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WillsDisco
10th February 2011, 08:24 PM
G'day All,

I have a '96 V8i manual with 235K on the odometer and a good service history. The Disco is in sound condition and will be a keeper.
My question is, do these engines work well with an LPG conversion? The Disco will only be used on trips & offroading as I commute by motorcycle. It's a thirsty bugger, for such a small eight. I've heard that some engines run very well on LPG and others do not, I'm not sure which category the Disco falls into!

Thanks in advance:D

bee utey
10th February 2011, 08:38 PM
G'day All,

I have a '96 V8i manual with 235K on the odometer and a good service history. The Disco is in sound condition and will be a keeper.
My question is, do these engines work well with an LPG conversion? The Disco will only be used on trips & offroading as I commute by motorcycle. It's a thirsty bugger, for such a small eight. I've heard that some engines run very well on LPG and others do not, I'm not sure which category the Disco falls into!

Thanks in advance:D

LPG works well on D1's PROVIDING THEY ARE TUNED FOR GAS!!!!!!!!

I can't emphasize this enough, most LPG problems on the D1 are from assuming petrol specs for timing, plugs and leads will do. If you do the right thing then they go well on gas. You will need to find someone with good experience with these vehicles as they are a bit different to other modern cars.

sam_d
10th February 2011, 10:04 PM
My '97 V8 runs fine on LPG. There were a couple of teething problems when it was first installed but it's not missed a beat after they were sorted out.

Keep everything well maintained and you'll be fine and save heaps on your fuel costs :)

blackbuttdisco
11th February 2011, 07:50 AM
My 95 V8 (346000km) runs better on LPG than petrol. Its on LPg 95% of the time and has been for the last 5years. Will never go back to a diesel.

big guy
11th February 2011, 08:07 AM
Had 3 V8 Landies of different engine configurations done locally here.

If done right, they are the last thing to give you any grieve and Yes, running costs as far as fuel goes at least are nearly halved.

blitz
11th February 2011, 08:44 AM
I had Bee Utey put gas in my 94 disco with a 4.6 RR motor in it. I cant recommend enough how good it is, BUT Bee Utey is right it must be tuned for gas, I had it serviced in town and have to organise to get it retuned for the gas.

trobbo
11th February 2011, 11:04 AM
I put gas injection on my D1 and couldn't have been happier with the conversion. Get an LR shop who deals with gas to do it. If you were in Vic I could give you a couple of recommendations but I dont know about nsw suppliers.

nice1guv
11th February 2011, 01:30 PM
My previous D1 was a 96 auto on gas and it was fantastic.

It ran perfect on gas and petrol. There was a very very slight reduction in power on gas, but it was only just noticeable on take-off and not something most people would even care about.

The biggest problem you might have, depending on your use, is range on gas.
You generally only can get 300-350km (maybe a bit more or less) out of a roughly 70L useable tank.

If the tank goes under the back, in a twin tank setup, you also lose the 80L petrol tank and it gets replaced with a 35L sill tank, which won't get you far on petrol.

blitz
11th February 2011, 02:17 PM
mine is 60lt in 3 tanks on the back so kept the main tank but lost some luggage space and cant use the fold out seats after a year of it i get 250km for the 60lt tankfull.will an average cost between $35-00 and $40-00 per tank.

working it out on $ per km it is the equivalent of 10lt per 100km if it was petrol, close enough. so for a 2.75tonne constant 4wd I think that is bloody good.

wattysan
11th February 2011, 04:00 PM
I have a 96 V8i on gas. Orignally, it was a Venturi System and I have changed over to a Vapour Injection setup. Both systems, dependant on driving, get a range of between 250kms (city) and 350kms (highway).

The reason I changed from the simpler Venturi to the computer controlled Vapour injection is that the later provides the same power as petrol. Having said that, I am told that a good "old style" set up should give you similar results.

The tank is a 60 litre scuba (i.e. 3 linked tanks) set up in the rear cargo area retaining the original petrol tank. It was placed with a bit of precision so that the rear dickie seats are still useable.

Bee Utey is correct in saying that you need to set timing to suit and that all ignition components are suitable for lpg. And as always, Land Rovers need to be worked on by someone who knows them.

WillsDisco
11th February 2011, 06:23 PM
Thanks everyone for the info, greatly appreciated:D

I'll talk to KLR Automotive at Kingswood, they are close to where I live and have serviced my Disco when the previous owner I bought it from had it. I recently had the clutch master & slave cylinders replaced there. I can't get around under vehicles any more due to a couple of work injuries:mad:
Looks like the LPG is the way to go, the V8i petrol is a bit of a shock after driving a 2.5 litre intercooled turbo diesel Pajero for a while! Ouch:o

Thanks again for the advice.
Will.

wattysan
15th February 2011, 02:16 PM
BBarkz asked for some images of the 60 litre scuba tanks fitted into the back to illustrate that the dickie seats continue to operate. Obviously, unless you are under 10 years old, you wouldn't want to be seated there for long.

I made up a simple table type cover from alumininium SHS tube and connectors from Bunnings with ply top and marine carpet. It is great for placing my fridge on when we go camping to keep away from moisture and dirt.

The rear seats still fold down also. So apart from losing a 200mm depth of cargo space, the whole set up works pretty well.

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bbarkz
15th February 2011, 06:42 PM
Thanks wattysan,Have you taken the drop down support off the seats? If so does that affect RWC or insurance as they have been modified??:)Thanks....

GEK064
15th February 2011, 08:01 PM
Yep all good - though I blew a few MAF sensors in my 99D2 - Also blew an air filter box apart - twice. Also the hood liner once caught fire - but since it was tuned by west gas in campbeltown it's been a treat. Over two years I had problems then one trip to a gas specialist and been it's great - 350km per fill up. Now looking at one of those Marrelli systems from the UK.

wattysan
16th February 2011, 08:11 AM
Bberkz. PM sent so as not to hijack this discussion.

p38arover
16th February 2011, 08:34 AM
Also blew an air filter box apart - twice.

Which is why I fitted a steel air cleaner box to my P38A when I had the old LPG system.

Article here: 4.0/4.6/P38A Air Box Replacement (http://www.rangerovers.net/rrupgrades/airbox/index.html)

Chilly
19th May 2011, 11:58 PM
Hi Willsdisco,

Did you get a LPG system fitted
What system did you get fitted?
Expensive?