200TDI-300TDI/prod_354.html)

$550 from ASE

4WD PERFORMANCE - ASETurbo (http://www.aseturbo.com/4wd-performance/cat_64.html)

If you do contact them tell them its URGENT!!!!
Delivery for mine was a few weeks.
WORKMANSHIP ON MY COOLER IS VERY GOOD!!!
Andrew

[bblaze]

Is your urrent cooler buggered or does it just need a clean out?
Shame I am not still in Esperance as would have been able to help you at least with tools and a shed.
If you want the bigger unit Ring ASE directly and get them to freight one to you asap

current cooler was cleaned out recently by JC and is still in good condition but not doing the job well enough, was nearly at meltdown for most of the way between border village and balladonia. If someone had offered me $50 for the disco yesterday I reckon I would have sold it
cheers
blaze

[bblaze]

http://www.aseturbo.com/skins/Sandbox/php/getImg.php'src=/images/uploads/thumbs/thumb_200tdi landrover 019.jpg&width=178&height=130 (http://www.aulro.com/4WD-PERFORMANCE/4WD-INTERCOOLERS/INTERCOOLER-UPGRADE-LANDROVER-200TDI-300TDI/prod_354.html)

$550 from ASE

4WD PERFORMANCE - ASETurbo (http://www.aseturbo.com/4wd-performance/cat_64.html)

If you do contact them tell them its URGENT!!!!
Delivery for mine was a few weeks.
WORKMANSHIP ON MY COOLER IS VERY GOOD!!!
Andrew

Thanks andy,
not in a huge hurry as the worst is over for now with mainly shorter runs
cheers
blaze

[LandyAndy]

Where are you travel plans in WA???
Im in Williams with tools if you are travelling between Albany and Perth(Im on Albany hwy,160ks south of Perth)
You are more than welcome to lob here whilst you fit the new intercooler and use my gear.You can get it delivered here too if that is of help.
Andrew

[bblaze]

Where are you travel plans in WA???
Im in Williams with tools if you are travelling between Albany and Perth(Im on Albany hwy,160ks south of Perth)
You are more than welcome to lob here whilst you fit the new intercooler and use my gear.You can get it delivered here too if that is of help.
Andrew

I will contact them tommorrow and check price and availbility and see what transpires from there Andy, will have to catch up at sometime, they tell me you are the master of WA:D
cheers
blaze

[PAT303]

I'm not following you.You say you are ''frying the arse out of it'' are you pulling high EGT's or boiling the engine?. Pat

[LandyAndy]

I will contact them tommorrow and check price and availbility and see what transpires from there Andy, will have to catch up at sometime, they tell me you are the master of WA:D
cheers
blaze

Ive met that nice tasweegian landy fixer mate of yours,you are welcome too;);););)
Andrew

[dullbird]

Can you retro fit from a defender???

this is in the markets

Message - AULRO Classifieds (http://www.aulro.com/apc/showproduct.php/product/4557/cat/all)

[bblaze]

I'm not following you.You say you are ''frying the arse out of it'' are you pulling high EGT's or boiling the engine?. Pat


At different time both Pat, on the first days with the heat wave through SA, with the air con off getting upto 107 degrees, normally when towing the van (about 1800kg or there abouts) its in the low 90's, with the EGT's, normally around 350 to 500 but the last couple of days ( yesterday was the worst) the temps were 700-750 degrees, maybe a tad higher at times and was very hard to manage, today every thing was happy again from balladonia to esperance
cheers
blaze

[bblaze]

Can you retro fit from a defender???

this is in the markets

Message - AULRO Classifieds (http://www.aulro.com/apc/showproduct.php/product/4557/cat/all)

Thanks dullbird
At this stage I have even taken my driving lights off so I dont want to impede the air flow any more
cheers
blaze

[dullbird]

Is your viscous working?

[bblaze]

Is your viscous working?

yes damit
wish it was so simple
cheers
blaze

[big guy]

Call TRS in SA, I got mine from there and is brilliant, compared to standard one anyway.

Travelling on very hot days can be a bit like that, when we travel with kids dogs and trailer, i drop speed to 80-90km/h and drop a gear, temperature on EGT drops immediately, I also get radiator done(Flushed) every year before summer.

[bblaze]

Call TRS in SA, I got mine from there and is brilliant, compared to standard one anyway.

Travelling on very hot days can be a bit like that, when we travel with kids dogs and trailer, i drop speed to 80-90km/h and drop a gear, temperature on EGT drops immediately, I also get radiator done(Flushed) every year before summer.

Was down to second gear at times
cheers
blaze

[LandyAndy]

Call TRS in SA, I got mine from there and is brilliant, compared to standard one anyway.

Travelling on very hot days can be a bit like that, when we travel with kids dogs and trailer, i drop speed to 80-90km/h and drop a gear, temperature on EGT drops immediately, I also get radiator done(Flushed) every year before summer.


The TRS one is the same unit I linked,made by the same mob.
Andrew

[bblaze]

All sort thank you all for your assistance. Talked to dave this morning and very helpful, has them in stock.
cheers
blaze

[justinc]

Hey Rob, just out of interest, Can you try a smidge less max fuel scew and see what happens? There is a point, that may have been reached, where the fuel input and power output crossover if you like, for want of a better expression. I am saying that at higher loads than what I can replicate by setting up your fuelling, (IE towing fully laden with high ambient temps) it is quite possible that you can reduce your max fuel and gain some power back rather than fit a larger IC to combat the problem. Basically I think you have exceeded the efficiency of heat exchange with a standard IC, and you MAY well notice very little drop in power but big decreases in EGT's , by reducing the overall fuel delivery. (Screw out the max fuel screw 1/8th of a turn)

Give me a call if you like tomorrow, Or I'll try and get you during the day:)

JC

[DiscoMick]

Probably a silly Q, but I assume both your electric fans are working properly. I ask because I had that problem myself on Cape York. Now fixed and the needle never moves.

[PAT303]

Hey Rob, just out of interest, Can you try a smidge less max fuel scew and see what happens? There is a point, that may have been reached, where the fuel input and power output crossover if you like, for want of a better expression. I am saying that at higher loads than what I can replicate by setting up your fuelling, (IE towing fully laden with high ambient temps) it is quite possible that you can reduce your max fuel and gain some power back rather than fit a larger IC to combat the problem. Basically I think you have exceeded the efficiency of heat exchange with a standard IC, and you MAY well notice very little drop in power but big decreases in EGT's , by reducing the overall fuel delivery. (Screw out the max fuel screw 1/8th of a turn)

Give me a call if you like tomorrow, Or I'll try and get you during the day:)

JC

JC,if you or someone else has tuned the engine in Tassie's cold weather it would be overfueling in our hot dry air here. Pat

[DiscoMick]

I was advised not to turn up the fuel by more than about a quarter of a turn.

[justinc]

JC,if you or someone else has tuned the engine in Tassie's cold weather it would be overfueling in our hot dry air here. Pat

Yes, ME:D. It was tuned for 650deg upstream max under load in around 20degrees ambient, but NOT towing heavy loads in higher ambient temps. Thats Why I would try backing it off a little and try it first, 1/8th to 1/4 of a turn is going to help IME.

JC

[justinc]

I was advised not to turn up the fuel by more than about a quarter of a turn.

Thats an arbitrary amount, it totally depends on the timing, turbocharger type, manifolding and intercooler etc.

ANY fuelling changes other than minor movements should be done with a pyrometer, prefferably upstream.

JC

[PAT303]

Yes, ME:D. It was tuned for 650deg upstream max under load in around 20degrees ambient, but NOT towing heavy loads in higher ambient temps. Thats Why I would try backing it off a little and try it first, 1/8th to 1/4 of a turn is going to help IME.

JC

Bloody mechanics.You can't help yourselves,got to fiddle with everything.:p. Pat

[bblaze]

Hi JC
dont ring me at 5 in the morning like my dad did to check on the fires. I will give you a ring when I get to Perth, I will wind the fuel back a bit but I will also fit the new intercooler.
thanks Justin
cheers
blaze
ps
isnt it wonderful having your mechanic online anywhere in aust
and thanks again to all that have offered there thoughts

[bblaze]

Hi All
Well the new intercooler is fitted and as JC sugested I have backed the fuel off 1/8 of a turn, now just have to see how the results are when we start towing again in about a fortnight.
Cheers
blaze

[Smackhawk]

Hi all, my 1st post here, I'm a bit of a Landy jube....
Anyway this sounds like a great mod! I just got a 98 300Tdi with 300kkms, she runs well but as I tow a camper and 3T boat on occasions, a better IC may help.
I also think a better tranny cooler is needed, can you fit a bigger P38 cooler as well as the bigger intercooler?
Cheers

[DiscoMick]

Yeah, I'd like some details too. Is it an Allasport intercooler? How much did it cost? Is it difficult to fit?

[bblaze]

Hi all, my 1st post here, I'm a bit of a Landy jube....
Anyway this sounds like a great mod! I just got a 98 300Tdi with 300kkms, she runs well but as I tow a camper and 3T boat on occasions, a better IC may help.
I also think a better tranny cooler is needed, can you fit a bigger P38 cooler as well as the bigger intercooler?
Cheers

What to say, I have made a few changes as well as fitting the intercooler. The orignal problem was I was seeing 750 degrees for lenthy periods of time whilts towing close to 2 tonne of van from vic to wa. Also seeing 105 degrees very engine temps. I have since fitting the cooler backed off the max fuel srcew 1/2 a turn (fuel was set for tassie cooler air orignally) and I think I am about the same power now as when I was in tassie with way lower EGT's and should be using less fuel and not turning it into black smoke
cheers
blaze

[bblaze]

Yeah, I'd like some details too. Is it an Allasport intercooler? How much did it cost? Is it difficult to fit?

All the details are in the thread somewhere as well as other info other people have suplied, have a read and I am sure you will find what you are after
cheers
blaze