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bluelightdisco
17th February 2011, 06:22 PM
Hi guys im not sure if this has been posted before but i'll have a go anyway, I am at the crossroads of deciding wether to keep my trusty 2001 D2 auto as it is at 200,000 kms and will need some serious TLC and preventative measure to ensure its longevity, can anyone tell me what are the issues i need to address such as head gaskets, head dowells, turbo's, and any other things that can go wrong on high km engines, i have already done the FPR, the front driveshaft, and the injector loom, i now know the water pump has a slight weep which means the seals are on the way out so add that to the list as well any info is greatly appreciated thanks
Stuart:)

slug_burner
17th February 2011, 06:49 PM
My D2 has a weep from the auto seal into the transfer case. The auto is staring to get a little bit sloppier but this might be the adapter shaft from gearbox to transfer case. Have had the fuel cooler done other than that is is going ok at 185k.

bob10
17th February 2011, 07:28 PM
my 1999 d2 has 322000 on the clock. I have replaced the injector harness, double carden shaft, turbo hoses, plastic water o'flow container, various cooling water hoses, have an issue with transfer case oil leaks[ just top it up ] , engine mounts are soft, need replacing, all in the last 10,000 km's. AND LOVING IT! Bob.[tonguewink]:D

Jeff
17th February 2011, 07:45 PM
My auto and transfer case are leaking. It is a $2 seal and about $1000 of labour to fix it. My Defender did the same. I haven't done a loom yet, is it worth getting a spare?

Jeff

:rocket:

Fluids
17th February 2011, 08:09 PM
I guess you first need to decide what you'd possibly replace it with ... ?

mudder110
17th February 2011, 08:12 PM
hey there we have a 98 defender 110 tdi had a 2000 td5 disco
my advice sell it cause it wont stop i believe the series 2 was made as a cash cow for landrover the main problems are electricle the engine is bullet proof we drove ours all over the gulf to the cape& creb track
wait till the gearbox has to come out thatll break ya heart and ya pocket
i love landies but the build quality is not good so we went back to defender at least i can work on it my self allso with disco2s you need a good mechanic you can trust not a dealer
if the disco is nearing 200000ks replace every single hose under the bonnet mainly the one behind the turbo cheers

trev
17th February 2011, 08:36 PM
Mudder has it, if anything will let you down it`s cooling hoses,check and replace,even then they tend to rub on the chassis and other bits.

Regular inspection and cable ties are your best friends.

I have 225000Ks on my 2001 and the engine still goes beautifully,but I have never had an overheating issue which seems to make all the difference as to whether you will have problems down the track .

Proactive maintenance in heading off issues before they develope is the key to keeping on top of things.

I use mine as a daily driver,but it has done its share of rough track travel as well.

Trev.

bob10
17th February 2011, 08:47 PM
My auto and transfer case are leaking. It is a $2 seal and about $1000 of labour to fix it. My Defender did the same. I haven't done a loom yet, is it worth getting a spare?

Jeff

:rocket:
The loom, apparantly, is a L.R. design fault:eek2: [yes, I know] oil seeps down the loom to the ECU. The independant LR. shop near me has a modified loom , sealed to stop the seeping. So far, so good. They also explained that after many k's, the steel shaft in the transfer case wears an oblong hole in the aluminium case, round seal, oblong hole, leak. they have a transfer case modified with a steel insert , supposedly less wear, no leak. You put the vehicle in, swap cases, put your internals in the new case, internals inspected, worn bits replaced. All good, hopefully. Bob

beefy
17th February 2011, 11:49 PM
342000kms

I have huge kms on mine and I drive mine daily as a sales rep. I have done the clutch and a front diff. Starts first time every time. I think leaving the engine standard and not chipping it is the biggest factor. At this stage I will have 400,000 on mine shorty so I will let you know.

bluelightdisco
18th February 2011, 03:34 PM
I guess you first need to decide what you'd possibly replace it with ... ?

Well thats a good question mate and the answer is........nothing for the money iwould get for the disco nothing else in in my price range so no more 4x4 boring old commodore here i come.

bluelightdisco
18th February 2011, 03:34 PM
I guess you first need to decide what you'd possibly replace it with ... ?

Well thats a good question mate and the answer is........nothing for the money iwould get for the disco nothing else is in my price range so no more 4x4 boring old commodore here i come.:(

Jason789
18th February 2011, 08:57 PM
Hello bluelightdisco,
If you consider that Japanese manufacturers don't think that their cars will exceed roughly 230,000 km without every part possibly needing replacement, it is not worth worrying about the cost of maintenance.
If you truly want low maintenance/replacement cost of parts on a vehicle that is 10 years old or older(every car in this age bracket has 'issues'), then buy a new one and there will be none of these issues.
I believe the the saying goes 'you can't have your cake and eat it too'

Cheers,

Jason :wasntme:

crl
18th February 2011, 11:38 PM
Well thats a good question mate and the answer is........nothing for the money iwould get for the disco nothing else is in my price range so no more 4x4 boring old commodore here i come.:(

Don't even joke about that mate......

bluelightdisco
19th February 2011, 06:28 AM
Don't even joke about that mate......

Yeah i know the prospect of living with a commodore has me searching for somewhere to hang the noose up :p

boger
19th February 2011, 06:48 AM
I would do a Great wall before I would drive a commodore:p

Mick_Marsh
19th February 2011, 06:57 AM
Nothing wrong with Commodores. My VR is coming up to 400,000km, still going strong and has been great.

With the wiring loom on a Td5, Alien just did his. He cleaned it up, put in some sealer and put it back together. There's a tutorial on here somewhere.

Fluids
19th February 2011, 05:31 PM
Well thats a good question mate and the answer is........nothing for the money iwould get for the disco nothing else in in my price range so no more 4x4 boring old commodore here i come.

So why get rid of the D2 ? I've always worked on the basis that it's better to spend some money on what you already know, than to jump ship and potentially buy a can of worms ... the D2 should be happy for another 150k with a little bit of money spent wisley ... and it doesn't need to be spent all at once. Prioritoze the issues and work through them.

About 2 days after we picked up our D2a, my wife & I both asked the question ... _when_ the time comes to replace the D2a, what on earth are we gonna buy to replace it ? :eek:

... it'll probably be so complex I'll have no hope of maintaining it my self.

bluelightdisco
20th February 2011, 10:25 AM
So why get rid of the D2 ? I've always worked on the basis that it's better to spend some money on what you already know, than to jump ship and potentially buy a can of worms ... the D2 should be happy for another 150k with a little bit of money spent wisley ... and it doesn't need to be spent all at once. Prioritoze the issues and work through them.

About 2 days after we picked up our D2a, my wife & I both asked the question ... _when_ the time comes to replace the D2a, what on earth are we gonna buy to replace it ? :eek:

... it'll probably be so complex I'll have no hope of maintaining it my self.

That is very true fluids i spend much of my time thinking (or is it obsessing) about how i can improve the car and what needs replacing soon, it keeps me busy!
once i repair my water pump and take care of my busted bleed screw in the top radiator hose then i think iw ill cancel the ad, its advertised at the moment but not many people seemed very interested when i told them i do all of my own servicing and plus the coolant leak from the pump didnt impress the guy who came to look at it on friday (good timing):p BETTER THE DEVIL YOU KNOW HEY!

Hamish71
22nd February 2011, 08:03 AM
OK.....I bought mine at 150k km, and wanted to keep it for another 150k km. So, I spent some money "refreshing it".

On top of usual service items...in no particular order

Hoses....including the top one of the screw is broken/thread is moving
Radiator flush and clean (every 12 months!)
New turbo/intercooler hoses (silicon best)
Turbo service/rebuild (not as expensive as it sounds)
sump gasket
valve cover gasket
cam inspection port o-ring
fuel cooler o-rings
water pump
Transmission gasket
Test/replace MAF sensor
Fuel pump
Fuel lines
Suspension bushes
inspect exhaust manifold for warp
engine and transmission mounts
inspect/seal injector harness

BIG O
22nd February 2011, 09:53 AM
You did spend some money!!! I went the other way I upgraded my RACQ cover...

Hamish71
22nd February 2011, 10:26 AM
thats the "maintenance list".....
the real money was in the "upgrade".

Im not complaining though. I found a 150k 2003 TD5 that I paid $15k for.
Its now almost as new, with all my mods, and has cost me $10k on top of that.

BIG O
22nd February 2011, 10:52 AM
Well when you consider I've had our 2nd (we have 2) D2 TD5 Auto 170000 kms bought for a D1 TDI 3 door and 12k for about 6 months and have had an oil pump bolt go, and auto cooler hoses go leaving us stuck and requiring expensive tows. We've forked out plenty of money anyway, the oil pump stopped a 3 week holiday from happening.

I only wish I had the cash to prevent it like you have.