Breastfeeding, what's your feeling on it.

[PAT303]

My youngest sister was breasting her daughter,my new niece that I haven't seen yet at a day care center at her local pool when the manager asked her to stop as a woman complained about it.She had to go into a store room and sit on a box and feed Mena thier and rightly she wasn't happy.I have to ask,what is wrong with people today?,breastfeeding is the most natural thing there is but people have nothing better to do but complain about it.We are becoming a bunch of dumb wingers that expect handouts when we can't afford the lifes we want and complain about anyone and anything simply because we have the right too. Pat

[Andrew D]

My youngest sister was breasting her daughter,my new niece that I haven't seen yet at a day care center at her local pool when the manager asked her to stop as a woman complained about it.She had to go into a store room and sit on a box and feed Mena thier and rightly she wasn't happy.I have to ask,what is wrong with people today?,breastfeeding is the most natural thing there is but people have nothing better to do but complain about it.We are becoming a bunch of dumb wingers that expect handouts when we can't afford the lifes we want and complain about anyone and anything simply because we have the right too. Pat

I would not have moved even if I was a female and therefore had the ability to breast feed. Your sister should have politely refused.

Regards
Andrew

[Ausfree]

I (as a male) have no problem with it, as long as it is discreet and not out there and in your face, if you know what I mean!!!:) I too, would have stood my ground and told that busybody to mind their own business!!:mad:

[isuzurover]

IMHO it is perfectly natural and I have no problem.

Many states specifically mention breastfeeding (in public) in their anti-discrimination legislation. It is quite likely the manager may have been breaking the law.

[justinc]

What Bleedin century were they from???:mad:

She should follow this up with the media, get them fish slapped.

Tell her she has our full support:)

JC

[101RRS]

IMHO it is perfectly natural and I have no problem.


So is farting, No1s and No2s and that other sex thing that most do in private. These are not acceptable in public.

I do not have a problem with breastfeeding in public if it is discrete however some seem to to do it so obvious as to be almost making a political point. I would prefer it not be in public and in a specified place however most do not exist or are unacceptable such as toilets.

I think there needs to be a bit of give an take on both sides - breastfeeding women should be allowed but they need to understand the sensitivities involved for some people and likewise other people need to understand the needs of breast feeding mothers.

Garry

[p38arover]

I wouldn't have moved. The other woman is the one at fault.

[rick130]

As JC said, what bloody century are we in ?

In a lot of ways I feel things have become much more conservative/reactionary since I was growing up in the seventies.
Breast feeding the babies was the done thing in our family, was done discretely in public (mostly you wouldn't have noticed) and made me aware as i grew up that anyone that made a scene about it was usually someone with hangups.





The TV ad where it showed a male office worker eating his lunch in a toilet cubicle summed up the breast feeding debate well.

You wouldn't expect an adult to eat their lunch in a public loo, so why do people expect mums and bubs to do so ?

[KarlB]

My youngest sister was breasting her daughter,my new niece that I haven't seen yet at a day care center at her local pool when the manager asked her to stop as a woman complained about it.She had to go into a store room and sit on a box and feed Mena thier and rightly she wasn't happy.I have to ask,what is wrong with people today?,breastfeeding is the most natural thing there is but people have nothing better to do but complain about it.We are becoming a bunch of dumb wingers that expect handouts when we can't afford the lifes we want and complain about anyone and anything simply because we have the right too. Pat

Pursuant to the WA Equal Opportunity Act 1984, it is unlawful to discriminate against a person for breast feeding (see attached). Your daughter would have grounds for action against the pool’s management and should at least seek a written apology for their inappropriate and discriminatory behaviour.

Cheers
KarlB
:mad:

[George130]

I would only have moved if they insisted that all eating and drinking was only allowed in the same store room and only one person at a time. I would also have complained aout the discusting behavior of patrons showing skin in public.
If they didn't agree then it would be the choice of move me y force and see you in court buddy.


Personnaly I agree it should be discreat but is acceptable in public.

[LSD_AUTOMOTIVE]

Breasts were made to feed a child. There is nothing offensive in the act of breastfeeding and even saying it should done 'discreetly' is odd to me. (but fair enough, I have done it)

I don't see adults eating 'discreetly'...why should a baby? Just because it makes you feel uncomfortable? That's a result of your perception of breasts being influenced by society, the media etc... not by the woman or the child so why should they suffer. I don't know any women that whip off their shirt and do a few star jumps before picking up the baby...

I agree with Karl - it's illegal to ask a woman to stop breastfeeding.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

We are a signatory WHO treaty on the promotion if breast feeding. This treaty imposes a number of requirements on governments. As a day care centre, I would believe they are responsible to provide appropriate facilities for the feeding of children. A store room with box is not appropriate and neither is a toilet.

Public hospitals in NSW are required to provide such facilities for visitors and I can not see that a local council provided day care would have different requirements. I'd be going direct to the council that owns the pool to lodge a complaint and demand a written apology both in writing and in the local paper. Then I'd be demanding that the day care install a breast feeding room appropriately furnished.

Diana

[blitz]

anyone who has an issue with breast feeding obviously has some sort of psycological problem - it's what they are there for. should we stop cows from letting calves "breast feeding" or dogs, cats etc because some sicko thinks it's either erotic or naughty; stuff em i dont care who I offend on this point GET A LIFE breasts are for feeding babies end of story

[JDNSW]

We are a signatory WHO treaty on the promotion if breast feeding. This treaty imposes a number of requirements on governments. As a day care centre, I would believe they are responsible to provide appropriate facilities for the feeding of children. A store room with box is not appropriate and neither is a toilet.

Public hospitals in NSW are required to provide such facilities for visitors and I can not see that a local council provided day care would have different requirements. I'd be going direct to the council that owns the pool to lodge a complaint and demand a written apology both in writing and in the local paper. Then I'd be demanding that the day care install a breast feeding room appropriately furnished.

Diana

I think Diana has summed it up perfectly. And I agree with Blitz, LSD_Automotive etc. If anyone was asked to leave it should have been the complainant!

John

[easo]

It's the law! Any woman can and is allowed to breast feed in a public place. Pub, shopping center, park, movie theater etc...

My wife has been asked to "Stop that disgusting act and take it to the toilet" to which she replied "would you eat your lunch in the toilet? Now #### off!".

You can point your sister here if you like,
Australian Breastfeeding Association :: Log in (http://www.lrc.asn.au/forum/search.php'search_id=newposts)

Regards Easo

[PAT303]

I look at it this way,don't like it,don't look. Pat

[MEANZ06]

:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/02/910.jpg

[zuno555]

I would like to know the nationality of the complainant......

Most of the time you wouldn't even realise a mother is breastfeeding a child.

Grrrr.

[PAT303]

You should see how my others sisters are taking it:twisted:.Lucky for the woman they weren't there. Pat

[richard4u2]

My youngest sister was breasting her daughter,my new niece that I haven't seen yet at a day care center at her local pool when the manager asked her to stop as a woman complained about it.She had to go into a store room and sit on a box and feed Mena thier and rightly she wasn't happy.I have to ask,what is wrong with people today?,breastfeeding is the most natural thing there is but people have nothing better to do but complain about it.We are becoming a bunch of dumb wingers that expect handouts when we can't afford the lifes we want and complain about anyone and anything simply because we have the right too. Pat
i find this hard to believe , which pool ?

[dswatts]

I have a theory that those who find it offensive were not breastfed themselves.

Dylan

[KarlB]

I would like to know the nationality of the complainant......

Most of the time you wouldn't even realise a mother is breastfeeding a child.

Grrrr.
I would like to know why the nationality of the complainant is relevant.

[The ho har's]

Pat your sister has right to feed her baby anywhere she likes...

I was a councillor for Nursing Mothers Assoc for many years when my now 26 & 23 yr old were babies, as were both my sisters, we had this problem way back then, however I would have thought things have changed but obviously not:(

Mrs hh:angel:

[Ace]

Got no issues with it. Stacey breast fed marcos in for 6 months in public on many occasions. Its a natural thing.

I find it odd that a female complained about it.

[abaddonxi]

There was a definitive kerfuffle a couple of years ago after an MP was very briefly not allowed to breastfeed in parliament. Turned that one around very quickly.

Four kids and I know way more about breastfeeding and breastfeeding politics than I ever wanted to know.

[Narangga]

Pat what state / territory did it occur in?

[PAT303]

It was at Mingara Rec centre at Berkerly Vale NSW. Pat

[KarlB]

http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lawlink/adb/ll_adb.nsf/vwFiles/BreastfeedingPoster_forweb_large.jpg/$file/BreastfeedingPoster_forweb_large.jpg

[KarlB]

Details can be found here: Breastfeeding discrimination - Anti-Discrimination Board : Lawlink NSW (http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lawlink/adb/ll_adb.nsf/pages/adb_breastfeeding)

Cheers
KarlB
:)

[clubagreenie]

I would like to know why the nationality of the complainant is relevant.

Well lets examine the 45000$$$ that some council is shelling out some the ones who need a towel for more than just drying can swin in private. Yet a mother can't breastfeed. Lets just say if I was there and I heard of it I'd probably be locked up now. :nazilock:

[zuno555]

Just got back on here, but yes, that is what I was getting at.....

Maybe its a long shot, but I suspect 99.9% of normal Aussies of ALL colours and heritages would not have a problem with public breastfeeding. But I sure know who would complain, and that would include people who can not stand to see a bare shoulder in public, let alone breastfeeding....

But, maybe I am way off track and just another racist redneck :)

Either way, the complaint is wrong, as is the actions taken by the management.

[rick130]

Just got back on here, but yes, that is what I was getting at.....

Maybe its a long shot, but I suspect 99.9% of normal Aussies of ALL colours and heritages would not have a problem with public breastfeeding. But I sure know who would complain, and that would include people who can not stand to see a bare shoulder in public, let alone breastfeeding....

But, maybe I am way off track and just another racist redneck :)

Either way, the complaint is wrong, as is the actions taken by the management.

Mate, there are plenty of White, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic 'Good Christian' Aussies that display the attitude of the complainant, I've heard and known them. ;)

Any racial/religious stereotyping in this instance is way off the mark IMO.

[tony66_au]

I have 6 kids aged 18 months to 16 years of age and the whole mob were breast fed discreetly and often in public, We still cop harsh comments, tut tuts and people complaining to management about feeding in public but it has dropped off in the last 5 years since going rural (Well more rural really).


As much as im against the whole law suit mentality id welcome a nice legal bunfight where some idiot gets their arse sued off for being an idiot and complaining about "Public" breast feeding.

Im all for it and have a herd of very healthy strong kids because of this.

Tony

[cal415]

Well i have a 9 month old and a my wife breast feeds her discretly in public very regulary, we have never had anyone say anything about it but i know what my responce would be if they did.... This is rediculous to think that this would happen this day and age....

[Lostkiwi]

I say Name and Shame this pool!!



Breastfeeding is a totally natural thing!!

Unless the said child is like 10 years old:o:mad::wasntme: It does happen!!:eek:

[wrinklearthur]

To all the mums that feed their kids when they are hungry, good on you !
and I hope we continue to have this freedom. Although just remember, luck has to be worked for !

Cheers Arthur

[abaddonxi]

You'd think it was the simplest most obvious thing. We're doing pretty well in Australia, you should go to the US to get really uncomfortable about breastfeeding, it only became law in California in 1997 to allow breastfeeding in public places.

And if you really want to raise to people's issues with breastfeeding, how about breastfeeding kids that're over 12 months old?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi again people - just to clarify, I'm not saying that women should go to feeding facilities. They should be able to do it wherever they need to do it, however if they want some privacy councils, government facilities should have clean non toilet areas for the activity.

Diana

BTW: I share an office with the lactation NAZI's :D :D

[p38arover]

Unless the said child is like 10 years old:o:mad::wasntme: It does happen!!:eek:

Or older. Do you watch Little Britain? :angel:

[Narangga]

It was at Mingara Rec centre at Berkerly Vale NSW. Pat

Surprises me I thought it may have been elsewhere.

Very unfortunate for your sister but just shows how peculiar some people are about natural things concerning a young baby. :(

[isuzurover]

Just got back on here, but yes, that is what I was getting at.....

Maybe its a long shot, but I suspect 99.9% of normal Aussies of ALL colours and heritages would not have a problem with public breastfeeding. But I sure know who would complain, and that would include people who can not stand to see a bare shoulder in public, let alone breastfeeding....

But, maybe I am way off track and just another racist redneck :)

Either way, the complaint is wrong, as is the actions taken by the management.


I think you may be very, very wrong on that one. Many islamic countries have no issue with breastfeeding in public, even though the women may be fully clothed and veiled.

The country that seems to have the biggest hangups is the US. Lots of cases there if you google.

We are (unfortunately) becoming more like the US...

[one_iota]

Hi again people - just to clarify, I'm not saying that women should go to feeding facilities. They should be able to do it wherever they need to do it, however if they want some privacy councils, government facilities should have clean non toilet areas for the activity.

Diana

BTW: I share an office with the lactation NAZI's :D :D

And some women would like somewhere less public to breast feed and to express breast milk...it's about choice.

I know what you mean about Lactation NAZI's... I've just finished working on a public hospital project and the three rooms provided in the new buildings underwent great scrutiny by that mob....:D

[tony66_au]

Sooooo what about your thoughts on a Breast milk bank for Bubs?

[clubagreenie]

Sooooo what about your thoughts on a Breast milk bank for Bubs?

Whats the interest rate?

[George130]

BTW: I share an office with the lactation NAZI's :D :D

Yes that group can be very annoying.
Unfortunatly my wife has net been able to breastfeed any of our kids. The way the hospital carried on you would think we were torturing the bubs.
With our 2nd child it took almost 2 days before they would allow her to use a bottle:eek:.


Oh and the discreat bit was due to the very few mothers who do seem to like to wave them in your face, or as said do star jumps (maybe the bub ponly drinks milk shakes though in which cas sorry) before attaching the bub.

[richard4u2]

why dont everyone email the said centre and see what they have to say

[tony66_au]

Whats the interest rate?

Weeeeell, theres boobies involved so id say the interest would be fairly high...................


Yes that group can be very annoying.
Unfortunatly my wife has net been able to breastfeed any of our kids. The way the hospital carried on you would think we were torturing the bubs.
With our 2nd child it took almost 2 days before they would allow her to use a bottle:eek:.


Oh and the discreat bit was due to the very few mothers who do seem to like to wave them in your face, or as said do star jumps (maybe the bub ponly drinks milk shakes though in which cas sorry) before attaching the bub.

George Ive had to deal with the Tit Nazi's a few times even though all my kids were breast fed and some of them are over the top frothing maniacs....

But, when you hear some new Mums who can feed and wont because of selfishness or similar I can sort of understand why they end up a tad pushy.

Although I've had my fair share of arguments with BFMA they do provide an invaluable service and nag like crap to get new born bubs fed colostrum (Even by mechanical means via the Suk O Tron) if nothing else because it gives our kids the best start possible in so many important area's especially immune system.

And that's why I put up with them with a stern word to go easy on my wife and stop treating me like a second class citizen or I will tell the ward sister to ban them from her bedside.

I reckon we all want the absolute best for our kids and sometimes it means putting up with professionals we don't really agree with.

Tony

[stevo68]

So is farting, No1s and No2s and that other sex thing that most do in private. These are not acceptable in public.

I do not have a problem with breastfeeding in public if it is discrete however some seem to to do it so obvious as to be almost making a political point. I would prefer it not be in public and in a specified place however most do not exist or are unacceptable such as toilets.

I think there needs to be a bit of give an take on both sides - breastfeeding women should be allowed but they need to understand the sensitivities involved for some people and likewise other people need to understand the needs of breast feeding mothers.

GarrySo you equate farting, crapping and sex with feeding a child? You would prefer it to not be in public and that breast feeding women should be aware of other people's sensitivities.

I guess firstly....why in your book should a woman be locked away to feed her child and secondly.....why should they have to cater to a minority of people?

Do you have children Garry? Were they breast fed by their mother? You would obviously fall moreso into the category of this woman who complained as opposed to the majority who quite clearly find it a) normal and b) acceptable.

There was a similar complaint at a Westfield years ago....a woman was breast feeding in the parents room and some womans son complained to his mummy. A slap across the back of the head should have come from mummy right there and then. But no this silly cow complained to a security guard and then to centre management.

It is these people that should be thrown under a bus.....not the woman doing something as simple and natural as feeding a baby. At what point do we as a society say enough is enough of these sort's of things.....i.e. the majority having to pander to offended minorities in all sorts of veils? At what point does it happen that these complaintants are told to pull their heads in and get on with life.

Bit like Eddie Mcguires response to Western Sydney where apparently there was offense as he labelled them a falafel city". When interviewed...his succinct response was that these people need to get a life. Refreshing in the least.

Just because someone complains....doesn't mean they are right...FFS. Many years ago....I worked behind the bar...I was busy doing something......this woman whistled for my attention. I walked up to her and said...' Do you see a ****ing dog behind this bar".......she got offended....how dare I talk to her like that.....I pay your wages etc and demanded my manager. I subsequently explained what had happened.....he called for security and turfed them out :twisted:.

Same should happen with most of these complaintants.....turf them out.....don't like breast feeding...don't look....don't like the program on tv...change channels.....don't like our way of life, bacon on sandwiches, man hole instead of person hole...or blind instead of visually impaired.....get a life, get lost or shut up.

Regards

Stevo

[dullbird]

My feelings are breast feeding should not be allowed on this forum there is nothing worse then concentrating on an out of control debate where i'm trying my best to alienate some one having someone type

"suck" "suck" "suck" in the back ground...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...









:p:D

[zulu Delta 534]

In answer to the original question, "Breastfeeding, What's your take on it?"
I think I can honestly say, I quite enjoyed it at the time, but now I am 67 or so I would really prefer a rum or even a liqueur muscat!
Tastes nicer and the containers don't react so violently when you wash them in scalding water!
Regards
Glen

[CraigE]

Does not worry me in the least. I have no problem with any woman that wants to flash their boobies.:twisted::p
Having said that most are fairly discreet.
I thought it was actually illegal to make someone go and hide in a public area when breastfeeding????
There are probablly a few areas it should be avoided, but all in all should be treated as normal.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I would imagine next to a blast furnace, galvanisers or in a nuclear reactor it would be O.K. to ask a feeding mother to move!

[Ferret]

I would imagine next to a blast furnace, galvanisers or in a nuclear reactor it would be O.K. to ask a feeding mother to move!

I worked on a blast furnace for many years, believe me the issue never arose. :)

[Hoges]

a man on a lass once begat
bouncing triplets named Nat, Matt and Tatt
While fun in the breedin',
t'was hell in the feedin'
For she hadn't a spare tit for Tatt!:eek::wasntme:



on a more serious note, we have several young mothers in our church congregation who regularly feed their bubs during the service. There's never, to my knowledge ever been a comment other than people of all ages vying to nurse said bubs!!!

[drivesafe]

While as posted a number of times, if done discretely there is no problem.

But what constitutes discrete?

I was a member of a community action group about 15 years ago.

We were meeting in one the local council’s board rooms and one of the “ladies” needed to fed her ( about ) 4 year old child.

She simply pulled up her T shirt, turned her chair sideways so the child could stand beside her and proceeded to breast feed the child.

There is the natural act of breast feeding and then there is the farmyard form of breast feeding.

This “lady” just about turned everybody off their lunch, but no one commented. That is until she left.

So again, what constitutes discrete?

[LSD_AUTOMOTIVE]

While as posted a number of times, if done discretely there is no problem.

But what constitutes discrete?

I was a member of a community action group about 15 years ago.

We were meeting in one the local council’s board rooms and one of the “ladies” needed to fed her ( about ) 4 year old child.

She simply pulled up her T shirt, turned her chair sideways so the child could stand beside her and proceeded to breast feed the child.

There is the natural act of breast feeding and then there is the farmyard form of breast feeding.

This “lady” just about turned everybody off their lunch, but no one commented. That is until she left.

So again, what constitutes discrete?


It is society that says there is an age that we should stop breastfeeding...not nature...it is still a natural act. Still excellent for the child. Yes, I wouldn't be comfortable with it but in the wild the young rely on their parents for nourishment until they can leave the nest...at 4 a child is still reliant ;) Heck...most 16 year olds are too.

I think someone mentioned the Little Britain take on things....that's what I'd consider lacking discretion :p

IMHO it stops being discrete when the baby has stopped feeding but everything is still...'out'. But concessions have to be made for those kids that get easily distracted and like to stop and look around...it's not a black and white situation I guess

[drivesafe]

Hi LSD and neither the act of breast feeding or the age of the child was the problem, and I don’t have a problem with breast feeding in public but as I questioned, what constitutes discrete?

It was the animal way this “lady” went about it.

Her actions degraded the other men and women in the room.

[LSD_AUTOMOTIVE]

Hi LSD and neither the act of breast feeding or the age of the child was the problem, and I don’t have a problem with breast feeding in public but as I questioned, what constitutes discrete?

It was the animal way this “lady” went about it.

Her actions degraded the other men and women in the room.

Hi :)
I guess I'm failing to see how? Because she bared her breast? There isn't really another way to go about it... If the child was 4, they're damn heavy...I can't imagine her cradling them in her arms while she went about feeding them.

Maybe you had to be there to understand it? It isn't computing for me what she did wrong...:( It sounds like a complaint of socially unacceptable? she might have gone about it in a way that seemed 'animal' ...but we are animals.

[drivesafe]

...but we are animals.

No LSD, we are not animals.

And considering the makeup of the committee, from a couple of uni students, two council officers and the remainder were local residents, aged from young to aged residents. There was not one single person at that meeting who had a good word for the way this individual behaved.

While you may be happy with farmyard behaviour but those at this meeting were not, so again, what constitutes discrete?

[CraigE]

No LSD, we are not animals.

And considering the makeup of the committee, from a couple of uni students, two council officers and the remainder were local residents, aged from young to aged residents. There was not one single person at that meeting who had a good word for the way this individual behaved.

While you may be happy with farmyard behaviour but those at this meeting were not, so again, what constitutes discrete?

Hey Tim,
I think the issue you had is not so much discretion but modesty. Obviously the lass in question has no modesty.
Its a real contentious issue at time and breastfeeding is absolutely natural and I have no problem with it in public or any other area, but in crowded areas I do think there needs to be a little decorum as not everyone is of the same opinion, morals and level of modesty.
I do think at times there is not thought put into wether it is appropriate in that area or if there is an alternative.

[isuzurover]

No LSD, we are not animals.


Sorry Tim, but biologically we most certainly are:



Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Family: Hominidae
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens
Subspecies: H. s. sapiens

[abaddonxi]

There's a big difference between breastfeeding a baby or toddler, and breastfeeding a four year old.

By the time a child is four, breastfeeding makes up only a part of their diet. The number of meals a day they need is much smaller than than of an infant.

Not discounting health or emotional benefits, breastfeeding for a four year old is a snack or comfort, not the urgent call for sustenance of an infant.

[weeds]

There's a big difference between breastfeeding a baby or toddler, and breastfeeding a four year old.

By the time a child is four, breastfeeding makes up only a part of their diet. The number of meals a day they need is much smaller than than of an infant.

Not discounting health or emotional benefits, breastfeeding for a four year old is a snack or comfort, not the urgent call for sustenance of an infant.

agree

i think the lady drivesafe was referring to could have moved away or delayed

[stevo68]

While as posted a number of times, if done discretely there is no problem.

But what constitutes discrete?

I was a member of a community action group about 15 years ago.

We were meeting in one the local council’s board rooms and one of the “ladies” needed to fed her ( about ) 4 year old child.

She simply pulled up her T shirt, turned her chair sideways so the child could stand beside her and proceeded to breast feed the child.

There is the natural act of breast feeding and then there is the farmyard form of breast feeding.

This “lady” just about turned everybody off their lunch, but no one commented. That is until she left.

So again, what constitutes discrete? Yeah...I think that is a bit out of the norm straight off.......a 4 yr old...WTF. As pointed out....despite that...a child of that age can wait....a bit different to say a newborn. The lady as Craig points out sounds like she lacked a a bit of modesty. Most women....I have found....a pretty discrete....i.e you would hardly know the child was feeding.

Regards

Stevo

[MickS]

Sooooo what about your thoughts on a Breast milk bank for Bubs?


Whats the interest rate?

Better rates than the Sperm Bank :eek:


a 4 yr old...WTF. As pointed out....despite that...a child of that age can wait....

Agree... give it a popper juice and tell it to go play dress ups with the mayor's robes.

[clubagreenie]

Better rates than the Sperm Bank :eek:


Are you saying no one has an interest in our sperm?

<runs off to check mirror>

Your right!

</aspirations>

[LSD_AUTOMOTIVE]

No LSD, we are not animals.

And considering the makeup of the committee, from a couple of uni students, two council officers and the remainder were local residents, aged from young to aged residents. There was not one single person at that meeting who had a good word for the way this individual behaved.

While you may be happy with farmyard behaviour but those at this meeting were not, so again, what constitutes discrete?

I don't mean animals in a derogatory way, just in the basic scientific definition :) humans = animals.

As for me being happy with 'farmyard behaviour' I don't recall saying that. I have enough of a problem with a woman and a one year old that gets distracted and I find myself in a 'where do I look' moment of panic. This happened several times with my own sister and nephew. But that's me not being comfortable with the confrontation of it, not her being indiscrete. Like I said earlier in the thread, I haven't ever seen a woman whip of her shirt and do a few star jumps before feeding or clearing their throat and saying "Just going to feed my baby! Ready? Watching? ok!" as they pick up their baby.

I actually went to school with a girl who was breastfed until she was 5...she was ashamed of it...as a society we don't accept it, it's just a bit...taboo. But I'll bet there are some parts of the world where it is common place to feed a child until 4, India, Africa etc

[Landy Smurf]

maybe the reason the other female complained is because she is trying to wein her kid off and is having a hard time with it.

[loanrangie]

4yo :eek:, that is just disgusting imho. We used to know a family who breast fed their 4yo and the kid just walk and say"mum i want titty" and she would flop it out and let him :o. There are discreet ways to breast feed, its a totally natural occurence thats been done for centuries but i dont want it done in my face not like that slapper Kate Langbroek use to do on the panel just to be a knob.

[KarlB]

Breastfeeding a 4 year old is unusual in modern Australia but not disgusting. It is not unusual in many other parts of the world. The older members of the forum may recall a woman by the name of Junie Morosi who was Principal Private Secretary to Jim Cairns, Minister in the Whitlam Government, reputedly breastfeeding her 9 year old son. Now that is very unusual.

Junie Morosi in 1980
http://www.rennieellis.com.au/gallery/images/rennieellis_540_full.jpg

Cheers
KarlB
:)

[Landy Smurf]

9yr old should be drinking chocolate milk from a cup.

[KarlB]

The 9 year old thing may be urban legend (maybe even promulgated by the Labor Party) but she was certainly known to breastfeed her son when he was 5 at the AME School in Canberra (AME was an alternative school that operated somewhat along the principles of Montessori). Certainly at 4 and 5 years of age, breast milk is not generally a major nutritional source. But breastfeeding is not only about nutrition. It is also about bonding, comfort and mother - child relationship. If breasts were just about feeding, why are so many men fixated on them? And so many women concerned about how they look?

Cheers
KarlB
:)

[p38arover]

all my kids were breast fed and some of them are over the top frothing maniacs....

Well, if that's what happens, there's a good reason for your missus to avoid breast feeding! :p

[drivesafe]

If breasts were just about feeding, why are so many men fixated on them?

Maybe it’s because they are all hungary?

I couldn't suggest what they were hungry for.

Anyway isn’t the 3 Ts a male's natural course of life, Tits, then Tyres then back to Tits again?

[abaddonxi]

The 9 year old thing may be urban legend (maybe even promulgated by the Labor Party) but she was certainly known to breastfeed her son when he was 5 at the AME School in Canberra (AME was an alternative school that operated somewhat along the principles of Montessori). Certainly at 4 and 5 years of age, breast milk is not generally a major nutritional source. But breastfeeding is not only about nutrition. It is also about bonding, comfort and mother - child relationship. If breasts were just about feeding, why are so many men fixated on them? And so many women concerned about how they look?

Cheers
KarlB
:)

Not that uncommon, I know of a couple.

[MickS]

Sooooo what about your thoughts on a Breast milk bank for Bubs?

Already been done...

Information Mothers Milk Bank (http://mothersmilkbank.com.au/home/)

[clubagreenie]

Only becsause we havent't worked out how to make one dispense chocolate and the other steamed for coffee.

[drivesafe]

Only becsause we havent't worked out how to make one dispense chocolate and the other steamed for coffee.

And WHEN it happens, won’t women be a VERY popular and sort after addition to any workplace canteen! :angel:

[blitz]

The 9 year old thing may be urban legend (maybe even promulgated by the Labor Party) but she was certainly known to breastfeed her son when he was 5 at the AME School in Canberra (AME was an alternative school that operated somewhat along the principles of Montessori). Certainly at 4 and 5 years of age, breast milk is not generally a major nutritional source. But breastfeeding is not only about nutrition. It is also about bonding, comfort and mother - child relationship. If breasts were just about feeding, why are so many men fixated on them? And so many women concerned about how they look?

Cheers
KarlB
:)


hahaha Karl your a classic, personally I blame mum - I was obviously never wiened properly - ya just gotta love the natural bonding and nurturing of breast feeding

[KarlB]

hahaha Karl your a classic, personally I blame mum - I was obviously never wiened properly - ya just gotta love the natural bonding and nurturing of breast feeding

I think you've interpreted what I said in a way I didn't intend Blitz. I am not suggesting that adult male fascination for breasts is a consequence of their experience of breastfeeding. What I was simply trying to say earlier is that breasts serve a multitude of rolls and being a source of milk is just one of them. Clearly, breasts have a secondary sexual role. It is interesting that our nearest animal relatives, the great apes essentially don't have breasts as we think of them in humans. Nor do they have large areolae (the pigmented circular areas aread the nipples). It is hypothesised by people such as Desmond Morris (of Naked Ape fame) that this is because the mammary glands in the apes do not play a significant role in attracting a sexual partner. Some of them use very brightly coloured hind parts instead!

Cheers
KarlB
:)

[B92 8NW]

I'm surprised that a woman would still be lactating five years after childbirth, let alone nine.

[clubagreenie]

And WHEN it happens, won’t women be a VERY popular and sort after addition to any workplace canteen! :angel:

Need to install an anderson plug, thermoblock implant and frothing nozzle nipple.:eek:

[KarlB]

I'm surprised that a woman would still be lactating five years after childbirth, let alone nine.

In times past, being a wet nurse was a 'profession' and such woman would continue to lactated for 15-20 years, or more. When a woman is breastfeeding two children of different ages, say a new born and a 2 year old for example, the composition of the milk let down will be different and contain different levels of fat, sugar and antibodies to suit the age of the different children.

[MickS]

YouTube - Breastfeeding...at 8.

Oh dear...better than mango?? :eek:

[KarlB]

Seeing that this thread has gone off on a bit of a tangent, I though some of you may intersted in the use of human breast milk in cooking: 9 Foods Created From Breast Milk (http://hubpages.com/hub/9-Foods-Created-From-Breast-Milk)

Cheers
KarlB
:p

[clubagreenie]

Yeah...

çause there's family that doesn't have issues. And I'm talking before you raise the feeding.

[MickS]

YouTube - Little Britain: Meeting the Parents

[vnx205]

When I read that this had happened at the Mingara Rec centre at Berkerly Vale NSW, I was rather surprised. My impression is that there are a lot of young families there and I half believe the stereotype impression that there are huge numbers of unmarried teenage mothers there. So I would have expected a lot of breast feeding goes on in Berkeley Vale.

I mentioned this thread to my daughter who lives only fifteen minutes or so from there with her husband and their 11 month old daughter. Now I am even more surprised that this happened where it did.

My daughter said that a mothers group that she was part of had one of their get togethers at Mingara. At one stage there were about half a dozen of the mothers all sitting in a row breastfeeding their babies.

Obviously that woman who complained was not there that day or she would have been apoplectic.



And on a lighter note:

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[adm333]

I'm glad I'm not the only who was thinking of the Little Britain sketch where the fully grown adult guy gets breast fed.

[p38arover]

I'm glad I'm not the only who was thinking of the Little Britain sketch where the fully grown adult guy gets breast fed.

At least I was the first to mention it! :D