Drivers get wise to mobile speed cameras

[MickS]

"Motorists appear to have adapted to the introduction of mobile speed cameras by slowing down, leaving the State Government facing a revenue shortfall from speeding fines of tens of millions of dollars."

Drivers get wise to mobile speed cameras | The Daily Telegraph (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/drivers-wise-to-mobile-cameras/story-fn6bm6am-1226005039885)

I would suggest rather than "adapting", drivers' behaviour was already appropriate. Could it be the NSW Labor government, in attempting this facile solution to lowering the road toll, have attempted to enforce a problem that was never there? On your horse KK..turn off the lights as you leave...we need to conserve power. :toilet:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Too right Mick, the Keneally Gov't was planning on booking about 1 in 17 drivers every year with these devices merely as a revenue initiative, when they should be about getting a real visable Police presence out there.

Real Police who can see what's going on and make a difference. There is nothing like the presence of a marked Police car patrolling to get a whole suburb slowing down.

[p38arover]

Real Police who can see what's going on and make a difference. There is nothing like the presence of a marked Police car patrolling to get a whole suburb slowing down.

I agree. I slow down.

[Pedro]

If they really cared they would have them in black spots not at the bottom of hills or on dual high ways and really punish drink drivers, repeat offenders.

[bob10]

"Motorists appear to have adapted to the introduction of mobile speed cameras by slowing down, leaving the State Government facing a revenue shortfall from speeding fines of tens of millions of dollars."
W.T.F.! Isn't that the whole idea? slowing down, I mean. I would be extremely worried about the health of State budgets if that is a major problem. When governments start selling the assets, it can only mean major budget problems. Anything left to sell?

[d2dave]

W.T.F.! Isn't that the whole idea? slowing down, I mean.

Not here in Vic. All our greed cameras are placed on very safe roads where 10kph over the limit is not dangerous. At least in NSW they put a lot of cameras in black spots and put up a big warning sign.

Dave.

[RobHay]

W.T.F.! Isn't that the whole idea? slowing down, I mean. I would be extremely worried about the health of State budgets if that is a major problem. When governments start selling the assets, it can only mean major budget problems. Anything left to sell?

Yes there is, well at least in Queensland,. Why do you think they have split off the water from the local council and made them into Quandos.

My water bill looks like hitting the $1300 for the year, and my wife and I are generally away from the house for 12 hours of the day.

The idea is to make these water companies very profitable, hence the $1.75 bulk water charge, and then sell them to private concerns.

I know that when they first looked at splitting the water off, a meeting was held at which the subject of water users getting used to water restrictions was discussed and the fact that any quando would be hard pushed to turn a profit....thats when they came up with the bright idea of charging us 15 - 17 cents a litre for usage and......$1-75 bulk water charge...this is the charge for them to buy the cleaned water...not the actual cost... but what they are charging us...so that they make nice profit which then makes it viable for private companies to buy the venture.


GO ANNA ...........ANNA has to go. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[UncleHo]

G'day Rob Hay:)



Quandos :confused: You wouldn't mean QANGO by any chance :D


Covert speed cameras:o you mean those things in parked up 5-10 year old sedans and wagons on the side of the highways,and along the gateway expressway approaches Oh! those speed cameras :D gee, we don't even place our radar/camera signs to face the roadway BEFORE the vehicle but lean it against the front bumper :mad:

Just like disguised police women acting like Pr****** , what is it called Entrapment!

[MickS]

W.T.F.! Isn't that the whole idea? slowing down, I mean. I would be extremely worried about the health of State budgets if that is a major problem. When governments start selling the assets, it can only mean major budget problems. Anything left to sell?

I'm missing your drift mate, sorry...but these MOBILE cams were rushed in, in an attempt to bring in revenue to prop up a broke government. The budget forecast last year, written on the back of a drop in FIXED camera revenue, expected the shortfall to be picked up by the introduction of MOBILE cams. It hasn't happened. So now they think the answer is to throw more mobile cams out there, rather than giving credit to the motorists. Yet this idiot of a premier can find $2mill to give away on valentine's day to pay for wedding certificates...

The bottom line is, there will always be a road toll. The spin that speed is the root cause is bull****. It's fatigue and inexperience.

The safety cams at controlled intersections is what will bring the dollars in, yet they are just as likely to cause accidents due to motorists panicking when they start to change colour. And they have done already. Soon, all red light cams will become safety cams...and it won't be too long before point to point cams will target ALL vehicles. I would urge anyone with an in-car GPS to update constantly the cam locations, as new sites are coming on-line almost daily.

As far as the signs are concerned, yes, the fixed cams have large signs warning as you approach. When the mobile cams turned out last year, there was no such sign, only a sign after the cam saying you have been speed checked. The NRMA and others lobbied the government and now a sign must be placed on approach, albeit nothing like the signs that you see at fixed camera sights.

[marko66]

Hi All

Pedro your only a repeat offender if you get caught too many times :o:):D I have a friend who was told to his face by a weights and measure guy ( scaly ) that he was a serial offender :D:nazilock: Lucky I amnot the bad boy amongst my mates.

And whilst trying to stay on topic I think people should be able to pass an advanced driving course. I have actually been in a car with a young female driver who shut her eyes and took her hands away from the wheel during an:eek: incident :eek: and i took over the wheel from the passenger seat and avoided the accident - I used to think watching it in the movies was bs but it happens in real life and we let these oxymorons on our roads.
Regards Mark

[p38arover]

Hi All
I used to think watching it in the movies was bs but it happens in real life and we let these oxymorons on our roads.
Regards Mark

:confused::confused:

An oxymoron is a figure of speech that combines contradictory terms, e.g., Irregular pattern, Deafening silence, cheap Porsche, military intelligence, happily married, etc.

[abaddonxi]

:confused::confused:

An oxymoron is a figure of speech that combines contradictory terms, e.g., Irregular pattern, Deafening silence, cheap Porsche, military intelligence, happily married, etc.

Happily, happily, hilo!

[MickS]

:confused::confused:

An oxymoron is a figure of speech that combines contradictory terms, e.g., Irregular pattern, Deafening silence, cheap Porsche, military intelligence, happily married, etc.

Pretty ugly, trustworthy politician, criminal justice, reliable landrover.......:angel:

[UncleHo]

Correct Reading Speedometers

[carjunkieanon]

More Oxymorons

Leak-free Landrover

Dickhead Landrover owner

[p38arover]

Pretty ugly, trustworthy politician, criminal justice, reliable landrover.......:angel:

Note, however, that a criminal lawyer is a tautology, not an oxymoron.

[bob10]

[QUOTE=MickS;1434289]I'm missing your drift mate, sorry...but these MOBILE cams were rushed in, in an attempt to bring in revenue to prop up a broke government

MickS, yes, I wasn't that clear in what I wanted to say, I'll put it this way--- Naive people like me who think their politicians are looking after their best interests, when cameras came in, thought it was a good way to get people to slow down,- "road safety". Over the years, it has become obvious it was a cynical exercise to raise money.It is now obvious that this mode of revenue is running dry. they have tried hiding cameras, and various underhand ways to raise money, in what should have been an exercise in" road safety".What concerns me , is that governments seem to have become reliant on this revenue, and to have them crying foul because people are doing the right thing, is a bit much. when revenue dries up in one way , they get it in another, and you can bet our interests will not be taken in account. Bob

[Tombie]

You poor hard done by people. :D

We've had all of these mobile, fixed and intersection(red light, speed) for over a decade.

The red light argument is a tailgating issue and ends soon after installed (doesn't happen often here in SA).

Am I happy with the cameras - no.
Nothing stops offending like a cop in person.

But my last fine was about 10 years ago, and I'm no slouch!!!

[Tombie]

Ultimate oxymoron nowadays:

Common Sense...
(no longer that common)


But I think some above are wrong!

Reliable landrover - I've had 3.

Accurate speedometer - mines to within 1kmh in my Disco, my motorbike and the wifes Bike.

[George130]

Ultimate oxymoron nowadays:

Common Sense...
(no longer that common)


But I think some above are wrong!

Reliable landrover - I've had 3.

Accurate speedometer - mines to within 1kmh in my Disco, my motorbike and the wifes Bike.

My speedo is accurate wo within one week of the Defender:). I use my GPS to tell me the true speed and have got to know the speedo points that are close to the speed.

[Albert]

>The bottom line is, there will always be a road toll. The spin that speed is the root cause is bull****. It's fatigue and inexperience.<
Agreed but also add showing off/attitude, especialy after a few beers and someone to impress.

[ATH]

>The bottom line is, there will always be a road toll. The spin that speed is the root cause is bull****. It's fatigue and inexperience.<
Agreed but also add showing off/attitude, especialy after a few beers and someone to impress.

You can add another couple of major causes of accidents...stupidity and ignorance. Both the same thing I suppose.:D
Alan.

[Ausfree]

Note, however, that a criminal lawyer is a tautology, not an oxymoron. Jeez, mate this is a highbrow Forum, you had me reaching for the dictionary there!!!:o:D

[Stuck]

Funrun ???

[RobHay]

:confused::confused:

An oxymoron is a figure of speech that combines contradictory terms, e.g., Irregular pattern, Deafening silence, cheap Porsche, military intelligence, happily married, etc.
Gooooooooooo...........Ronnniieeeeeee :D

[mools]

In my (limited) experience Aussie drivers are, on the whole, rather speed compliant. I'd actually regularly drive much faster on the freeway but people aren't expecting fast vehicles (nor generally paying attention) so it's a bit dangerous.

If motorists are seen as a revenue stream for the gov. then expect toll charges to become common place, along with the afore mentioned 'average speed' monitoring. After that it'll be above inflation hikes in fixed annual costs and fuel duty which they'll use to generate the income they need.

One thing for sure though - they'll get their money one way or another. I don't know who said it but.....

"only two things in life are certain - death and taxes"