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VladTepes
26th February 2011, 12:23 PM
A lot of this is true but not sure if it all is....



You might enjoy this from Col D. G. Swinford, USMC, Ret and history buff. You would really have to dig deep to get this kind of ringside seat to history:

1. The first German serviceman killed in WW II was killed by the Japanese (China, 1937), the first American serviceman killed was killed by the Russians (Finland 1940); highest ranking American killed was Lt Gen Lesley McNair, killed by the US Army Air Corps. So much for allies.

2. The youngest US serviceman was 12 year old Calvin Graham, USN. He was wounded and given a Dishonorable Discharge for lying about his age. His benefits were later restored by act of Congress.

3. At the time of Pearl Harbor, the top US Navy command was called CINCUS (pronounced 'sink us'), the shoulder patch of the US Army's 45th Infantry division was the Swastika, and Hitler's private train was named 'Amerika.' All three were soon changed for PR purposes.

4. More US servicemen died in the US Army Air Corps than the Marine Corps. While completing the required 30 missions, your chance of being killed was 71%.

5. Generally speaking, there was no such thing as an average fighter pilot. You were either an ace or a target. For instance, Japanese Ace Hiroyoshi Nishizawa shot down over 80 planes. He died while a passenger on a cargo plane.

6. It was a common practice on fighter planes to load every 5th round with a tracer round to aid in aiming. This was a mistake. Tracers had different ballistics so (at long range) if your tracers were hitting the target 80% of your rounds were missing. Worse yet tracers instantly told your enemy he was under fire and from which direction. Worst of all was the practice of loading a string of tracers at the end of the belt to tell you that you were out of ammo. This was definitely not something you wanted to tell the enemy. Units that stopped using tracers saw their success rate nearly double and their loss rate go down.

YOU'VE GOT TO LOVE THIS ONE........

7. When allied armies reached the Rhine, the first thing men did was pee in it. This was pretty universal from the lowest private to Winston Churchill (who made a big show of it) and Gen. Patton (who had himself photographed in the act).

8. German Me-264 bombers were capable of bombing New York City, but they decided it wasn't worth the effort.

9. German submarine U-120 was sunk by a malfunctioning toilet.

10. Among the first 'Germans' captured at Normandy were several Koreans. They had been forced to fight for the Japanese Army until they were captured by the Russians and forced to fight for the Russian Army until they were captured by the Germans and forced to fight for the German Army until they were captured by the US Army.

AND HE SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST....

11. Following a massive naval bombardment, 35,000 United States and Canadian troops stormed ashore at Kiska, in the Aleutian Islands. 21 troops were killed in the assault on the island. It could have been worse if there had been any Japanese on the island.

Jamo
26th February 2011, 02:12 PM
Trace rounds go higher than ball. The 4B1T .50 cal liners have 'not to be fired over the heads of troops' written on them. They probably found out the hard way!:eek:

drivesafe
26th February 2011, 03:22 PM
More US servicemen died in the US Army Air Corps than the Marine Corps. While completing the required 30 missions, your chance of being killed was 71%.

Only the German U-Boat crews had a higher casualty rate.

I know nothing of how the German U-Boat crews were obtained, but US Army Air Force bomber crews were all volunteers.

If a conflict of this magnitude occurred today, could you imagine the youth of today signing up to fight, let alone volunteer for suicide operations!

kenleyfred
26th February 2011, 04:29 PM
In my good old army days we eventually took all the tracer rounds out the LMG belt. When doing Fire and Movement training every time the LMG opened up it started a veld fire and we would all have to stop, make safe and then go stamp out the fire.
Made up a long belt purely of tracer and shot it off at night into the sky. That was trippy. Good fun those days.

clubagreenie
26th February 2011, 04:58 PM
If a conflict of this magnitude occurred today, could you imagine the youth of today signing up to fight, let alone volunteer for suicide operations!

Get all the so called emo's signed up, they'll just kill themselves, Gen Y will kill each other arguing on facebook over who's not going to do it.

UncleHo
26th February 2011, 05:13 PM
G'day Folks :)

You shouldn't have too much of a problem, just sign up all those brave fella's who go out on Sat night's and beat up people outside clubs etc at odds of 15 to 1 and those other brave souls that get their hots from drive-by shootings, surely they would be brave and tough enough to volunteer and join up :wasntme:

I can just see them now,having a heart to heart with a kindly drill Sergeant or WO1 ;)


cheers

Bigbjorn
26th February 2011, 06:29 PM
G'day Folks :)

You shouldn't have too much of a problem, just sign up all those brave fella's who go out on Sat night's and beat up people outside clubs etc at odds of 15 to 1 and those other brave souls that get their hots from drive-by shootings, surely they would be brave and tough enough to volunteer and join up :wasntme:

I can just see them now,having a heart to heart with a kindly drill Sergeant or WO1 ;)


cheers

Or coming back on board full of booze and bad manners giving cheek to a crusher PO:nazilock:

87County
26th February 2011, 07:05 PM
If all the items are like this one ....

"8. German Me-264 bombers were capable of bombing New York City, but they decided it wasn't worth the effort."

as the yanks say ... I call BS ;)

( to be "capable", they would have had to have actually had them wouldn't they ?)

bob10
26th February 2011, 08:19 PM
Only the German U-Boat crews had a higher casualty rate.

I know nothing of how the German U-Boat crews were obtained, but US Army Air Force bomber crews were all volunteers.

If a conflict of this magnitude occurred today, could you imagine the youth of today signing up to fight, let alone volunteer for suicide operations!

Yes, I do.Would you? Bob.

bob10
26th February 2011, 08:27 PM
G'day Folks :)


I can just see them now,having a heart to heart with a kindly drill Sergeant or WO1 ;)


cheers

Hmm! how long have we called them drill sgt's? bit after my time, I think. Bob.

Mick_Marsh
26th February 2011, 08:47 PM
If all the items are like this one ....

"8. German Me-264 bombers were capable of bombing New York City, but they decided it wasn't worth the effort."

as the yanks say ... I call BS ;)

( to be "capable", they would have had to have actually had them wouldn't they ?)
They had three.

87County
26th February 2011, 09:22 PM
They had three.

...3? protoypes... not an operational outfit for which any decision as to deployment or otherwise could have been made

.... & it would have had to be a one-way trip ;)

(insufficient endurance even without any payload)