Importance of tyre rotation

[AussieAub]

Was just browsing on the web, curious to get opinions on tyre rotation on modern cars and 4WD's in particular when I came across this most descriptive article.

A great example of why not to drink before compiling a written piece of work!
Just had to share:
Importance of Car Tyre Rotation (http://vehicle.ezinemark.com/importance-of-car-tyre-rotation-3b4796065bd.html)

:D

Cheers,

[MickS]

That's funny. :) Might have been translated into enGrish from gibberish :lol2:

[Celtoid]

Reads like one of those Nigerian eMail Scams...:D

[Redback]

Funny as


It is important for all cars but generally for front-turn-drive models wherein the front car tyres do a lot of work. In such car models, chairs on all the might counting the braking might, steering brawn, and the major might on the front axles tyres. However, the rear hinge tyres collect solely the braking might. This outcome in greatly nearer carry time of the front tyres, chief to meager treatment and compact toehold.

:eek::beer::Thump:

[ramblingboy42]

cant rotate mine or some will be running backwards

[wrinklearthur]

Hi All

Today I asked at the tyre place, about rotating my five wheels to get the best wear from my tyres on the D1.
The kid, told me "Oh, that's old fashion, we don't do that any more"!
:o:(:mad::censored:

I'm going to do the B******** B******* things myself :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Cheers Arthur

[numpty]

I only change front/rear on the same side. Dont like the idea of them rotating backwards by doing side to side.

Have over 100000 k's on the current tyres with no dramas, so cant be all bad.

[Sully]

If you're going to rotate your tyres, the rule of thumb for a 4x4/AWD is as follows:

Front right and left directly back to rear right and left.
Rear right to front left.
Rear left to front right.

Of course, this gets blown out of the window if your tyres have directional tread. In this case, just swap fronts for back.

[wrinklearthur]

Hi All

The plan for our D1 is;

Spare is same size and tread pattern as the on road tyres therefore.
Spare goes to Front Left,
Front Left to Front Right,
Front Right to Rear Left,
Rear Left to Rear Right,
Rear Right becomes the Spare.

Tyre pressures are adjusted so the rears are 4 PSI greater than front.

The spare ( which had a puncture repaired recently ) then will be checked for balance at another tyre place run by a mate who is a long time professional tyre bloke, definately not by the Kid at the big place in town!

Cheers Arthur

[popemobile]

Hi All

Today I asked at the tyre place, about rotating my five wheels to get the best wear from my tyres on the D1.
The kid, told me "Oh, that's old fashion, we don't do that any more"!
:o:(:mad::censored:

I'm going to do the B******** B******* things myself :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Cheers Arthur


Best way to achieve best wear is to rotate them gently. Keep off the loud pedal, and keep of the stop pedal :)

Sorry, couldnt help myself....

More seriously, Apparently rotating modern radials (particularly large 4x4 ones) in a manner that causes them to change direction of rotation upsets carcass biasing as the tyre ages and settles with use. Apparently this can cause the carcass to delaminate prematurely, usually resulting in tyre bulging or more serious failure.

According to reputed tyre reps etc you should only rotate front to rear not side to side.

Having said this, many ignore this with minimal consequence, and sometimes wear on tyres almost mandates ignoring this. The other thing i have noticed is the biased wear toward the drive edge of each block on an aggressive offroad tyre. If you change the direction of rotation expect accelerated wear till things settle and increased noise due to the blocks worn at an angle and riding on high spots till they wear off.

[d@rk51d3]

Was reading the handbook in dads d2 the other day, and it basically said "don't do it."

........... Unless I read it wrong.

[ATH]

Couple of years ago I wanted a well known national company to rotate my tyres including the spare and gave them a plan of how it should be done. I got the same response from the franchise owner as other have, "We don't do that now"!
I said "How about doing what the customer wants anyway regardless?"
They then kept me waiting as long as possible by always finding other staff/customers/blow ins to talk to and not finish my job!
Never again will they get business from the 8 or so cars in our family.
The best service I've had is from the main stealer in Osborne Park:D
But now they severed ties with LROCWA and won't advertise in the club mag, I may reconsider using them in the future.
And my Puma will come from the Albany dealership not one of theirs!!!!:mad:
AlanH.

[AussieAub]

Was reading the handbook in dads d2 the other day, and it basically said "don't do it."

........... Unless I read it wrong.

No, you probably read it right.
Tyre rotation isn't really required on modern tyres, so I've been told many a time.
It's more a thing for "old folk" who are from the "we always used to do it" brigade :wasntme:, and for tyre shops to have an excuse to charge you some more.

Cheers,

[V8Ian]

I concur with Numpty and Popemobile, rotate front to rear at 20-25,000 k and drive gently. The later saves on fuel, brakes, general wear and stress too.

[AussieAub]

Knew I read it somewhere.
Attched is page 159 (of 215) from the RAVE CD for my D2.
"Owners Handbook - Owner Maintenance - Tyres"
Taken from first Warning note on page 158:


ALWAYS use the same make and type of
radial-ply tyres front and rear. DO NOT use
cross-ply tyres, or interchange tyres from
front to rear.

As with most service items, it obviously says it for a reason...:)

Cheers,

[Tombie]

I haven't rotated tyres on a vehicle in 20 years

[DEFENDERZOOK]

we rotate a lot of tyres on sedans.......
the front left tyre will always wear out fastest on front wheel drive especially.....because of the camber of our roads......
and also from making u-turns...which are always full lock to the right.......
the outer edge will wear out first.......

the front right will also wear out faster than the rears.....but thats pretty much normal i guess......
due to all the weight of the engine, gearbox, diff, etc......on front wheel drives....the front tyres work harder than the rears.....

the rear tyres die of old age......but the fronts have been replaced up to 3 times......

we see quite a bit of this.....

with my old sedan......its a manual and a rear wheel drive......my rear tyres will always wear out faster than the fronts........
especially on wet roads......


with our constant 4 wheel drive land rovers......tyre wear is a bit more even.....
but the fronts do have extra forces on them from braking and cornering......
so the edges will wear faster.......

rotating tyres will make them last a little longer cos you are driving on 5 instead of 4.......

[DEFENDERZOOK]

ps.......thats assuming alignment and pressures are all correct......

[scarry]

Try not rotating the tyres on a van such as a hi ace,or a mitsy,& you will be lucky to get 40k out of the fronts.Rotating them you will get around 70k out of a set.

Ask me how i know,i have a fleet of em.

We always rotate them at 10k,cross the back over,that is left to right,then swap front to rear.Done every service.

[V8Ian]

Knew I read it somewhere.
Attched is page 159 (of 215) from the RAVE CD for my D2.
"Owners Handbook - Owner Maintenance - Tyres"
Taken from first Warning note on page 158:



As with most service items, it obviously says it for a reason...:)

Cheers,
My take on that is don't interchange radial and crossplies front/rear. I believe on a constant 4x4 all tyres should be replaced at the same time using identical tyres, regularly rotated to keep the tyres as identical as possible.

[DiscoMick]

4-Wheel Drive: Cars that are equipped using the 4-wheel plunge practice generally undergo four tyre intersect rotation.

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Anyone know what a 'plunge practice' is - is that diving?

Seriously, as someone said, I thought front left always wore faster on our roads because of turning corners and camber - isn't the opposite true with left-hand drive?

[dullbird]

cant rotate mine or some will be running backwards

yes you can you just rotate front to back not side to side